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re: What may have happened at Texas AM

Posted on 7/24/21 at 1:00 am to
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 1:00 am to
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Ironically this whole thing will probably make us cut a deal with Texas.


I thought of that too. Back to old times it seems.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9342 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 1:02 am to
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Every team for itself. A&M will help nobody but themselves from now on

I keep seeing this and I still have no idea what it means. “Every team for itself” is basically how the SEC has always worked. LSU is still pissed at the conference for how it handled the Hurricane Matthew game with Florida 5 years ago.

I mean this with all sincerity - what does this newfound self-interest mean? If your AD hasn’t been working to further your program’s interests above all others, he hasn’t been doing his job.

ETA: It’s like you guys are so broken from the shite shows that were the SWC and Big 12 that you can’t fathom that the SEC is a conference made up of individual stakeholders and that’s why it’s equitable.

ETA2: It’s also like you guys can’t separate your internal bullshite with Texas via the state government/legislature from the conference’s involvement with the schools. That internal bullshite mattered a hell of a lot more when your entire conference was made up of areas schools.
This post was edited on 7/24/21 at 1:10 am
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21935 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 1:02 am to
Of course it is realistic. It is exactly what Texas did to start the downfall of the B12. Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it

Don't you remember going to the PAC, making a deal for all these teams, and then A&M telling you to pound sand - we weren't going? Or have you forgotten history
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21935 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 1:02 am to
Double post ...
This post was edited on 7/24/21 at 1:03 am
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 1:03 am to
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It's been like that for some time now, it's odd to believe that Aggie has some kind of other level they can bring it to.


Exactly. Aggies try very hard to make everyone forget we were all winning championships while they were wallowing in mediocrity by acting as if this conference wasn’t the pinnacle of CFB before they showed up at our doorstep like a saturated kitten.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 1:04 am to
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I thought of that too. Back to old times it seems.





TEXAS DOESNT RUN shite HERE. Say it with me now.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21935 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 1:05 am to
Naive. You will learn. ESPN runs the conference, and the sips are their favorite team. You are now a slave to ESiPN
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52493 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 1:07 am to
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Naive. You will learn. ESPN runs the conference, and the sips are their favorite team. You are now a slave to ESiPN


Aggies have battered wife syndrome.

If Texas ran as much as you morons insist they do, they'd have had a lot more on field success than they've had.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 7/24/21 at 1:07 am to
I’ve never heard such cry baby shite in my life. I never want to hear about Texas Independence ever again.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21935 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 1:08 am to
They still suck at football. However, they have connections everywhere. They are the richest school in all of CFB, although A&M is closing the gap

The sad thing is if the two schools could work together we could just buy the damned conference
Posted by Texaggie96
Member since Dec 2018
1381 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 1:09 am to
The bill will go nowhere, it's just legislators playing to their base. Hell do they even have a quorum yet? Happened during the past two times expansion/ conference change went down as well. A fart in the wind.

There are only two potential political wildcards that factor into this:

1) Abbot is up for election soon, so he's going to keep his mouth shut unless he wants to go job hunting. He's got zero chance of surviving the primary if he backs deep sixing Tech, Baylor,TCU and A&M. He could maybe survive going against Texas since they mostly vote Democrat, but I don't see that happening so my guess is he keeps his head low and gives a ton of no comments. Besides, he has an electric grid to try to unfrick.

2) the governor of Oklahoma is a Cowboy, but as long as okie lite lands safely And they work it a way to play the bedlam series my guess is it's a good overall move for them. Oklahoma is all but guaranteed an offer if nothing because all the guns are pointed at Texas and there is zero scrutiny on them.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84849 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 1:09 am to
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The sad thing is if the two schools could work together we could just buy the damned conference


After 10 years I’d thought you’d have realized you can’t buy backbone.
This post was edited on 7/24/21 at 1:11 am
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52493 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 1:12 am to
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The sad thing is if the two schools could work together we could just buy the damned conference


Too bad y'all can't buy a championship
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 1:12 am to

I am not saying they are going to steamroll the SEC. shite has changed that’s all.
This post was edited on 7/24/21 at 1:14 am
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
8044 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 1:15 am to
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Of course it is realistic. It is exactly what Texas did to start the downfall of the B12. Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it

Don't you remember going to the PAC, making a deal for all these teams, and then A&M telling you to pound sand - we weren't going? Or have you forgotten history

Where exactly is Texas in the wrong for reaching out to the SEC? Of course I remember the PAC deal.. but this isn’t anything like that deal.

The Texas & Oklahoma Presidents reached out to someone at the SEC.. I assume Sankey. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Texas has no obligation to tell you or anyone else that they are doing that.

From there, I have no idea how the discussions went and with whom they were had.. I also have no idea what protocol Sankey is supposed to follow..

But I do believe that if Sankey was required to notify each of the Presidents about the contact.. then he probably did do that. If he wasn’t required to do so, then you have no beef. I believe any person in that chair would 100% notify whoever they are required to notify.. He isn’t in some 3rd class league.. If discussions truly have been going on for 6 months.. he would be an idiot to not follow the rules and protocol.

Again, what exactly is your beef with Sankey?
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44017 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 1:17 am to
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if Sankey had Tx/Ou discussions with every single President, including A&M, and had no discussions with any AD’s.. what exactly did he do wrong? How exactly did he go behind anyone’s back?

Nothing.
But that’s not what’s being considered.
The question is whether he discussed it with anyone at Texas A&M.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84849 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 1:20 am to
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The question is whether he discussed it with anyone at Texas A&M.


Posted by TideFaninFl
On the space coast
Member since Oct 2017
6633 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 1:20 am to
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They still suck at football. However, they have connections everywhere. They are the richest school in all of CFB,



For all that money, they suck basically as an athletic department. Texas is not even a baseball school anymore.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 1:21 am to
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How man votes do they need to block future expansion? Five right? They get us, OU, Arky eventually in their sphere of influence and then all it takes is one Mississippi team taking a bribe and they can block any future expansion candidate they want. And that is just one potential way for them to use their influence.


You’re already incorrect. It requires 11. Very interesting you’re already preparing to bow down to them, though. Also funny when y’all pretend to understand anything about the dynamics and long standing politics of the SEC. While you’re obviously upset about Texas, what you’re really upset about is finding out just where you actually stand in the hierarchy of the SEC despite a decade of your bloviation. Very publicly, I should add.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84849 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 1:23 am to
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They get us, OU, Arky eventually in their sphere of influence and then all it takes is one Mississippi team taking a bribe and they can block any future expansion candidate they want.


Why don’t y’all just vote the other way under this scenario?
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