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re: What is the Most Mismanaged Football Program in the SEC?

Posted on 8/5/25 at 5:54 pm to
Posted by Jimmyboy
Member since May 2025
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Posted on 8/5/25 at 5:54 pm to
Yeah imagine if UF hired Dan lanning
Posted by SL Xpress
Member since Mar 2023
368 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 5:55 pm to
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However, everything else I would more so call “underachievement” vs. “mismanagement”.


I do not understand the distinction between those terms you seem to.

If underachievement isn't being caused by mismanagement, what is it being caused by? The gods on Mt. Olympus? Do you have a monkey's paw in your pocket you're making wishes through? If so, don't do that. It will grant your wish but in ways that make you regret making the wish in the first place.
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
3159 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 7:42 pm to
Yeah imagine if UF hired Dan lanning

Why bc he can win at Oregon while usc wash ucla are down? Or st and wash st are homeless and calford is in an east coast conference? Imagine if Willie taggert went to fsu
Posted by all4AU
Member since Oct 2009
647 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:08 pm to
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As an outsider, I've never understood how Auburn has managed to be competitive at all.


Auburn has a solid alumni base. The school has support (in terms of crowd and $).

Edit: Auburn is in a good spot geographically. Historically, AU has gotten talent from Georgia and Florida.
This post was edited on 8/5/25 at 8:11 pm
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:15 pm to
Texas 8&4
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
20034 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:42 pm to
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There are several in the discussion; Auburn, Florida, Arkansas and Texas A&M all have strong cases.


Florida: all the advantages. It may be the easiest job for a competent coach to win big.

Texas A&M: I keep thinking it will happen for them, but they seem to find a way to go 8-4

Auburn: no advantages. Amazing history considering how difficult the job is. Still the last 5 years has been mediocre at best.

Arkansas: no advantages. Good support. I guess they could get better, but it’s not a job like Texas, Georgia, LSU, or Florida.
Posted by menu2
Member since Apr 2025
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Posted on 8/5/25 at 10:48 pm to
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Florida had 3 championships in 12 years from 96-2008. Something only Miami, Bama, and Nebraska have accomplished in the last 50 years.
the way you cling to this with the last one coming over 15 years ago despite the fact that Florida will never lose less than 5 games in a season again shows exactly how sad of a state the Florida football fanbase is
Posted by FireDanMullen
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 8/5/25 at 10:55 pm to
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the way you cling to this with the last one coming over 15 years ago despite the fact that Florida will never lose less than 5 games in a season again shows exactly how sad of a state the Florida football fanbase is


Not as sad as you following me around this board like I’m your daddy. And not nearly as sad as claiming to be a blue blood program while having 1 national title in the last 55 years.

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way you cling to this with the last one coming over 15 years ago

Florida has 2 since your last one. They are national titles not 10 wins seasons, they’re rare. That’s what makes them valuable you fricking retard I can’t believe I have to explain that lol. Very few programs have any let alone 3 in a millennial lifetime. You oughta know your team has 1 in your granddaddy’s lifetime lmao
Posted by menu2
Member since Apr 2025
1507 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 10:58 pm to
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FireDanMullen
Didn’t you literally go out of your way to agree that I own you. I literally demanded you to admit it in another thread and you did
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Not as sad as you following me around this board like I’m your daddy. And not nearly as sad as claiming to be a blue blood program while having 1 national title in the last 55 years.
Not sure what’s worse: having less championships than said team claiming to be a blue blood, or having a 0% winning percentage against said team
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Florida has 2 since your last one
And they’ll never lose less than 5 games in a season again. But at least they won a championship when you were 6 years old!
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You oughta know your team has 1 in your granddaddy’s lifetime lmao
Texas has more championships in that man’s lifetime than Florida has in their 100+ year history

Why do yall try to talk when it’s verified that you’re our bitch 49-17

Dance for me puppet. Reply to this thread if you agree Florida will never lose less than 5 games in a year for the rest of your pathetic lifetime:
This post was edited on 8/5/25 at 11:00 pm
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
26522 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 2:01 am to
Have you seen our schedule? Consistently one of top 5 hardest. Not exactly easy.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
20034 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 5:32 am to
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Have you seen our schedule? Consistently one of top 5 hardest. Not exactly easy


Of course it is.

I’m just saying that the flagship school in the most talent rich state should be in a 12 team playoff most of the time.

IF Saban had been at Florida, he might have won 10 NCs.
Posted by Pastor Mike
Florida
Member since Dec 2020
6505 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 6:46 am to
FLOW-RI-DUH hands down. Besides Coach Handsy... they have squandered one of the richest states for recruiting and have hired buffoons who couldn't run a lemonade stand
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
19311 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 7:22 am to
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the fact that Florida will never lose less than 5 games in a season again


Do people here say ridiculous things like this just to get a reaction? Or do they really believe them?
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5220 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 7:31 am to
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Spurrier absolutely dominated CFB for a decade, and did it against some really great FSU and Miami teams.

Uh, no.

Spurrier was 5-8-1 against FSU and 1-1 against Miami. FSU and Miami both won two national titles during Spurrier’s tenure at Florida - while Spurrier just won one.

His neglect for defense and physicality in his early days led to getting run over in embarrassing bowl performances against Notre Dame and Nebraska.

Spurrier dominated the SEC - but not the top tier teams of the era.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
19311 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 7:46 am to
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I’m just saying that the flagship school in the most talent rich state should be in a 12 team playoff most of the time.


And they have to compete against Miami, Florida State, Georgia, Auhurn and Alabama for them. Florida does not have the recruiting advantage some here seem to believe. From 1985 to 2024, 40 years, Florida State won 3 national championships and had 22 10 win or better seasons. During that same time, Miami won 4 national championships and had 15 10 win or better seasons.

No other school has had to compete against that on the recruiting trail.

It is fair to say a Florida school should be in the playoffs most years. Last year Miami just missed. The year before it was Florida State. A Florida school should be in the mix every year, but it won’t automatically be Florida. Florida has stiff competition for recruits from those two instate schools.

Now add in Georgia, Alabama and Auburn. Those three have a combined 11 national championships and 55 10 win or better seasons since 1985.

In forty years, the teams Florida is competing against for recruits won 18 national championships. If you add in Florida’s 3 national championships, that is 21. Over half of the national championships the last 40 years came from teams actively and effectively recruiting Florida. Then add in the smaller schools like FAU, UCF, and occasional raids by teams like Clemson, Ohio State and Oregon and there is more competition for Florida recruits than any other state.

No, Florida doesn’t have the built in recruiting advantage some believe.

If they did, explain why outside of Spurrier and Meyer, a period of 18 years, they were very mid most of the other 80+ years? Outside of those two, Florida has zero claimed national championships and a winning percentage below 60%. They don’t have a built in advantage by simply being in Florida.
Posted by AU6X
Member since Sep 2019
121 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 7:50 am to
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it has to be Auburn. The only program to do less with more is A&M but that is a tradition there.


If this is your metric — doing less with more — Auburn is behind aTm, Gata, and Vawls by a wide margin.

The Big 6 is an objective thing.

Vawls won the SECC/Natty in 98. The number of Vawls appearances in SECC game since then — 0. Auburn has 4 since then, with 2 wins (plus a natty).

Gata last won the SECC/Natty in 2008. Auburn has 2 SECC wins since then + a Natty (and another appearance in the NCG).

Just because aTm has always underperformed doesn’t meant it isn’t still being mismanaged. Its entry into the SEC was its entre to stepping out of UT’s shadows and flourishing. It has flirted with exactly 1 SECCG appearance in 12 years.

Has Auburn been mismanaged in recent years? Yes. The Most? Not even close.
This post was edited on 8/6/25 at 8:07 am
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
19311 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 7:59 am to
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If this is your metric — doing less with more — Auburn is behind aTm, Gata, and Vawls by a wide margin.


According to the chart on the previous page, between 2020-2024 Auburn spent more on football than TAM or Florida. Auburn spent $281 million while TAM and Florida spent $265 million and $221 million. Auburn spent more and got much, much less in return. But you guys did have to pay three coaches.

Tennessee spent slightly more, $283 million, but they have a NY6 bowl win and playoff appearance to show for it.

Auburn spent over $10 million dollars per win.

Auburn had the worst return on investment of any program and it isn’t that close.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
48028 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 8:01 am to
1. A&M
2. Florida
3. Auburn

If we are solely talking about underachieving. It's hard to say if it is totally due to mismanagement, but that is definitely a big part of it. Although UF wasn't the fertile recruiting ground back in the day that it is now, thanks to Mr. Carrier.
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
6161 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 8:09 am to
Plus we haven't spent "frick you" money like A&M has.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
49181 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 8:11 am to
Shut up about A&M you frick'n weirdo
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