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re: Vote to keep 8 game schedule was 13-1
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:40 pm to BamaGradinTn
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:40 pm to BamaGradinTn
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This is a really stupid excuse for playing a second FCS team, when the fact is that lots of BCS non-AQ teams were playing out of conference that weekend.
Seriously...this is the best excuse you guys can come up with?
It's the same bs excuse Florida State used to play 2 FCS teams last year as well.
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Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:41 pm to USMC Gators
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Why are you only singling out Saban for this?
because he publicly said the SEC should move to 9-games to improve SOS
eta: I'm not calling Saban out for his scheduling practices. He's not doing anything anyone else isn't. I think they are all lame about it. My issue is he's being a hypocrite on this issue and bama fans have bought into it hook line and sinker
This post was edited on 5/29/13 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:43 pm to BamaGradinTn
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This is a really stupid excuse for playing a second FCS team, when the fact is that lots of BCS non-AQ teams were playing out of conference that weekend. Seriously...this is the best excuse you guys can come up with?
You do realize there are these things called contracts that have to be worked out long in advance don't you? You can't just snap your fingers less than 6 months before the season starts and get the teams you want on the dates you have open. You have to plan it out. And guess what? Bama is the one who planned to play Chattanooga and Georgia State. Saban even gets a say in those games. He can't bitch about BS games when he isn't fighting to stop them at his own school.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:44 pm to Dr RC
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Dr RC
Vote to keep 8 game schedule was 13-1
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Oh really? Go back and look at everyone's schedules for Nov. 17 last year. Every single SEC team was playing either another SEC team or an FCS team, except Missouri, which was finishing a home and home commitment with Syracuse. Seven SEC teams played FCS teams on that day because there was literally no one else to play. Other conferences were playing in-conference games. The SEC should have been also.
What kind of bs half truth is this shite? You know damn well the only reason those all happened around the same time is every SEC school likes to have a late season breather. There is nothing forcing any school to play an OOC game so late in the year.
Every other conference gets most of their OOC out of the way early unless it's a rivalry game. Get outta here with that lame arse logic. The only justifiable excuse for getting stuck with shite teams is b/c somebody canceled on you or b/c you join a new conference with a team that was one of your OOC games.
Otherwise NOTHING forces you to schedule an FCS team that late in the year. SEC schools do it because THEY WANT TO, not because they have to.
Now you're just being a dumbass. You really think out of conference scheduling is done unilaterally? That the SEC can dictate when the other conferences will play OOC games?
Do yourself a favor...grow a few brain cells and the come back to the discussion.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:45 pm to Dr RC
quote:I guess the folks in Alabama still conduct business with a little spit and a handshake?
You can't just snap your fingers less than 6 months before the season starts and get the teams you want on the dates you have open.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:45 pm to Dr RC
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Dr RC
Vote to keep 8 game schedule was 13-1
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This is a really stupid excuse for playing a second FCS team, when the fact is that lots of BCS non-AQ teams were playing out of conference that weekend. Seriously...this is the best excuse you guys can come up with?
You do realize there are these things called contracts that have to be worked out long in advance don't you?
And you do realize that those contracts are bought out all the time, don't you?
edit... a couple of examples in the last few years...UT-UNC, Ole Miss- Boise.
This post was edited on 5/29/13 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:46 pm to tmc94
Why would we drop the easier OOC games when no one else is doing it? That's part of why Saban wants the 9 game slate. It's uniformity for all schools. He's publicly stated that he wants 9 SEC games, one premier OOC game, and 2 games against other teams in the big 5 conferences. But he can't make that happen by himself. He's already taken care of the one premier OOC game, he's pushing hard for the 9 games, but the other OOC games being only against the big 5 conferences will take a big national movement to accomplish. In the interim, why would we kill ourselves if no one else is willing to?
It would be beyond stupid to be the only school in the league making it that hard on ourselves. What Saban wants is for the rest of y'all to nut up and we'll all have to play a legitimate schedule. Call him a hypocrite all you want, but at least he's pushing for change.
It would be beyond stupid to be the only school in the league making it that hard on ourselves. What Saban wants is for the rest of y'all to nut up and we'll all have to play a legitimate schedule. Call him a hypocrite all you want, but at least he's pushing for change.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:51 pm to Dr RC
Definitely think 9 would be better, but any line of thinking that NS is looking out for the conference is BS, it's all about BAMA, which it should be , but don't make him out to be a saint, he's CYA. When has BAMA gone on the road to play OOC BCS team, other than 1 trip to happy valley, since he got there? Usually it's a neutral site game. Not that it's not smart mind you, but it is a little bit easier scheduling wise and to say sure add another conf game, when you don't have to worry about a mandatory home and home OOC rivalry game.
This post was edited on 5/29/13 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:52 pm to 3rddownonthe8
Going to Michigan State and to Georgia Tech in coming years.
And besides that, a neutral site game is still a lost home game. In fact, when we play neutral site games 3 or 4 years in a row, like we are right now, it's actually guaranteeing the loss of a home game. With a home and home, you only lose that game every other year.
And besides that, a neutral site game is still a lost home game. In fact, when we play neutral site games 3 or 4 years in a row, like we are right now, it's actually guaranteeing the loss of a home game. With a home and home, you only lose that game every other year.
This post was edited on 5/29/13 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:54 pm to FortWorthTide
Y'all should just never leave the state for ooc like all the cool kids do. 
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:55 pm to tmc94
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because he publicly said the SEC should move to 9-games to improve SOS
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My issue is he's being a hypocrite on this issue
Saban had the opportunity to schedule a 9th SEC team in the past and didn't?
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:56 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Now you're just being a dumbass. You really think out of conference scheduling is done unilaterally? That the SEC can dictate when the other conferences will play OOC games? Do yourself a favor...grow a few brain cells and the come back to the discussion.
what the hell are you even talking about?
I never even said that.
The facts are most other schools in other conferences get their OOC out of the way early in the year. The few that don't are usually playing long term rivalry games.
There is nothing that forces the average SEC school to play those late season games against lesser teams. NOTHING. So to say "Oh hey Nov 17 sucked last year b/c everyone decided to use it for their FCS games" is a completely worthless point.
Before we got to the SEC I can't even remember the last time A&M played a regular season OCC past early October. If I had to take a guess it would be Louisville in the early 90s when we were still in the SWC.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 3:57 pm to Dr RC
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Dr RC
Vote to keep 8 game schedule was 13-1
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You can't just snap your fingers less than 6 months before the season starts
Refresh my memory...when was it officially announced that Texas A&M would join the SEC? September, 2011, if I recall. That's right...a full year before that showdown with the vaunted Bulldogs from Orangeburg, SC.
Snap your fingers less than 6 months before? Please stop. You're embarassing yourself.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 4:00 pm to BamaGradinTn
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And you do realize that those contracts are bought out all the time, don't you?
edit... a couple of examples in the last few years...UT-UNC, Ole Miss- Boise.
And do you realize that we tried to get something done but couldn't?
We had to buy out our original (and only) FCS game with McNeese State on Sept 1 just to get an away game in Shreveport with La Tech. There just were no schools willing or able to work with us last year with the dates we had open.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 4:01 pm to Dr RC
9th conference game does nothing for anybody. And Saban knows it.
It doesn't improve SOS.
It doesn't improve TV programming.
It doesn't improve OOC scheduling (ie. cupcakes).
The only thing it does is rotate the conference through quicker on an annual basis.
And that has NEVER been the point of the SEC before.
And if it was the point, why in the heck are we adding teams making it harder to rotate schools through the schedule? Why is there still talk about adding 2 more schools?
The 9th game won't happen unless there is an expansion.
It doesn't improve SOS.
It doesn't improve TV programming.
It doesn't improve OOC scheduling (ie. cupcakes).
The only thing it does is rotate the conference through quicker on an annual basis.
And that has NEVER been the point of the SEC before.
And if it was the point, why in the heck are we adding teams making it harder to rotate schools through the schedule? Why is there still talk about adding 2 more schools?
The 9th game won't happen unless there is an expansion.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 4:06 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Refresh my memory...when was it officially announced that Texas A&M would join the SEC? September, 2011, if I recall. That's right...a full year before that showdown with the vaunted Bulldogs from Orangeburg, SC.
Snap your fingers less than 6 months before? Please stop. You're embarassing yourself.
yea except for the SEC schedules were not announced until December 28th. So we did not even know when our open dates were until basically January. So fine, we had 8 months if you think any other school would be willing to negotiate up until the season started on August 30.
Even after getting Arkansas and Jerry to let us move out of Cowboys Stadium for two years we only had 6 home games. Its not like we wanted to play two FCS games. We simply did not have the time to negotiate with better schools b/c most of them were already lined up elsewhere and b/c the entire Big 12 refused to schedule with us even though they would have been the easiest to work date wise.
This post was edited on 5/29/13 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 5/29/13 at 4:06 pm to volfan30
Yeah, and Spurrier will the first one to whine when in 2014 he's left out of the play offs due to strength of schedule. Coach Saban knows that when the play offs start, it may not matter if you're undefeated. It will depend a lot on the schedule, and you know people are only wanting to keep the SEC out of the championship game, and we may have just helped them do that.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 4:07 pm to bama my heart
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and you know people are only wanting to keep the SEC out of the championship game, and we may have just helped them do that.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 4:08 pm to meansonny
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9th conference game does nothing for anybody. And Saban knows it.
It doesn't improve SOS.
It doesn't improve TV programming.
It doesn't improve OOC scheduling (ie. cupcakes).
The only thing it does is rotate the conference through quicker on an annual basis.
And that has NEVER been the point of the SEC before.
And if it was the point, why in the heck are we adding teams making it harder to rotate schools through the schedule? Why is there still talk about adding 2 more schools?
The 9th game won't happen unless there is an expansion.
It does improve SOS. The computers prove that.
It does improve TV, because Alabama will see UGA, USCe, UF more (and vice versa).
It would remove one cupcake from the schedule. The model would be one good game and two cupcakes/lower tier BCS teams (unless your coach is a pansy).
Expansion is extremely unlikely now. 9 games is happening within 3-4 years regardless. The SEC Network will be a big part of that, but it is coming.
This post was edited on 5/29/13 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 5/29/13 at 4:09 pm to meansonny
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It doesn't improve SOS.
It doesn't improve TV programming.
It doesn't improve OOC scheduling (ie. cupcakes).
Actually it improves all three.
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