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Posted on 5/23/26 at 3:34 pm to prplhze2000
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People bitch about how Bear took advantage of the lack of scholarships limits but the other teams could have done the same thing too. He just plain outrecruited them and would have done so if there were limits.
History, always, always repeats itself. How many rules were passed by the NCAA to prevent Saban from recruiting even better than he did?
People were jealous of Bryant also and tried to stop him and slow him down with different rules and new guidelines at every step of his way at Alabama too, much as they did with Saban.
For one instance, tear-away jerseys were not illegal when Bryant first introduced them to college football but, his success at using them made them illegal.
The 140-player roster limit created by the NCAA was created specifically because of Bryant and his expert ability to recruit players, just as a way to legislate equality and give losers a chance to win.
Bryant pissed off John Vaught so badly with tackle eligible plays that he whined like a ditch-water whore continually to the NCAA and they finally outlawed it just to shut him up so they wouldn't have to hear his crying any longer and smell his horrible breath.
Once Bryant started running players off the sideline into the huddle and then back off again, to give others the play and prevent stealing of signs, the NCAA made it illegal because, hey, why not?
Both men would have literally just made some teams give up football altogether from a sense of desperation of never being able to compete if rules weren't passed to make them more weak, lazy, and ineffectual and more like other coaches.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 4:35 pm to prplhze2000
It is hard to compare greats of different eras
Georgia has Dooley and Smart
Florida has Spurrier and Meyer
LSU has Miles and Ed O
OU had Stoops and Wilkinson
Texas had Royal and Brown
etc
Georgia has Dooley and Smart
Florida has Spurrier and Meyer
LSU has Miles and Ed O
OU had Stoops and Wilkinson
Texas had Royal and Brown
etc
Posted on 5/23/26 at 5:40 pm to Gatorbait2008
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LSU has Miles and Ed O
And also Cholly Mac, who to this day has the most victories of any LSU coach. Unfortunately for McClendon, the admin of LSU hated his guts and eventually ran him off for not "winning enough" even though he won 7 out of 10 games, on average, for an entire 17 year period and produced 20 All-Americans.
After they had basically already fired him during his last 2 seasons, he didn't do so well because, you know, who would?
Due to pressure from the complete moron and walking frickstick idiot Billy Cannon, a person the current LSU fans worship as a literal biblical saint, McClendon was forced out.
Cannon went on a scorched earth campaign against McClendon directed at the Board of Supervisors stating the McClendon could never beat Alabama, who actually could, was too conservative, and was "too honest" to win football games at Louisiana.
Of course, anyone is too honest for a thief and counterfeiter and felon like Cannon was. LSU fricking up coaching hires and firings is nothing new, they've been at it for decades. 'Tis the way of the coonass.
This post was edited on 5/23/26 at 5:42 pm
Posted on 5/23/26 at 5:47 pm to SlingingSnakeStabler
Honestly forgot about him...don't think I have heard that name in a very long time. I think I heard thrm mention it during an LSU game prob. Honestly not sure.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 5:50 pm to SlingingSnakeStabler
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And also Cholly Mac, who to this day has the most victories of any LSU coach. Unfortunately for McClendon, the admin of LSU hated his guts and eventually ran him off for not "winning enough" even though he won 7 out of 10 games, on average, for an entire 17 year period and produced 20 All-Americans.
After they had basically already fired him during his last 2 seasons, he didn't do so well because, you know, who would?
Sure, but he was closer to 57% his last 5 seasons or so.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 5:50 pm to SlingingSnakeStabler
So eloquently written. It left me disappointed only that it was not longer. You should certainly share more of your prose with us.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 5:58 pm to captdalton
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So eloquently written. It left me disappointed only that it was not longer. You should certainly share more of your prose with us.
Thanks, Captdalton. From a dominant force on this board, such as yourself, that means something.
I'm mostly inspired by blind hatred. It works for me.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 6:02 pm to SlingingSnakeStabler
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I'm mostly inspired by blind hatred
That strategy worked out great for Michael Corleone. I have no doubt it will work for you too.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 6:15 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Sure, but he was closer to 57% his last 5 seasons or so.
His last 2 seasons, if you consider a year and a half to be two seasons, were just a dead man walking and going through the motions.
He didn't give a shite any longer after given an ultimatum of sorts with only two options of accepting a payout while resigning early like a loser or coach the final two years of his contract out.
In '79, after losing to Alabama again, they fired him basically mid-season anyway. It was the year 1987 before the ship of fools known as LSU Football even made it to 10 wins again and then immediately fell off levee again and right into the ocean and started drowning all over.
They had mostly sub .500 LSU career win coaches to come in after McClendon, who they just couldn't wait to get rid of. As usual, coonass logic is another phrase for retard logic.
Stovall, Archer, Hallman, and DiNardo were some of the luminaries that came after McClendon.
This post was edited on 5/23/26 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 5/23/26 at 6:24 pm to SlingingSnakeStabler
I wonder when LSU will rehire Dinardo?
Posted on 5/23/26 at 6:29 pm to SlingingSnakeStabler
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His last 2 seasons, if you consider a year and a half to be two seasons, were just a dead man walking and going through the motions.
He didn't give a shite any longer after given an ultimatum of sorts with only two options of accepting a payout while resigning early like a loser or coach the final two years of his contract out.
In '79, after losing to Alabama again, they fired him basically mid-season anyway. It was the year 1987 before the ship of fools known as LSU Football even made it to 10 wins again and then immediately fell off levee again and right into the ocean and started drowning all over.
They had mostly sub .500 LSU career win coaches to come in after McClendon, who they just couldn't wait to get rid of. As usual, coonass logic is another phrase for retard logic.
Okay, let's remove 1978 and 1979 entirely and disregard ties.
1973 - 9-3
1974 - 5-5
1975 - 4-7
1976 - 6-4
1977 - 8-4
His last 5 seasons, removing the final two you brought up, he had a .581 winning percentage. Are you trying to argue that a guy who was winning less than 60% of his games shouldn't have been fired?
Posted on 5/23/26 at 6:36 pm to captdalton
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I wonder when LSU will rehire Dinardo?
It's coming. LSU has revised DiNardo's tenure there into a glorious period of success and building up the bricks to allow success.
DiNardo going 32-24-1 at LSU is the only thing that allowed Saban to have the succes he had at LSU.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 6:37 pm to SidewalkTiger
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His last 5 seasons, removing the final two you brought up, he had a .581 winning percentage. Are you trying to argue that a guy who was winning less than 60% of his games shouldn't have been fired?
For LSU, historically, that was fantasic.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 6:40 pm to SlingingSnakeStabler
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For LSU, historically, that was fantasic.
Paul Dietzel .651
Gaynell Tinsley .507
Bernie Moore .672
Biff Jones .741
Russ Cohen .635
etc, etc
Posted on 5/23/26 at 7:41 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Paul Dietzel .651
Gaynell Tinsley .507
Bernie Moore .672
Biff Jones .741
Russ Cohen .635
Dietzel and Moore were good coaches, not quite as good statistically as McClendon who at 139-59-7 was at 70% winning percentage, 69.2 precisely, over an 18 year stint.
Biff Jones only lasted 3 years. While he had a higer winning percentage than the others discussed, he tenure was so brief they barely had time to calculate his 20-5-6 record.
Russ Cohen, another short timer clocked in at 23-13-1 over 4 years.
Tinsley - 35-34-6 is not worth mentioning.
The 20 years following McClendon's firing, a person fired for not winning enough while having a 70% winning percentage, LSU went 132-103-6 for a whopping win % of 56%.
They fired Cholly Mac for a slightly sub-par last few seasons while having to fight tooth and nail against the admin, Cannon, and the Board of Supervisors, which greatly distracted him, and went the next fricking 20 years sucking air at an even lower win % clip than McClendon's last seasons under assault. This lasted until Saban arrived and finally revived their program.
Billy Cannon, being who he was and not possessing much of an actual brain to think with, imagined that Alabama was still the 1957 and 1958 Bama team that LSU beat when he was a player.
Billy, being a product of Louisiana and not having much power to reason like an adult, imagined that the worst ever period of Alabama's long, illustrious history when LSU managed to beat them in '57 and '58, he honestly thought the 1970's era Bama team was the same team.
He started thinking, hey, why can't LSU beat Bama like they did when I played fuseball and went on a crusade to have McClendon fired because LSU and McClendon couldn't dominate a 70's era Bama team.
Can you imagine someone so mud puddle stupid as that?
On the other hand, he may have had CTE and that is what made him retarded. If true, that's sad and a tragedy for what he was allowed to spearhead at LSU. This post was edited on 5/23/26 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 5/23/26 at 7:59 pm to Tornado Alley
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This doesn't even count the excellent coaches who didn't win it all, such as Mark Richt, Gus Malzahn, Hugh Freeze, Lane Kiffin, Dan Mullen, Josh Heuphel, Bobby Petrino, etc.
“Excellent” lmao
Posted on 5/23/26 at 8:07 pm to SlingingSnakeStabler
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Dietzel and Moore were good coaches, not quite as good statistically as McClendon who at 139-59-7 was at 70% winning percentage, 69.2 precisely, over an 18 year stint.
Sure, but as previously stated. he wasn't winning a ton at the tail end of his LSU tenure. Even when removing the final two years, in which you claim he was sabotaged, he still didn't win 60% of his games over 5 years.
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Biff Jones only lasted 3 years. While he had a higer winning percentage than the others discussed, he tenure was so brief they barely had time to calculate his 20-5-6 record.
Russ Cohen, another short timer clocked in at 23-13-1 over 4 years.
Tinsley - 35-34-6 is not worth mentioning.
You indicated that McClendon's <60% win percentage over the last 5 years of his LSU tenure was "fantastic" historically at LSU. 4 of the 5 coaches who preceded Charlie had a better win percentage than that.
Your argument seems to be that LSU was dumb to fire a guy who was winning roughly 58% of his games. I don't know what to tell you, if that's your belief.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 8:18 pm to SlingingSnakeStabler
Well said. You are the James Joyce of the SEC Rant. Have you noticed that one of your critics has completely missed the inherent truth of your masterpiece? Clearly LSU is not stupid for firing Cholly. No, they are just stupid in general. And as you so eloquently illustrate it is not a recent development.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 8:48 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Sure, but as previously stated. he wasn't winning a ton at the tail end of his LSU tenure. Even when removing the final two years, in which you claim he was sabotaged, he still didn't win 60% of his games over 5 years.
First of all, you are incorrect in your calculations.
Excluding the last two seasons of his LSU tenure, McClendon won 61% of his games at 34-21-2 over the 5 year stretch from '73-'77.
Another 5 year period that does include his last 2 seasons, '75-'79, he still won 61% of his games even when fired midway through '79 at 33-21-1.
The campaign against him lasted longer than 2 years, btw. He was finally informed that he only had 2 years left in '78, but they wished he would just take the money and leave.
The harassment and interference started in '74, when he had a bad season at 5-5-1. The motherfrickers had no loyalty to a great coach.
Every year was a hot seat, no matter how much he had won or how many opponents he had destroyed in many different prestigious bowl games once the movement to get rid of him started.
Amazingly, even after they sabotaged him at every step during his last five seasons, he still had a higher winning percentage during just those last 5 horrible seasons being pressured and pulled and pressed, than did the next line of coaches did for the following 20 years combined.
All coaches combined after him, from 1980-2000, until Saban's arrival, only managed a win percentage of a total 56%, even though Arnsparger personally checked in at 75% after a very short 3 seasons.
This post was edited on 5/23/26 at 8:59 pm
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