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re: Vandy, Auburn, Tenn do not belong where they were seeded. Check Record & Vegas
Posted on 5/26/25 at 1:20 pm to Saunson69
Posted on 5/26/25 at 1:20 pm to Saunson69
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Vegas makes money for a reason.
What’s does government protection have to do with ncaa seeding?
This post was edited on 5/26/25 at 6:03 pm
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Posted on 5/26/25 at 1:22 pm to Saunson69
Cry some more bitch
Posted on 5/26/25 at 1:23 pm to Saunson69
*sigh*
Never mind. I should have known better.
Never mind. I should have known better.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 1:24 pm to DylanSampson4Heisman
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Everything is pointing towards Arkansas this year.
“Most complete team”
Posted on 5/26/25 at 1:24 pm to Saunson69
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That means there is nothing more accurate than Vegas over time.
Guy figures out amazing strategy of betting the favorite
Posted on 5/26/25 at 1:40 pm to Saunson69
True rankings can be found on betting sites. You'll always find the real truth of what the smartest people think when you track Vegas odds. And obviously the smartest people think different than the committee.
No. Probably less true with baseball bc there are so many casuals but this is an extremely lazy take. Vegas does have formulas but that’s not 100 percent of the equation. Part of the equation is perception equals reality. If 90 percent of betting public thinks team a is better than team b then it affects the odds. Even if the oddsmakers think team b is better. Odds aren’t laid out as rankings they are laid out based on how much money they can make off your perception of the teams a plus how good oddsmakers think teams are.
No. Probably less true with baseball bc there are so many casuals but this is an extremely lazy take. Vegas does have formulas but that’s not 100 percent of the equation. Part of the equation is perception equals reality. If 90 percent of betting public thinks team a is better than team b then it affects the odds. Even if the oddsmakers think team b is better. Odds aren’t laid out as rankings they are laid out based on how much money they can make off your perception of the teams a plus how good oddsmakers think teams are.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 1:45 pm to Saunson69
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It's actually the most wise thing to do compared to any other person or group's opinion. Vegas makes money for a reason. I trust Vegas futures over any polling, RPI, or committee.
Vegas and seeding committees are not trying to achieve the same thing.
Vegas factors in potential betting action into their formulas and they are more concerned with who they think is the "better" team.
The committee is more concerned with who's most deserving based on the body of work. I'm not saying they got it right but they will never mimic what Vegas thinks.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 1:53 pm to Saunson69
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7. Vanderbilt Commodores+1500
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T-8. Florida+2000
Pretty solid odds for coaching staffs that both know what it takes to win the whole thing.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 1:58 pm to Saunson69
quote:You seem to not understand or comprehend what Vandyrone explained. Saying, "...well Vegas makes money..." doesn't address the specifics of the futures market you presented. Stay away from the oven.
Trust me, if something or someone or some group was more accurate than Vegas, then it would be exploited.
This post was edited on 5/26/25 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 5/26/25 at 2:33 pm to Tammany Tom
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It doesn’t matter!!!!
I love LSU’s regional and pairing with Clemson far better than Auburns pairing with Coastal and Florida and Arkansas’ pairing with Tennessee.
Yeah... apart from hosting the numerical seed doesn't really matter. Baseball is a little different in that they use other stuff to factor in matchups, etc. Auburn being (4) doesn't mean they have the 4th easiest path to Omaha. It's more about fitting puzzle pieces together then it is making sure the 1 seed has the 32 and 33 teams in their bracket and the 16 and 17 teams across the Super Regional line.
We all knew Auburn was going to get a national seed and host based on their resume and computer metrics. The fact that they are 4 instead of 5-8 probably has more to do with the other 7 teams they are paired against then it does a true ranking. Same with LSU and other schools.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 3:35 pm to reggierayreb
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Pretty solid odds for coaching staffs that both know what it takes to win the whole thing.
Exactly what I was thinking.
I made a little on Florida in hoops & Rory winning the Masters. One of these 2 could make for a nice Spring
This post was edited on 5/26/25 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 5/26/25 at 3:43 pm to rich4pres
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Yep. It’s the Omahogs year.
Nah. We'll shite the bed again. Tennessee is a lock.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 3:48 pm to Saunson69
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Trust me, if something or someone or some group was more accurate than Vegas, then it would be exploited.
How about data on actual games played?
It is far easier to have a better record when you play lesser quality opponents.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 3:51 pm to Vandyrone
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Never mind. I should have known better.
You really should have. Like beating your head against a brick wall.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 4:13 pm to Saunson69
I’m ready for our AI overlords to start determining playoff, NCAA tournament, and regional seeds.
The good ole boy system with select athletic directors getting a say is for the birds.
The good ole boy system with select athletic directors getting a say is for the birds.
This post was edited on 5/26/25 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 5/26/25 at 4:17 pm to Freight Joker
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The good ole boy system with select athletic directors getting a say is for the birds.
as opposed to voters with a hand out like the good old days?
Selection committees today use data on games played to determine their choices. With this many teams involved, it is hard to get it correct across the board. It is far better than it used to be though.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 5:19 pm to Saunson69
Auburn definitely didn't deserve the 4 seed. Got very lucky and Oregon got screwed.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 7:25 pm to MrAUTigers
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It is far better than it used to be though.
Remember the old days? If an SEC team wasn’t hosting we’d get sent to Stanford or Arizona or Fullerton?
Regional sites are so much better
Posted on 5/26/25 at 7:40 pm to Saunson69
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It's actually the most wise thing to do compared to any other person or group's opinion. Vegas makes money for a reason. I trust Vegas futures over any polling, RPI, or committee.
I bet they haven't picked any of the last 5 champions with maybe exception of lsu. It's a crapshoot. It always is.
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