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re: Was Saban truly better than Bear?
Posted on 5/24/26 at 10:58 pm to SlingingSnakeStabler
Posted on 5/24/26 at 10:58 pm to SlingingSnakeStabler
Like it says in your article:
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In his own words, “football coaches are the most optimistic people in the world.” The optimism had run out, and the winningest coach in LSU history was forced out after a season of bitter defeats. Even his staunchest defenders had to admit that it was time. On the other hand, even his staunchest critics could never attack the man’s character. McClendon was a relic of another era, and unsuited for the near professional game that college football was about to become.
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Posted on 5/24/26 at 11:52 pm to prplhze2000
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People point out Saban won more national championships than Bear Bryant. However, Saban was able to get into championship games through the BCS and college playoff.
Not only that, he made it to the title game TWICE without even winning the SEC or his own division, talk about being gifted garbage titles
Posted on 5/24/26 at 11:59 pm to prplhze2000
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Was Saban truly better than Bear?
If you're thinking about strategy, Bear was definitely a better tactician than Saban by a country mile, that doesn't detract from Saban's ability to identify and hire up and coming or prodigal offensive/defensive minds (primarily offensive) to sustain his dynasty but Bryant was truly a master of football strategy, he adopted the wishbone in the 70s after teams like Texas and OU dominated with it and made Bama the arguably best wishbone team of that era pre-SMU, Saban's more psychotic more driven at least in how he projects himself but Bryant was just almost all-knowing, mythical. That's why he should remain the greatest coach ever alongside Saban of course.
Posted on 5/25/26 at 12:02 am to baytiger11
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LSU’s brand, resources, and dedication to football, as it exists today would not be without Saban.
This is true as much as I hate that he betrayed Tiger Nation to restart Bama's monopoly on the sport and that obviously affects my personal opinion of him, he did set the standard of excellence at LSU which hopefully Kiffin will elevate and make LSU the top dog in the SEC
Posted on 5/25/26 at 12:06 am to AUFANATL
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Saban usually won but he also whined and ultimately quit.
to the man's credit, he was also in his early 70s which was longer than Bear lived to be, not many super old arse coaches in the game still
This post was edited on 5/25/26 at 12:14 am
Posted on 5/25/26 at 12:11 am to SlingingSnakeStabler
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Of course, anyone is too honest for a thief and counterfeiter and felon like Cannon was. LSU fricking up coaching hires and firings is nothing new, they've been at it for decades. 'Tis the way of the coonass.
Well we didn't this time with Kiffin, also Bo Rein, totally freak and tragic occurrence fricked everything up
Posted on 5/25/26 at 12:39 am to prplhze2000
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Was Saban truly better than Bear?
Yikes is this even a question?
The only stat that matters is that 100% of Sabans championships were completely legit. While only like half of Bears were. Bear has multiple “championships” where Bama had 1 or 2 losses while other major teams went undefeated. Yet because something like bubbas backyard bbq quarterly named Bama champions, somehow Bama and thus bear claimed the championship.
Absolutely nothing similar can even be suggested about a single one of Sabans.
Saban is legit the GOAT, and it’s not even close.
Posted on 5/25/26 at 3:38 am to SidewalkTiger
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Like it says in your article:
That was one person's opinion on a fan site. He also alluded to the fact that McClendon only had one losing season and was attacked continually for years because of it and cast everything into disarray.
That type of atmosphere can make anyone less effective than they previously had been.
Posted on 5/25/26 at 4:03 am to auburn2eugene
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Yikes is this even a question?
The only stat that matters is that 100% of Sabans championships were completely legit. While only like half of Bears were. Bear has multiple “championships” where Bama had 1 or 2 losses while other major teams went undefeated. Yet because something like bubbas backyard bbq quarterly named Bama champions, somehow Bama and thus bear claimed the championship.
Absolutely nothing similar can even be suggested about a single one of Sabans.
Saban is legit the GOAT, and it’s not even close.
Oh boy, here we go.
Bryant won the championships he won while adhering to the rules of the time that everyone else also abided by. He was a powerful man, but not powerful enough to dictate to the UPI and AP when they were going to and not going to award their beautiful trophies to Alabama.
He had no say in the back and forth and the oscillating of before bowl game presentations and after bowl game presentations they struggled with. He just accepted the trophies and accolades when they were presented to his team.
Bama effected change within the timelines of presentation of these selecting organizations, but that was solely their own business and not Alabama's or Bryant's.
Gene Stallings won a national championship under a Bowl Coalition setup that everyone agreed to at the time. Now that that process is no longer used, is the '92 NC considered invalid?
Since Saban won 3 national championships, at Alabama, under the rules and regulations of the Bowl Champhionship Series, are they void now that a CFP format is currently in use?
auburn posters always seem to have a smell of despair to them, for some reason. Maybe it's just the country hick personality with a veneer of victimhood that offends people.
Posted on 5/25/26 at 12:04 pm to SlingingSnakeStabler
Bear won six legit national championships, not the inflated ones the school claims.
My contention is he probably wins two more under the current system or BCS. He and Ara faced off in the Sugar Bowl for the national championship in 73 but Notre Dame won by a point.
Everyone talks about adapting his offense in this threat but his defenses were a mother. Someone was teaching Bill Oliver and Mickey Andrews defense because they coached for him. Made a living out of converting qbs to dbs and making them All Americans or All Conference
My contention is he probably wins two more under the current system or BCS. He and Ara faced off in the Sugar Bowl for the national championship in 73 but Notre Dame won by a point.
Everyone talks about adapting his offense in this threat but his defenses were a mother. Someone was teaching Bill Oliver and Mickey Andrews defense because they coached for him. Made a living out of converting qbs to dbs and making them All Americans or All Conference
Posted on 5/27/26 at 3:12 pm to captdalton
We sucked in the 70s...not like it was hard. Until Spurrier, we were very bad.
Posted on 5/27/26 at 4:07 pm to auburn2eugene
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The only stat that matters is that 100% of Sabans championships were completely legit. While only like half of Bears were
Would you like to share which of these championships were not legit? I have provided a link to NCAA recognized national champions. They show 6 for Bryant. Is the NCAA wrong?
NCAA Recognized National Champions
Posted on 5/27/26 at 4:12 pm to Gatorbait2008
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Until Spurrier, we were very bad.
Florida fans would disagree with you. Florida’s final AP ranking:
1983: 6th
1984: 3rd
1985: 5th
This post was edited on 5/27/26 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 5/27/26 at 4:20 pm to auburn2eugene
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Bear has multiple “championships” where Bama had 1 or 2 losses while other major teams went undefeated.
There is not one season he had with 2 losses and a national championship
Posted on 5/27/26 at 4:30 pm to jchamil
Bear Bryant’s NCAA recognized national championships.
1961: 11-0
1964: 10-1
1965: 9-1-1
1973: 11-1
1978: 11-1
1979: 12-0
Seasons Alabama did not win the national championship with 1 loss or less.
1962: 10-1
1966: 11-0
1971: 11-1
1974: 11-1
1975: 11-1
1977: 11-1
If anything, Bryant should have a couple more national championships to his credit.
1961: 11-0
1964: 10-1
1965: 9-1-1
1973: 11-1
1978: 11-1
1979: 12-0
Seasons Alabama did not win the national championship with 1 loss or less.
1962: 10-1
1966: 11-0
1971: 11-1
1974: 11-1
1975: 11-1
1977: 11-1
If anything, Bryant should have a couple more national championships to his credit.
Posted on 5/27/26 at 8:50 pm to prplhze2000
Saban also faced a much tougher SEC than Bear
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