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re: Was Saban truly better than Bear?

Posted on 5/23/26 at 2:58 am to
Posted by Hussss
Helena, AL
Member since Oct 2016
7807 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 2:58 am to
Bear gave us “pants down” Pat Dye so I’m a little biased.

“Pants down” refers to his pants being found in Lake Martin with his wallet still in it.

Dye gave us Bo Jackson.

I’ve really enjoyed watching a lot of old Bo highlights lately as well as old hunting videos with him and Dye on YouTube.

Bo has really been making the rounds on various podcasts and the stories are flat out incredible. He was in a hitting slump with the Royals and then proceeded to go to the clubhouse to chug a few beers. He got back and jacked a 500+ ft homer and once the manager found out he chugged the beers, he had him a 12pk iced down in the dugout.

Classic
Posted by SlingingSnakeStabler
Member since May 2026
101 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 3:19 am to
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“Pants down” refers to his pants being found in Lake Martin with his wallet still in it.


Pat Dye's pants just entered the conversation.

Posted by Tigahtildeath
Member since Aug 2017
655 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 6:50 am to
Saban got the benefit of feasting on a weak SEC coaching period. Bryant faced the coaches that now have their names on stadiums or in football lore. I think Bryant played a tougher non conference schedule as well.
Posted by Dawgs2122
Member since Dec 2024
2435 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 6:56 am to
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Bryant, on the other hand, did everything in his limited power to integrate as soon as possible at several different schools while facing the powerful forces of history.


I don't know man...he looked angry when Forrest Gump picked up that black girl's notebook and gave it back to her.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91601 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 7:24 am to
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As great as the championship seasons are with Saban, I think back to the ones he didn’t win.
This

When he didn’t win it all at Alabama, it was typically by a frog hair with some pretty unfortunate stuff happening to keep them from the title.

2009 was close as well, as they entered the SECC undefeated and had a 4th quarter lead.
Posted by TTOWN RONMON
Member since Oct 2023
1650 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 8:18 am to
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Or did he enjoy an advantage because of a playoff system not available to Bear.

People point out Saban won more national championships than Bear Bryant. However, Saban was able to get into championship games through the BCS and college playoff.

If Bear has the same system, he probably wins the title in 1978 when he got screwed by the polls and in 1966 when he had his best team ever but was screwed by the polls again.

Sort of like how Jimmy Johnson won more Cups than Jeff Gordon because of the Chase whereas under the old system, Gordon wins two more Cups.

Coaching tree wise, Saban and Bear are probably dead even although Saban's acolytes are just now starting to get caught up to Bear's if you don't include Smart.


You are looking at it UPSIDE DOWN.

You have to insert Saban under Bear Bryant's rules and take away titles he never gets a shot at under those rules.

2011, he never gets another shot at LSU

Then one year we do not go to the SEC title game and get in as a 4 seed and beat Georgia. So, instead of 7 he has 5.

I think they are equal, the game was different, more about TOUGHNESS and being in better shape in those 60s & 70s years. Mano a mano.
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7715 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 8:31 am to
Saban was probably the best recruiter head coach ever in the college game, so that probably made him a bit better all around than Bryant.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
28664 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 8:45 am to
I think most people would consider Saban the best coach in CFB history prob.
This post was edited on 5/23/26 at 8:46 am
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
10897 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 10:27 am to
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Was Saban truly better than Bear?


Absolutely not.

Bear will remain a mythical figure. A man's man. A leader of men.

Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
31100 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 11:37 am to
Two totally different eras.
It's just 100% opinion.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39424 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 11:52 am to
Saban didn't win MNC's by vote only playing against White people while everyone else (USC, Notre Dame, Michigan, etc.) were playing against Black people.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39424 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 11:53 am to
Saban didn't win MNC's by vote only playing against White players while everyone else (USC, Notre Dame, Michigan, etc.) were playing against better Black players.
Posted by bdavids09
Member since Jun 2017
1517 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 11:58 am to
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As great as the championship seasons are with Saban, I think back to the ones he didn’t win.

I still think the 2010 team was one of his most talented teams. Can’t believe that team lost three games.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71171 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 12:24 pm to
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Saban got the benefit of feasting on a weak SEC coaching period. Bryant faced the coaches that now have their names on stadiums or in football lore.


This is fairly revisionist. Saban in his time at LSU and Alabama coached against the likes of Steve Spurrier, Philip Fulmer, and Urban Meyer. Les Miles was also a pretty good foil for him in his early years at Alabama. Gene Chizik and Ed Orgeron also won national championships while Saban was in Tuscaloosa.

From a head coaching perspective, the SEC was pretty weak in the 1970s when Bryant was at the peak of his power.
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