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re: What about it Jalen Hurts graduates in December and transfers to Auburn
Posted on 7/21/18 at 1:01 pm to John Milner
Posted on 7/21/18 at 1:01 pm to John Milner
I think he would be outstanding in Gus' O. It appears we are good at the QB position for the foreseeable future though. If he wants to transfer to Auburn, the added depth would be nice.
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Posted on 7/21/18 at 1:02 pm to Irons Puppet
Umm may want to look at what his stats are against top 25 teams. Hell, I will help you. You can expand that to top 50 and they wont get much better. Hurts can't read defenses in the pocket and make accurate reads on plays. They had to dumb him down to half field reads and he still couldn't make those. If he wants any chance in the NFL he will need to change positions.
Posted on 7/21/18 at 1:11 pm to BranchDawg
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DIdnt Auburn already try that Franklin guy? Hurts is basically the same player, not quite as fast though.
Franklin was no where near the passer that Hurts is.
Posted on 7/21/18 at 1:12 pm to oneusairman
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Umm may want to look at what his stats are against top 25 teams. Hell, I will help you. You can expand that to top 50 and they wont get much better. Hurts can't read defenses in the pocket and make accurate reads on plays. They had to dumb him down to half field reads and he still couldn't make those. If he wants any chance in the NFL he will need to change positions.
And everyone is beating their chest over Tuo's stats against Fresno St, CSU, Vandy, Ole Miss, Ark, Tenn and Mercer.
Posted on 7/21/18 at 1:14 pm to John Milner
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More like the qb Auburn had in 2013 whose name escapes me, but that guy was a little better imo.
Nick fricking Marshall. Don’t disrespeck him like that.
Posted on 7/21/18 at 1:20 pm to Irons Puppet
2016 vs. Ranked (AP) 6 games
74/131 56.5% 837 yards 6.4 YPA 6 TDs 4 INTs 119.16 QBR. 139.5 YPG
22% of his passes were behind the LOS. Certainly boosted his completion %.
2017 vs. Ranked (AP) 5 games
52/96 54.2% 678 yards 7.1 YPA 5 TDs 0 INTs 130.69 QBR 135.6 YPG
19% of his passes were behind the LOS. And this is not including the AU, Clemson, and UGA games so his final numbers are actually worst then this.
74/131 56.5% 837 yards 6.4 YPA 6 TDs 4 INTs 119.16 QBR. 139.5 YPG
22% of his passes were behind the LOS. Certainly boosted his completion %.
2017 vs. Ranked (AP) 5 games
52/96 54.2% 678 yards 7.1 YPA 5 TDs 0 INTs 130.69 QBR 135.6 YPG
19% of his passes were behind the LOS. And this is not including the AU, Clemson, and UGA games so his final numbers are actually worst then this.
Posted on 7/21/18 at 1:48 pm to John Milner
It'd be the perfect high-profile example of how effed up that rule is.
Posted on 7/21/18 at 2:19 pm to Irons Puppet
Since when is 165 ypg and 1.2 TD per game against FBS teams impressive?
Posted on 7/21/18 at 2:32 pm to Irons Puppet
quote:Especially when you compare him to Tua who basically had one good game and then his stats boosted by playing late in games Hurts had already made the teams quit. Their numbers were very close except Tua was throwing alot more INTs per attempt.
Don't you love how people distort facts when it doesn't fit their agenda. Hurts has thrown 40 TD pass and only 10 INTs with a 60%+ completions rate and almost 5000 yards. Now the Bama fans want to run him off.
Every guy is always better than the one before.
This post was edited on 7/21/18 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 7/21/18 at 2:41 pm to Rabern57
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ua was throwing alot more INTs per attempt.
Tua threw 2 interceptions the whole entire year you dummy. Goofy comments like that undermine any salient point you may actually make.
By the way, he threw 11 tds, which was one every 7 attempts, and as previously noted, his qb rating was better than Jalen Hurts or Stidham... LINK
This post was edited on 7/21/18 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 7/21/18 at 2:43 pm to John Milner
quote:That's twice as many with alot less attempts than Hurts. That's 1 Int per 30 something attempts. Hurts threw one in 250+ (while being the one play with the pressure all season) . Give him the number of attempt hurts got and the number would be higher.
Tua threw 2 interceptions the whole entire year you dummy.
This post was edited on 7/21/18 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 7/21/18 at 2:48 pm to Rabern57
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That's twice as many with alot less attempts than Hurts. Give him the number of attempt hurts got and the number would be higher.
Hurts threw 2 also I think, but he had a lot more attempts. That is true and your point is valid. Tua did throw a pick six vs UT forcing a throw. It is very true that Tua is more likely to try and force a throw while Jalen will not and is more likely tuck and run and get what he can.
Posted on 7/21/18 at 2:49 pm to viceman
quote:He threw 1 with 250+ attempts and under all the pressure all season. Not garbage time.
Hurts threw 2 also I think, but he had a lot more attempts.
Posted on 7/21/18 at 2:50 pm to Rabern57
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Give him the number of attempt hurts got and the number would be higher.
Good idea. Extrapolate and project his numbers if he threw as many passes as Hurts. That would be about 36 touchdowns and < 7 interceptions. His qb rating would still be better than Hurts or Stidham.
Posted on 7/21/18 at 2:53 pm to Rabern57
The point is Hurts was afraid to take any chances (as in he wouldn’t throw it to receiver unless he was definitely open) while Tua isn’t. If you want to make big plays then you have to take chances.
All these Bama fans thinking Tua should be the favorite for the Heisman and is a future top 10 pick are WAY jumping the gun. Tua very well may never come close to achieving any of that, but so long as he can be a decent passer he’s good.
All these Bama fans thinking Tua should be the favorite for the Heisman and is a future top 10 pick are WAY jumping the gun. Tua very well may never come close to achieving any of that, but so long as he can be a decent passer he’s good.
Posted on 7/21/18 at 2:56 pm to John Milner
quote:QBR is overrated in garbage time most of the year. Now put him under the pressure if he loses he will be blamed and get turned on and his numbers go on down. And throw in those 15 yards sacks and getting about half the yards per carry running as Hurts.
Good idea. Extrapolate and project his numbers if he threw as many passes as Hurts. That would be about 36 touchdowns and < 7 interceptions. His qb rating would still be better than Hurts or Stidham.
You can't pick the good ones and leave out the negatives.
This post was edited on 7/21/18 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 7/21/18 at 3:05 pm to Rabern57
What are you trying to get at here? We saw Hurts play and he’s obviously not a good passer. You didn’t watch every snap Hurts took. You watched a couple of plays and a maybe a game or two, look at his base stats, and you’re making your entire judgement of Hurts based off that.
Tua seems to have the skills and he doesn’t have to be to be great. If you are getting at those Bama fans that are proclaiming Tua as the GOAT QB then I have no problem. But otherwise it seems you and IronPuppet are arguing just the sake of arguing like you guys normally do.
Tua seems to have the skills and he doesn’t have to be to be great. If you are getting at those Bama fans that are proclaiming Tua as the GOAT QB then I have no problem. But otherwise it seems you and IronPuppet are arguing just the sake of arguing like you guys normally do.
Posted on 7/21/18 at 3:05 pm to GlossuRabban
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Has everyone forgotten he was the SEC offensive player of the year? He just needs the right system and coaching.
This is the only reason why he was able to win SECOPOTY he had great coaching, and great players around him.
Posted on 7/21/18 at 3:06 pm to Rabern57
Mine are just numbers. Cold, hard, objective numbers. You're the guy that is exaggerating things like " Tua was throwing alot more INTs per attempt"
Posted on 7/21/18 at 3:06 pm to 1BamaRTR
quote:The problem is they are already deeming him this and not looking at the whole picture of his playing time last year and Hurts. He very well may be good but he could just as likely be worse than Hurts as a starter.
All these Bama fans thinking Tua should be the favorite for the Heisman and is a future top 10 pick are WAY jumping the gun. Tua very well may never come close to achieving any of that, but so long as he can be a decent passer he’s good.
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