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re: Way Too Early 2021 KenPom and T Rank Rankings for SEC Basketball; 5 SEC Teams in Top 25
Posted on 3/17/20 at 6:16 am to GatorsGators
Posted on 3/17/20 at 6:16 am to GatorsGators
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five fairly talented upper-classmen and a lotto pick. That's a pretty nice mix.
But you can only say that in hindsight. These same players that looked good this year looked very pedestrian last year. Again, I'm not saying that Auburn will make the tourney, but I think Pearl is the kind of coach you give the benefit of the doubt to
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 6:18 am to Skyler97
quote:I agree, which is why I'm buying into you guys as an NIT team and not a UGA-level disaster
Pearl is the kind of coach you give the benefit of the doubt to
Posted on 3/17/20 at 7:30 am to GatorsGators
Personally I think we see what Pearl's coaching is really made of next season. It's going to be a ton of 2-year turnover and while they did take a step back this year it wasn't much of one. However, returning 5 seniors and adding a lottery pick in Okoro certainly is better looking than what next year is shaping up to be. Still, a ways to go recruiting wise, who knows where these last few guys end up, but I think Auburn would need more than just Jalen Green to close to remain very relevant.
The big thing is where the leadership will come from with it being such a young team overall. The last 2 years Auburn has been rich with Juniors and Seniors. It appears next year the only Top 100 talent on the team will be a few freshmen and have no seniors as well as maybe only 1 relevant junior returning 0 starters and nobody who averaged 15+ minutes a game this season.
The big thing is where the leadership will come from with it being such a young team overall. The last 2 years Auburn has been rich with Juniors and Seniors. It appears next year the only Top 100 talent on the team will be a few freshmen and have no seniors as well as maybe only 1 relevant junior returning 0 starters and nobody who averaged 15+ minutes a game this season.
This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 7:36 am
Posted on 3/17/20 at 7:36 am to GatorsGators
Lot of those freshmen are internally expected to make strides next year. If Auburn does add Green on top of Cooper, they’ll be in the tournament again.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:48 am to GatorsGators
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is a bad team on paper
Keep trying to convince yourself that, but it won't make it true.
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You guys can convince yourselves that Pearl is above having a rebuilding season after losing his top six players but NIT is most-realistic scenario if we play a basketball season next year.
Yeah, this was supposed to be a rebuilding year too. 99.9% sure you were saying the same stuff last off-season about how we'd be lucky to be an NIT team after losing Harper, Brown, Okeke, and 3 other top contributors
Auburn will be a top 4 team in the league again next year and I don't think we even need Green to do that much. And don't worry, I'll be reminding you of your hot off-season takes this time next year
This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 8:52 am
Posted on 3/17/20 at 9:24 am to BowlJackson
There’s no way in hell Auburn finishes top 4 in the league without the addition of Green. The SEC is about to be much improved next season.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 9:51 am to BowlJackson
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Keep trying to convince yourself that, but it won't make it true.
He's not wrong, please tell me you see a tournament team with this setup form OP:
G Sharife Cooper
G Justin Powell
G Devan Cambridge
F Chris Moore
F Jaylin Williams
That's zero seniors and juniors, 3 freshmen and a pair of sophomores of which neither sophomore was Top 100 type. Add Green which is nice as another 5 star freshman but still will be 3 freshmen and 2 sophomores with maybe zero nice contributing junior or seniors. It's just not a recipe for success next season. With green I'd say they have a shot to make the tournament but it would be a bubble team at best. Again, just seems like there's zero leadership there and just not quite enough (experienced) talent to overcome that.
This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 9:54 am
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:46 am to thunderbird1100
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He's not wrong, please tell me you see a tournament team with this setup form OP:
That can definitely be a tournament team.
I'm sorry you don't know shite about our team, I don't know what else to tell you. I know exactly what we have, and what just a PG like Sharife and a shooter like Powell can add to what we already have. How much have you actually seen of the guys we'll be returning play?
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:47 am to volfan30
Its too early for this shite. When a Kentucky fan says youve gone too far with the basketball talk, that should be a red flag.
Give me my damn baseball!
Give me my damn baseball!
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:49 am to BowlJackson
I can see why people are saying we will struggle next year (we might), but I'd say there's a good shot Pearl has us in good shape again. I'm expecting somewhere between our 2017 and 2018 squads.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 11:04 am to thunderbird1100
Only question I have is why we keep throwing out those five players when they most likely won’t be the ones starting. There are 3 true freshman there. The only ones I feel comfortable with there for sure are Cooper and Williams. Cambridge will probably be one of them but I’m not 100% sold on that.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 11:19 am to Smoke7024
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Only question I have is why we keep throwing out those five players when they most likely won’t be the ones starting.
Bc they don't actually know shite about our roster
Posted on 3/17/20 at 11:27 am to BowlJackson
quote:More like you only know shite about your team.
That can definitely be a tournament team.
I'm sorry you don't know shite about our team, I don't know what else to tell you. I know exactly what we have, and what just a PG like Sharife and a shooter like Powell can add to what we already have. How much have you actually seen of the guys we'll be returning play?
We're aware of Tyrell Williams, Akingbola, and the other freshmen who didn't play this season that you'll be counting on next season.
If you pay attention to college basketball on the macro level and stop zeroing on your Auburn homerism, though, you'll see that teams that have as little experience as Auburn's team next year will have don't do a lot of winning.
This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 11:29 am
Posted on 3/17/20 at 11:49 am to thunderbird1100
quote:Right. And now Bowl is clinging to "WOW you're not including our potential best players that we've never actually really seen play at the college level in that starting five!"
He's not wrong, please tell me you see a tournament team with this setup form OP:
G Sharife Cooper
G Justin Powell
G Devan Cambridge
F Chris Moore
F Jaylin Williams
That's zero seniors and juniors, 3 freshmen and a pair of sophomores of which neither sophomore was Top 100 type. Add Green which is nice as another 5 star freshman but still will be 3 freshmen and 2 sophomores with maybe zero nice contributing junior or seniors. It's just not a recipe for success next season. With green I'd say they have a shot to make the tournament but it would be a bubble team at best. Again, just seems like there's zero leadership there and just not quite enough (experienced) talent to overcome that.
Every fanbase believes that they have the best sixth man. If the projected lineups volfan turns out to be correct, UF is going to have a fricking awesome bench with Tyree Appleby and Anthony Duruji.
A bunch of us here follow SEC basketball religiously and are pretty well-aware of Auburn's roster situation. Akingbola might turn out to be a beast, but Auburn is not finishing Top 4 with as much turnover as this without the rest of the league collectively shitting its pants.
This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 11:54 am
Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:04 pm to BowlJackson
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That can definitely be a tournament team.
Not without green. Are you joking? 3 freshmen (only 1 of which was a top type recruit) and 2 sophomores with no real contributing juniors and no seniors?
You Auburn fans are being delusional, this is absolutely nothing like your last few teams. It's going to be a really really young team and not nearly as talented overall with the experience to back it up.
Green would give you a chance, but it's still a ridiculously young team relying on basically a few talented freshmen to carry the whole load. It's unlikely some freshmen from this year make some huge leap into being better league players just like that, it's not like Auburn really recruited at a super high level the last few years outside of grabbing Okoro and you dont have a single player left on the roster from the 2017 or 2018 classes. All the Top 100 talent besides whatever freshmen you get this year is all gone as is the experience.
I hope you're not expecting players like Cambridge to suddenly be really good players their 2nd year. Surely your freshmen will improve, but nobody really stood out as that guy or guys who could take a massive leap into being a quite good league player in their 2nd season really.
This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:08 pm to thunderbird1100
Well it appears Bowl is expecting Justin Powell to be the next Luke Kennard, so, um...
Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:09 pm to thunderbird1100
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Not without green. Are you joking? 3 freshmen (only 1 of which was a top type recruit) and 2 sophomores with no real contributing juniors and no seniors?
You Auburn fans are being delusional, this is absolutely nothing like your last few teams. It's going to be a really really young team and not nearly as talented overall with the experience to back it up.
Green would give you a chance, but it's still a ridiculously young team relying on basically a few talented freshmen to carry the whole load. It's unlikely some freshmen from this year make some huge leap into being better league players just like that, it's not like Auburn really recruited at a super high level the last few years outside of grabbing Okoro. All the Top 100 talent besides whatever freshmen you get this year is all gone as is the experience.
I hope you're not expecting players like Cambridge to suddenly be really good players their 2nd year. Surely your freshmen will improve, but nobody really stood out as that guy or guys who could take a massive leap into being a quite good league player in their 2nd season really.
Lol Pearl is the best coach in this conference and could easily make the tournament w/o landing Green
Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:10 pm to BowlJackson
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Bc they don't actually know shite about our roster
Your roster isn't some mystery to any SEC basketball fan that pays attention, stop being dumb. None of you can even point out who will take these huge supposed leaps from your team last year to this year, why not? Just hoping for the best?
Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:10 pm to sand mountainDvalues
There's not a shot in hell they make the tournament without Green
Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:13 pm to volfan30
Hoping A&M can overachieve start to finish next year and make a run at an at large bid. 2021/22 though is setting up for us to hopefully really make some noise
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