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re: What was the moment that killed Arkansas football?

Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:49 pm to
Posted by BrohemAlem11
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
14006 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:49 pm to
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The hiring of Chad Morris


Arkansas did more damage to themselves right here than the NCAA did to SMU in 87
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
28437 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:50 pm to
Arkansas didn't want to fire him and that wasn't why he was fired.

He was fired because he was given an opportunity and that Included an amended contract. He was given guidelines to follow and a get out of jail card.

"You're trying to turn me into a monk, I won't do it."

He was fired soon after.

Bert underachieved with the 2014 and 2015 teams.

He would have done better at Arkansas if he got sober, stopped running his mouth and taken his job more seriously.
This post was edited on 9/13/26 at 8:55 pm
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
19191 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:51 pm to
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Firing of Houston Nutt?

Pitrino Motorcycle Wreck?

The hiring of Chad Morris?

I believe it was when Texas and Oklahoma joined the SEC that killed Arkansas recruiting advantage in the States of Texas and Oklahoma. Plus, the state of Arkansas is bordered by other schools from other states that that have an advantage in recruiting over Arkansas. Basically Arkansas got squeezed out from all sides around the other states that border Arkansas.
This post was edited on 9/13/26 at 9:00 pm
Posted by navynuke
Anywhere the fish are biting
Member since Jun 2016
7056 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:52 pm to
Going 0-4 vs Barry Odom
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
30156 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:54 pm to
The same thing that killed me lol..motorcycle wreck.
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
29086 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:57 pm to
quote:

Going 0-4 vs Barry Odom



At least those weren't conference games.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
28437 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 9:00 pm to
This is false.

When Arkansas entered the SEC, they were able to expand it's recruiting territories in states that they that have not recruited in the SWC.

JLS
Bert
Morris
Pittman
Silverfield

This is why.
Posted by navynuke
Anywhere the fish are biting
Member since Jun 2016
7056 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 9:01 pm to
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
19191 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 9:02 pm to
quote:

This is false.

When Arkansas entered the SEC, they were able to expand it's recruiting territories in states that they that have not recruited in the SWC.

JLS
Bert
Morris
Pittman
Silverfield

This is why.

Why Arkansas ended up getting those coaches because no one better wanted to be at a huge disadvantage over other states in recruiting that border Arkansas.
This post was edited on 9/13/26 at 9:09 pm
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
28437 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 9:07 pm to
Arkansas has been at a disadvantage in it's entire existence.

It found a way to overcome that with above average coaching.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
19191 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 9:11 pm to
quote:

Arkansas has been at a disadvantage in it's entire existence.

It found a way to overcome that with above average coaching.

Drinkwitz is a good example. He chose Missouri over Arkansas. Arkansas hasn't had a good HC in a very long time because it isn't an attractive job in football.
This post was edited on 9/13/26 at 9:28 pm
Posted by bigjohnson
Gonzales
Member since Aug 2022
270 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 9:12 pm to
The moment they joined the SEC
Posted by VFL67
Member since Feb 2025
3058 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 9:12 pm to
quote:

Arkansas has been at a disadvantage in it's entire existence.



How is that true? There is no in-state competition, and yall have wealthy alumni boosters. Arkansas is also situated between lots of recruiting hotbeds (Louisiana, West TN, Texas, and MS). I'm not seeing what the disadvantage is?
Posted by TouchdownAlabama
Sweet Home Alabama
Member since Nov 2015
2321 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 9:21 pm to
Posted by HTX Horn
Houston
Member since Jul 2021
1456 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 9:26 pm to
quote:

Leaving SWC.

Honest this (from outside looking in). They’ve just never been the same since they left SWC where they were a feared program.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
54388 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 9:26 pm to
Oklahoma has the worst recruiting situation in my opinion. Texas is pretty big while Louisiana and southeastern recruits are a ways off.

Many SEC schools have a luxury of recruiting not taking away from sitting down with family every night. Not Oklahoma.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
26804 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 9:27 pm to
Playing JFF

Posted by hawgndodge
Member since Jun 2009
5466 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 9:27 pm to
Draw a 4 hour circle around Fayetteville, there is absolutely nothing of note, especially recruiting wise.
Posted by Arbengal
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
3544 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 9:31 pm to
You are dead on the money. It all began when they joined the SEC. That placed them at a recruiting disadvantage. The addition of Texas, Oklahoma, and Missouri was a death blow. They all have more money and better programs than Arkansas. Combine that with one of the worst high school football situations in the south, and you have a recipe for disaster. No one wants to take the coaching job, so it is a constant carousel of subpar candidates. Couple that with inadequate football facilities that would probably take at least $500 million to correct, and no NIL money of significance, and you can’t pull out of the rut you’ve placed yourself in. No matter who you choose as AD or coach, with no high school football feeder and inadequate funds, you have what you are now witnessing. If you do manage to land, the occasional good player, all of the neighboring schools are watching you carefully, and will poach that player for a fee. Most players will jump at the chance to get away from an under performing program. It’s not as bad as it’s gonna get. Just stay tuned.
Posted by Antiwoketiger
Member since Jan 2026
41 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 9:37 pm to
Lou holtz getting fired has to be way up there
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