Srbtiger06

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Josh Pate is one of the best at covering CFB. Pretty wild take especially this early but the man is no dumbass.

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Pate was solid before he got sponsors. He wasn't a bad watch at all back in the day.

After he started getting real money flowing in he became another hot take machine.

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They skipped over 8, which would have been perfect.

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I go back and forth on this but I think this is the way. On one hand I like 12 for the byes because it rewards success but with the committee just chasing vibes each season it doesn't work well. The autobids and shite kind of hurt this too.

If they went with a BCS style ranking maybe I'd like 12 more but without that 8 is probably right.

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1. the club was told in june they were guilty. they then went out and spent 540 million pounds on transfers, including three 100+ million pound transfers. amazing

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Where we getting the 540? Most I'm seeing is 525M euro, which is significantly less in pounds. They also brought in a shite load in sales. Net is roughly 190M.

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2. when you look at 2009-2018 their revenue went up each season through illegal means by over 100million pounds. After the line was drawn at 2018 and the investigation was defined they did not have a significant revenue drop and revenue continued to grow. When they were alledgedly playing by the rules and stopped injecting 100million pounds into their revenue reporting.

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For one this assumes the Etihad deal was only 11M/year those years which is laughably low even by fair market standards. I get that that's what the report says but come on. The Nike deal was reported to be 20M/year towards the end and then they swapped to Puma for 65M/year in 19. Maybe they juiced it after then but the actual reported numbers from non ADUG affiliates went way up and I'd think they'd be more cautious being under the microscope at that point.

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Haaland officially cost 50million pounds, but there are rumors of 200million more in the shadows. is that deal also going to be investigated?

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This is silly. He had a release clause and City met it. Maybe other clubs met it, maybe they exceeded it. At the end of the day as long as the clause was met Haaland could move wherever he wanted. He grew up a City fan, his dad played there, and he was busted posting on City forums. Maybe they paid a shite load of agent fees or signing bonuses but that happens with every single big transfer. Dortmund had a contract that said he could leave for X amount. They were paid X amount.

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ETA BVB rejected 75million from ManU for Haaland and 130million plus a player from CFC but took 50million from MC

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Haaland was never going to fricking United. Ever. That ship sailed in 2001. Chelsea IDK. Again, you can't say "Dortmund rejected it" because it wasn't their choice. If they got the release clause then Haaland could go wherever he wanted. If City got Kane in 21 then maybe Haaland goes to Chelsea in 22.

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I guess it's possible, but it seems like this has become a frequent go-to when someone is struggling or a player/league gets a big PR black eye for doing something dumb.

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It really does seem like a cop out at this point and they never really come to anything.

If there was a thing where athletes were actually being killed or even attacked then sure, I might buy it. CowboyDawg69 on twitter saying "I hope you die" isn't really a threat. These guys need to quit being pussies.

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Again Landry only cares about LSU.

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This is hilarious considering how many people said he was going to frick LSU because he liked ULL and based his transition team in Lafayette.

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So you think all the other clubs were ok with approving the rules because they want to protect Man U and Liverpool?

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They did it because they saw Chelsea and City just invest and win and didn't want fans asking questions of the owners IMO. No different than fans bitching about the Pirates or A's. Clubs are an asset for them.

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Clubs can grow organically. It’s just harder. And MC could have cheated a little less obviously

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Yeah and turn out like Everton, Villa, and Newcastle where they have a little success and then have to turn around and sell your best players to the big clubs to comply with the bullshite rules.

Meanwhile you watch the Glazers rape and pillage the most successful club in the country and saddle them with debt and it's AOK.

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Etihad is considering suing the EPL

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I have no idea why they would but it is odd they're saying Mansour juiced the books but didn't call in Etihad. How did they arrive at these numbers without looking at Etihad's books? CAS looked at them and said they were on the up and up.

I have no doubt there was some shady shite but the numbers they're throwing out seem too absurd to be true...especially without looking at Etihad's (and I'm assuming here ADUG's) books.

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Certainly not Everton.

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Nope but they should be able to do what they want. Why does Everton have to sell players? Forest? Newcastle? Because of FFP. The rules are dogshit and prevent investment. I want Everton to be able to invest and secure their future. Same with every other club in the league that has ambition.

Instead we have clubs qualifying for champions league and having to sell players to comply with the dog shite rules.

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Which club(s) is/are the right club(s)?

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United, arsenal, Liverpool. They're OKed for interest fee loans. United got more COVID relief money than everyone else combined. Liverpool just rolled with Countinho money forever (they did do this and are the biggest club with a gripe against city but still).

The verdict today literally was "city invested beyond their means". We didn't spend more then other clubs. We didn't match fix like Juve. We didn't just buy a team. The ruling just said we invested more than the rules allowed. The rules are shite. We broke them and I fully accept whatever comes our way, but it's a massive dog and pony show.

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I've not heard you complaining about those higher egg prices, though.

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Because some BS happened while Biden what President and it ended shortly after Trump took office. Wasn't necessarily Biden's fault. Trump didn't really do anything there either.

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And those squeezed hardest for diesel have been owners of suburban monsters and owner operators, who often are hit the hardest without a way to pass that increased cost along.

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And those that ship things via diesel powered trucks...which is just about everything.

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I mentioned over the weekend paying $4.15/gal to fill-up. I figure it cost me about $.50 / day more. And I (personally) am willing to pay much more if it helped Bessent's anaconda tighten further.

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True believer. Nothing wrong with your conviction but it is hammering everyone else.

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He got a lot of hate for getting popular so fast.

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He got a lot of hate because he ripped his act from a guy that ripped his act (well I might add) from another guy. He was never funny.

Yeah we're fricked :lol:


In all honesty though, idk how they got here. This apparently started 17 years ago. UEFA lost their case and it wasn't solely due to being time barred if you read the entire decision. Deloitte, a big 4, somehow didn't find it but the premier league did?

Getting to nuts and bolts of it, it's still hard to wrap my mind around. The argument is that Mansour bought the club via Abu Dhabi United. Various interests in UAE bought into the club through sponsorships. These same entities received government grants for tourism. The argument is these grants were solely used to fund City sponsorships.

On one hand it's dodgy at absolute best. On the other hand you can't tell me the entire City deal was only worth 11M from 2011-2018. I'll accept it's probably juiced but 11M/year for shirt/stadium/campus sponsor? Nah.

There's a ton of questionable deals and financing in the PL and there's zero chance this is only a City exclusive deal.

I've said from the start of we're guilty then whatever but be realistic. The rules are absolute horse shite but we agreed to them. That said, a billion fricking pounds after reading the ruling also seems like a stretch.

Idk. Khaldoon and Co. seem confident so we'll see going forward. At this point I'd be fine shooting him and Ferran into the sun just to be done with it.