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Posted on 1/12/21 at 10:09 am to Chicken
You should probably sticky this post.
Would be less embarrassing than seeing it pop back to the top every couple of years.
Would be less embarrassing than seeing it pop back to the top every couple of years.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 10:11 am to Chicken
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79 bama was 12-0 and ranked #1 in both polls.
No. 1 didn't play No. 2 that year in the bowl game...
And that's the best reason of all not to use your dumb metric. It's not the way it was done back then with bowl tie ins so there is no legitimate reason whatsoever to punish the schools other than just being a plain old douche bag about it. The number is 13 and that's as legit as it gets.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 10:12 am to artompkins
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It's dumb to say more. 13 legit titles in the poll era is way more than anyone else. No need to add in all that other crap when it's not needed.
I don’t ever see the Bama ranters following your advice on this.
I wonder why they inflated the numbers in the first place.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 10:18 am to dstone12
Some joker added 5 in the late 80s randomly to the legit 6 we had and a bunch of retards in Bamas propaganda office ran with it.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 10:21 am to dstone12
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A good case study would be, not how many; but WHY they Retro-claim the questionable ones.
It would be very interesting tk get some short answers on that.
Too deep in to change the tally now. The claims like ‘41 started when we were losing relevancy and the admin and fans were clinging to history a little too tightly. Almost like a tax, it’s on the books now and they’re not going away.
We have a whole pile of titles, take some away, add some in, whatever. Not like it matters. Though that ‘41 claim is really embarrassing.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 10:21 am to artompkins
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Some joker added 5 in the late 80s randomly to the legit 6 we had and a bunch of retards in Bamas propaganda office ran with it.
#FirmlySecureU
Posted on 1/12/21 at 10:23 am to artompkins
If you talk to me, I usually just stick with poll titles. Legacy (Retro) titles are hard to quantify and that 1941 claim from the guy who did the media guide ages ago is an eyesore.
I'm sure people will point to my signature, and as I've explained a billion times - that's the "if Alabama claimed as many titles as Alabama does" (playing on when other schools make the same statement). Someone awarded Alabama a title in 31 different seasons.
These are the legit titles (AP, UPI, BCS and CFP):
1961, 1964, 1965 (AP), 1973 (Coaches), 1978 (AP), 1979, 1992, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2015, 2017, 2020
I find the criteria "#1 had to play #2" to be an odd one, considering that nothing required that prior to 1992 - and even then, it wasn't really enforced until much later. Miami could have ducked Alabama, played a weaker opponent at the end of the 1992 season. Per Chicken, if they lose that game and Alabama moves to #1 anyway it's no longer a "valid title".
I'm sure the fact that it invalidates one LSU title and several Alabama ones played no part in his logic
I'm sure people will point to my signature, and as I've explained a billion times - that's the "if Alabama claimed as many titles as Alabama does" (playing on when other schools make the same statement). Someone awarded Alabama a title in 31 different seasons.
These are the legit titles (AP, UPI, BCS and CFP):
1961, 1964, 1965 (AP), 1973 (Coaches), 1978 (AP), 1979, 1992, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2015, 2017, 2020
I find the criteria "#1 had to play #2" to be an odd one, considering that nothing required that prior to 1992 - and even then, it wasn't really enforced until much later. Miami could have ducked Alabama, played a weaker opponent at the end of the 1992 season. Per Chicken, if they lose that game and Alabama moves to #1 anyway it's no longer a "valid title".
I'm sure the fact that it invalidates one LSU title and several Alabama ones played no part in his logic
Posted on 1/12/21 at 10:25 am to skrayper
Damn we got the dreaded double asterisk. Oh well we will take it.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 10:25 am to artompkins
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Some joker added 5 in the late 80s randomly to the legit 6 we had and a bunch of retards in Bamas propaganda office ran with it.
Turning college football into a beauty contest for 125 years was the joke. And a bad one. 125 years and college football couldn't figure out how to crown a legitimate champion on the field. They had it figured out for golf, basketball, baseball, swimming, track-and-field, just not college football.
The only thing bogus in that timeframe were the people who continued to sit in those backrooms pimping the game and bowl season for 125 years.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 10:29 am to artompkins
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And that's the best reason of all not to use your dumb metric. It's not the way it was done back then with bowl tie ins so there is no legitimate reason whatsoever to punish the schools other than just being a plain old douche bag about it. The number is 13 and that's as legit as it gets.
17 national championships.
None of them are questionable. 17 of them are legit, 1 of them(1941) is just plain bad.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 10:31 am to WilliamTaylor21
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I do not think Bana gets their 8th title this year...
Same.
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I believe it will be Ohio State's turn...
Again, same. Everyone knows they have the offense. Defense is loaded and will be elite by the “CFP” - just like 2019 LSU.
Wow!
This is going to leave a mark.
Wow! :rotflmao:
Posted on 1/12/21 at 10:35 am to BIGJLAW
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This is going to leave a mark.
Nah, Chicken isn't like Willie. He came into the thread and admitted when he was wrong. He'll still do the kiddie stuff like adding extra asterisks and such - but he's man enough to admit his own frick ups.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 10:43 am to Chicken
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** Diminished season due to COVID
Posted on 1/12/21 at 10:58 am to 3down10
quote:41 makes up for 66, which clearly should have been bama
17 national championships.
None of them are questionable. 17 of them are legit, 1 of them(1941) is just plain bad.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 10:59 am to 3down10
There's an actual article from the 80s where some egghead admitted to making them up and adding them to the university totals but whatever. Claiming those non legit titles gives people ammo to discredit some of the legit 13.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 11:03 am to artompkins
Guys, just roll with it. I stopped arguing with them years ago and just did what they accuse us of doing - claim every championship any entity has ever awarded us. I've lost count, but we have to be getting close to 30 NC's now. They love it if you add them to your sig. You could be discussing anything, and an LSU fan will change the subject to talk about all of our NC's. It's fun.
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Posted on 1/12/21 at 3:25 pm to Teague
Yep. However you want to count 'em up, Bama still has the most.
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