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re: Vote to keep 8 game schedule was 13-1
Posted on 5/29/13 at 4:42 pm to BamaGradinTn
Posted on 5/29/13 at 4:42 pm to BamaGradinTn
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he point is that we shouldn't be playing FCS teams at all...early, late, whenever. Whether it's the SEC because they save an OOC game for late in the year, or because teams like aTm pre-SEC wanted to play them just for the sake of playing them, it makes no difference. Most SEC fans seem to like playing conference games as early as we do. Playing a 9th game, especially if it's the next to last game of the year, will help eliminate the FCS games.
Why does anyone care about how good (or bad) the worst team on a schedule is?
Shouldn't the focus be on the other 11 games? Or 10 games at the least?
I'll never understand why schools pick on eachother because they are giving a payday to another school.
Who cares?
If we're going to measure dicks, then start with the biggest games on the schedule and go from there.
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Posted on 5/29/13 at 4:43 pm to volfan30
There is no reason to go to a 9 game schedule when the SEC is already the most dominant in college football when considering strength of schedule. It would help, but only because it could not hurt. As it stands, an 8 game SEC schedule is harder than a 9 game schedule in any other conference.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 4:48 pm to meansonny
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meansonny
Vote to keep 8 game schedule was 13-1
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What's ignorant is to say that Florida plays Miami "regularly". This year will be the second time in the last ten years.
That's a selective sample size.
It's the most recent sample size. Nor is Miami on the schedule for either 2014, 2015, or 2016. Son now that will be only twice in 13 years. Even using your own time frame, that becomes 6 in 17 years. Hardly qualifies as "regularly".
Posted on 5/29/13 at 4:48 pm to Chizzin ain't Easy
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There is no reason to go to a 9 game schedule when the SEC is already the most dominant in college football when considering strength of schedule. It would help, but only because it could not hurt. As it stands, an 8 game SEC schedule is harder than a 9 game schedule in any other conference.
It hurts in the sense that it may add a crappy team as the 9th game (ie. Auburn 2012 or kentucky 2012) to the schedule. Does that help the SOS? Absolutely not.
It also hurts in the sense that it encourages more rematches in the SECCG.
If a team wins in the regular season and wins again in the SECCG, then they actually hurt their strength of schedule with the win. That was one of the factors that cost Auburn in 2004 (beating Tennessee twice who was their best win on the season).
Posted on 5/29/13 at 4:48 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Playing a 9th game, especially if it's the next to last game of the year, will help eliminate the FCS games.
It absolutely would NOT help eliminate FCS games.
It will simply kill games against mid majors and make it harder to set up games against power BCS teams.
The only thing that would stop SEC schools (this goes for all conferences BTW) from playing FCS schools would be a conference mandate against them like the Big Ten claims will happen in the next few years.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 4:50 pm to BamaGradinTn
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The point is that we shouldn't be playing FCS teams at all...early, late, whenever.
seems if that was the point, then someone would introduce a proposal to outlaw FCS games like the B1G just did
I agree though and wish that had been the proposal rather than the 9 game slate. I hate those games.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 4:51 pm to meansonny
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meansonny
If we're going to measure dicks, then start with the biggest games on the schedule and go from there.
Sounds pretty good to me. Clemson, VT, Penn State, Michigan, Michigan State...makes our dick bigger than most.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 4:51 pm to tmc94
FWIW, I don't hate the FCS games because I follow recruiting. And those games are a great opportunity to see what we've got with the new recruits.
But I still stand by my statement that I don't understand why teams focus on that 12th worse game when the top 6 or top 8 games are the only ones that matter (hopefully one or two of those 8 games are OOC).
But I still stand by my statement that I don't understand why teams focus on that 12th worse game when the top 6 or top 8 games are the only ones that matter (hopefully one or two of those 8 games are OOC).
Posted on 5/29/13 at 4:53 pm to BamaGradinTn
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I'll ignore, for the moment, the sheer irony of a Gator fan jumping into a discussion about OOC games. Get back to us when you actually leave the state for one.
Are you not playing Georgia State and Chattanooga next year? Sort of ridiculous to be pointing out A&M's schedule don't you think considering what you have going on.
And as the UGA fan pointed out we play FSU and Miami next year, and while the Miami game may not be regularly played it is still a 2nd BCS opponent we play fairly consistently. UGA fans are really the only ones who can say anything about our schedule considering they are the only SEC school that has played more BCS OOC opponents then we have.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 4:53 pm to meansonny
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They play FSU and Miami regularly.
In the last 25 years, UF has only played Miami 5 times.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 4:55 pm to jchamil
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In the last 25 years, UF has only played Miami 5 times.
Or you could have said in the last 12 we have played them 5 times, about to be 6 in last 13. Recent history suggests we will see them more frequently. Not that it really matters because we are talking about a 2nd BCS OOC opponent.
This post was edited on 5/29/13 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 5/29/13 at 4:59 pm to meansonny
quote:That was a different era in the SEC. The SEC West was weak, and the SEC East was only strong at the top. It was also before the run of National Championships started. Not only all of the above, but Auburn also had to compete against the love and hype fest of USC and Oklahoma.
That was one of the factors that cost Auburn in 2004 (beating Tennessee twice who was their best win on the season).
As it goes now, with the pure dominance in bowl games and National Championships, there is no reason to add one. If the SEC eventually becomes a weaker conference and starts losing more than they win against other conferences, then I would assume it a good idea to change to a 9 game conference.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 5:00 pm to tmc94
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tmc94
Vote to keep 8 game schedule was 13-1
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The point is that we shouldn't be playing FCS teams at all...early, late, whenever.
seems if that was the point, then someone would introduce a proposal to outlaw FCS games like the B1G just did
I agree though and wish that had been the proposal rather than the 9 game slate. I hate those games.
I do too. I live almost 4 hours from Tuscaloosa and never go to those games, an I usually can't even give the tickets away.
The B1G elimination of FCS games won't be phased in for a couple of years though, and they also are looking at a nine (and maybe even ten) game conference schedule.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 5:01 pm to sarc
Didn't saban also something to the effect that each sec school shouldn't look at it's own situation through a drinking straw. It needs to step back and see the whole picture and
do what's BEST for the CONFERENCE as a whole.
do what's BEST for the CONFERENCE as a whole.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 5:02 pm to volfan30
Wait a minute, is this another 'Schedule Thread'?
shite, I better get to work...
Dammit, Alabama's cross-over schedule is a JOKE! Avoiding UGA and UF? PLEASE! If they want to improve their SOS, rotate Tennessee off their damned schedule!
Meanwhile LSU has to play BOTH powers form the East - in addition to sceduling OOC powers regularly.
...And don't give me that 'Tennessee used to be good' bullshite.
shite, I better get to work...
Dammit, Alabama's cross-over schedule is a JOKE! Avoiding UGA and UF? PLEASE! If they want to improve their SOS, rotate Tennessee off their damned schedule!
Meanwhile LSU has to play BOTH powers form the East - in addition to sceduling OOC powers regularly.
...And don't give me that 'Tennessee used to be good' bullshite.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 5:05 pm to bgator85
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bgator85
Vote to keep 8 game schedule was 13-1
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In the last 25 years, UF has only played Miami 5 times.
Recent history suggests we will see them more frequently.
Really? They aren't on the schedule for the next three years after 2013. Recent history suggest that this one home-and-home exchange is an aberration.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 5:12 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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WildTchoupitoulas
...And don't give me that 'Tennessee used to be good' bullshite.
OK, then I'll give you this bullshite...which was the only SEC team that as recently as 1988 had won neither an SEC football championship nor an SEC basketball championship. Hint: it's one of those two "powers" from the east.
Football is cyclical. A team that's a power now may very well not be in ten years...and a team that was a power will likely become one again.
Hell...we're going on the road to play the East team that beat your 2007 NC team.
This post was edited on 5/29/13 at 5:16 pm
Posted on 5/29/13 at 5:12 pm to BamaGradinTn
well, let's face it, there's really no downside to change for the B1G. They last played in a title game in 2007. They last won a title in 2002. Over the last 3 years, they've only had one BCS at-large selection (the SEC has had 7 straight years with an at-large BCS participant).
Clearly what they are doing now hasn't been working. And clearly whatever the SEC has been doing is working. You could say they should mimic us but honestly they've been trying and failing miserably at it. So in that light, getting major changes passed in the B1G right now is probably fairly easy.
Clearly what they are doing now hasn't been working. And clearly whatever the SEC has been doing is working. You could say they should mimic us but honestly they've been trying and failing miserably at it. So in that light, getting major changes passed in the B1G right now is probably fairly easy.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 5:16 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Really?
Yes. 6 times in 13 years. We are certainly seeing them more frequently now then we had in awhile.
And we won't schedule them for future games with uncertainty in SEC schedules. If we go to 9 games this game won't be played so long as we still have FSU on the schedule.
This post was edited on 5/29/13 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 5/29/13 at 5:19 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Sounds pretty good to me. Clemson, VT, Penn State, Michigan, Michigan State...makes our dick bigger than most.
How many of those were road games?
And none of those were in the same season.
Still... you've got one good OOC opponent.
You're doing what you should be.
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