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re: Way Too Early 2021 KenPom and T Rank Rankings for SEC Basketball; 5 SEC Teams in Top 25

Posted on 3/16/20 at 12:10 pm to
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 12:10 pm to
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How much turnover is Oats going to enact? Based on some of those quotes no one is safe.



Sounds like a lot but obviously we don't really know with the abrupt way the season ended.

Definitely Back : JQ, Herb, Gary, Shackelford, Rojas
Probably Back : Forbes, Petty, Davis
Possibly Gone : Galin, Reese
Probably Gone : K. Lewis
Definitely Gone : Bolden, Hawkins

If we sign Primo that would be 2 incoming freshmen (Primo, Ambrose-Hylton). There are a couple JuCo guys we have been in serious contact with and I'd assume we try and find a big in the transfer portal. JQ, Rojas and Gary were all expected to contribute this year before injuries/NCAA nixed that.

So, we'll see.
This post was edited on 3/16/20 at 12:12 pm
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 12:10 pm to
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I think we'll be top half again, but I can see how this ranking would make sense with the amount of experience and production we're losing.


Just to add more perspective, you have a team bringing in a top 6 class and returning its two best players, one won SEC play of the year and the other would have made 1st or 2nd team without having an injury.

That team is picked fifth

Next year will be special if the teams hold to their projections.
Posted by KellerChrystFan
Member since Sep 2018
9630 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 12:11 pm to
Wrong team.
Posted by auzach91
Marietta, GA
Member since Jan 2009
40254 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 12:12 pm to
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9. AUBURN (64)


ZERO CHANCE

plus well add Jalen Green.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 12:13 pm to
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Yeah Jalen will fall behind KK, Davis and JD quick


Yep, forgot about JD as well. Jalen could be really good in the right line up/team but I think we have some players that just do most things a little bit better than him. He improved his shot a lot from where he was last year but he really has to develop that more if he wants to get serious minutes next year.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 12:14 pm to
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Wrong team.


Huh? What do you mean?
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40949 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 12:15 pm to
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ZERO CHANCE

plus well add Jalen Green.



Everybody will add and subtract. Auburn probably has the most in flux roster right now. As things stand it is probably the worst roster in the league, but I would expect they will be in the top 5-6 of these projections by the summer.
Posted by auzach91
Marietta, GA
Member since Jan 2009
40254 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 12:37 pm to
even without Jalen....ZERO chance Bruce would have a 9th place team.
Posted by mizslu314
Dirty STL
Member since Sep 2013
15972 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 12:41 pm to
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6. MISSOURI (43)
G Xavier Pinson
G Dru Smith
G Javon Pickett
F Mitchell Smith
F Jeremiah Tillmon


I'll take it. Land Josh Christopher and we're top 3
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 1:05 pm to
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2. FLORIDA (15)
G Andrew Nembhard
G Tre Mann
G Noah Locke
F Keyontae Johnson
F Omar Payne


It’s stupid how good Mike White is as a recruiter, especially with Appleby and Duraji being eligible next year.

The problem is... Mike White has to coach the team
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 1:17 pm to
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I'll take it. Land Josh Christopher and we're top 3


Do yall feel good about that? Seems like it has just been all Michigan.
Posted by mizslu314
Dirty STL
Member since Sep 2013
15972 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 1:25 pm to
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Do yall feel good about that? Seems like it has just been all Michigan.


No, not really. especially after this past season. Id say we have a 33% chance. I think Michigan before us. But it never hurts having his closest cousin on our staff.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 1:28 pm to
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No, not really. especially after this past season.


What do you think Martin would have to do to lose his job next year?
Posted by mizslu314
Dirty STL
Member since Sep 2013
15972 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 1:32 pm to
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What do you think Martin would have to do to lose his job next year?
Its a veteran team next year, so with that said, he has to win 18+ games imo. As bad as that sounds,

0-16 fired
17-18 barely holding on 50/50 call
19+ safe

Should be pretty easy to get to 18 wins. we were really unlucky with injuries and still made it 15 wins, so 3 more is very do-able
This post was edited on 3/16/20 at 1:34 pm
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40949 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 1:34 pm to
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even without Jalen....ZERO chance Bruce would have a 9th place team.


Agreed it’s not likely but there is a lot of work to do on the roster. What’s your projection of what the roster will look like?
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 1:42 pm to
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9. AUBURN


KenPom has lost his mind.
Posted by mizslu314
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Member since Sep 2013
15972 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 1:46 pm to
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KenPom has lost his mind.


Nope, his #'s have always penalized teams based off of production coming back, and rated talent coming in. Based on what I see, 1 5* frosh doesn't make up for losing top 6 players.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 1:48 pm to
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Agreed it’s not likely but there is a lot of work to do on the roster.


The same thing was said going into this season. Our FT/3 pt shooting was awful and still finished second in the league. Bruce can see talent and he can damn sure coach it.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 1:53 pm to
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his #'s have always penalized teams based off of production coming back,


he is a fraud. Here is his final ratings. Look who he has at 27 and look who he has behind them. Hell, he has Michigan at 16.

LINK




Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 1:54 pm to
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he is a fraud


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