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Posted on 12/2/24 at 1:40 pm to SEC Doctor
quote:Yeah, that's the issue... LSU is 8-4 because they lost a Vegas opener to a P4 team. If they have a cupcake home game to open the season, they're 9-3 like the rest, and in the middle of this conversation too. And ultimately, the answer is still the same: decent season, not worthy of being in the playoffs. Same as the rest of these schools.quote:
LSU is not an "ok" loss. They're just outside of the Top 25. They're 5-3 in conference play. They're an above average SEC team by that metric.
Exactly. LSU has the same SEC record as all these bubble teams in the conference, and actually beat a couple of them. But SOG is right, you can make an argument for whoever you want to.
It goes back to the "eye test," in other words, completely subjective criteria.
Alabama- beat UGA, stomped LSU, beat SCar. But lost to Vandy(!), Oklahoma, and Tennessee. Tenn is forgivable, the other 2 and especially Vandy is not.
Ole Miss- beat UGA, stomped SCar. Lost to LSU, Fla, Kentucky. They needed to beat one of those 3, and particularly the Kentucky loss is why they're out.
South Carolina- everyone loves them, but they lost to Alabama, LSU, and Ole Miss stomped them. If they were, say Auburn or Florida, it would be "ok you were good, but not good enough".
You just gotta get to 10-2 regular season, otherwise you didn't do enough.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 1:41 pm to TheDeathValley
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They both had LSU dead to rights and couldn't get it done.
SCAR got spanked by Ole Miss and should have beaten Alabama.
OM laid an egg against UK and UF.
Neither should have 2 much less 3 losses.
we did but we could argue outside factors all day and go round and round on that. Will the committee favor SC because of the fact we lost our QB at half, since they clearly take injuries into effect. They won't take officials into consideration nor should they so that is a moot point. It definitely stings though to look back on.
heck i truly think if most LSU fans had the opportunity to give SC that game considering the end of season implications (a cool story and keeping bama out) that they would.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 1:41 pm to olemissfan26
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Need an NIT bracket for leftover teams. Triple headers Friday/saturday in Vegas for the next 12 teams that missed out.
Would get Yuugggee numbers
Yea the leftover bowl games for the SEC teams that don't get in are going to be horrid
. This was the most consistent one I saw from people that had all 3 of us out. Citrus - Alabama vs Illinois
ReliaQuest - Ole Miss vs Iowa
Music City - South Carolina vs Michigan
Posted on 12/2/24 at 1:47 pm to captdalton
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Aren’t you the dude that admitted to smoking weed in front of his toddler/s?
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captdalton
So high you forgot you were logged out of your Cajunbama act?
Posted on 12/2/24 at 1:47 pm to Opry
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That was a fluke game like Bama beating Missouri 34-0 was a fluke.
OU wasn’t a fluke game. You just never know what you will get with Milroe, especially an away game
Posted on 12/2/24 at 1:50 pm to John Milner
quote:Yep, one thing not being discussed here is just how bad bama is not at home
You just never know what you will get with Milroe, especially an away game
1-3 vs bowl eligible teams on the road. And two of those losses are to 6-6 bowl eligible teams
That’s kinda important considering they are done playing home games
This post was edited on 12/2/24 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 12/2/24 at 1:54 pm to momentoftruth87
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So high you forgot you were logged out of your Cajunbama act?
The fact I rustled you so much you think I am cajunbama I will take as a compliment.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 1:55 pm to oleyeller
28th SOS for Tenn vs 15th SOS for SC. Pretty self-explanatory.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 1:56 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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I think the most egregious move would be to put Miami in given that they have both the not great losses and absolutely zero good wins.
It will be a joke if Miami gets in over Bama, SC, or Ole Miss. There's no argument for them.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 2:00 pm to lsupride87
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Yep, one thing not being discussed here is just how bad bama is not at home
1-3 vs bowl eligible teams on the road. And two of those losses are to 6-6 bowl eligible teams
That’s kinda important considering they are done playing home games
He's been bad on the road except for the times when he's been brilliant on the road. It's not automatic either way, but when things start bad with him on the road they generally snowball and he cannot regain himself. That happened at Tennessee and Oklahoma. Of course, on the flip side, he was fantastic at LSU. Played well at Texas A&M last year. Played reasonably well at Auburn last year. Played well in Atlanta at a neutral site against UGA last year.
The bigger thing is when defenses are elite Jalen just struggles once we get off the script. He struggled against Michigan last year, struggled against Tennessee and Oklahoma this year and frankly struggled against Carolina this year. On the flip side, he was very good against UGA in a 1st half that was clearly scripted during a bye week.
So there would be a lot of different narratives at play in a 1st round road game for us at what is likely a good defensive opponent (Notre Dame, Ohio State, Penn State most likely). Jalen playing in a road environment again. Jalen playing a really good defense. Jalen coming off a double bye week.
I wouldn't feel super great about it because it's hard to trust Jalen against a very good, sound defense, but this staff has drawn up 2 basically perfect gameplans off of bye weeks this season, so that would at least be a bit of encouragement.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 2:08 pm to captdalton
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The fact I rustled you so much you think I am cajunbama I will take as a compliment.
So instead you just parroted cajunbama and look like an idiot. Smart
Coincidence he didn’t respond but you did and he’s not logged in. Again, smart…
This post was edited on 12/2/24 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 12/2/24 at 2:21 pm to momentoftruth87
Again, that is not a denial.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 2:23 pm to OKBoomerSooner
It’s a combination of their odds of beating Clemson (+2, 54% chance per espn, FEI 13 vs FEI 15) and the odds they still make it if they lose.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 2:43 pm to timdonaghyswhistle
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You can find way better odds than those.
They're paying $8k on a $100 bet if SC were to win a national championship.
That tells me all I need to know about what Vegas knows ... we're not making the cut.
I blame it on Beamer. Too hard-headed to take the points or punt rather than going on 4th and short.
Live and learn.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 2:53 pm to captdalton
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They are an unranked loss, just like Oklahoma and Vanderbilt. But they are a bowl eligible team, just like Vanderbilt and Oklahoma.
do you really think there's no difference between LSU and Oklahoma/Vandy
LSU is 8-4, 5-3
Oklahoma is 6-6, 2-6
Vandy is 6-6, 3-5
I know why you want them to be the same, but they're not
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the end of the day, the committee is likely going to categorize wins and losses that way
If you say so
"bowl eligible" doesn't mean a whole lot when there are 77 teams in the country who hold that distinction. They aren't going to view #s 26-77 as the same quality of win/loss
This post was edited on 12/2/24 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 12/2/24 at 2:58 pm to oleyeller
quote:every team that won against Carolina had a top 20 ranking before it's name -
For losing to shitty teams and being average? You shouldnt
maybe not so much for the Rebs -
we sure didn't lose to an unranked Arkansas as a Top 5 team tho -
Posted on 12/2/24 at 3:00 pm to gamecockman12
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28th SOS for Tenn vs 15th SOS for SC. Pretty self-explanatory.
3 loss vs 2 loss. Self explanatory
Posted on 12/2/24 at 3:08 pm to momentoftruth87
Don’t feel bad for us at all. We lost to fricking Kentucky. Only feel bad if SC somehow jumps us on the “hot streak” theory I’ve seen floated about.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 3:37 pm to John Milner
I think it was. Milroe sucks balls and the OC does too IMHO, but Bama is a better team than what they showed in the OU game.
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