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re: Unless you’ve been a college athlete under the NCAA you wouldn’t understand...
Posted on 10/1/19 at 4:29 pm to thelawnwranglers
Posted on 10/1/19 at 4:29 pm to thelawnwranglers
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NCAA is amateur if they want to be pros go be a pro
Except they can't. If the NFL/NBA want to remove the restrictions on going pro, then maybe that's a different conversation, but right now you have to be 3 years out of school in football and one year out of school in basketball, which does not exist in any other profession as far as I can tell. You could say that's an NFL/NBA issue, but I can't imagine the NCAA doesn't mind being able to trade on players' likeness for that time period and make boatloads of cash in the process. If my school sells a jersey with a players number on it, that player should be able to get a piece of that pie imo. Believe me, nobody would pay money for a t-shirt with my face on it, but if they did I'd dang sure want to be able to sell it.
Yes it's messy, but yes it's the right thing to do. Those kids have earned it.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 4:32 pm to NEMizzou
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If the NFL/NBA want to remove the restrictions on going pro,
Sue the pro leagues
This has nothing to do with NCAA
Posted on 10/1/19 at 4:33 pm to thelawnwranglers
The courts will prove otherwise. It’s a matter of time now.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 4:34 pm to Goldtide1
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That should be their choice. But why not if that’s what they chose to do? Put yourself in their shoes. Would you want someone telling you that you aren’t allowed to sign your own signature for money?
Guess what? That's how the real world works.
Jobs, volunteer organizations, clubs, etc all have restrictions as to what their employees and/or members are allowed to do. I used to work for a law enforcement agency. Want to get a part time job? It had to be approved by management and the list of the type of places you couldn't work was extensive. So you're an expert in your field and an attorney wants to pay you to be an expert about a case in another state? That's a fat nope burger.
I'm sorry you're being forced to choose whether you get to participate in an organization's activities only when you follow their rules. I would have though kids learned that before college.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 4:34 pm to Goldtide1
Playing college sports is voluntary
Posted on 10/1/19 at 4:35 pm to Goldtide1
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The courts will prove otherwise. It’s a matter of time now.
The courts will end up siding with the NCAA. Nobody makes a kid pay college sports. Nobody makes colleges join the NCAA.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 4:36 pm to Goldtide1
quote:Nobody's giving the hundreds of small schools players endorsement deals though. How will the pay for play/paid for likeness laws help some obscure small school we've never heard of anyway?
At Alabama, LSU, auburn, etc. Those big universities are the exception to the rule, not the norm. There are hundreds of small schools you never hear about and those athletic departments struggle to make ends meet.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 4:36 pm to Goldtide1
I was too. I firmly disagree with you.
It was a privilege to play collegiate athletics, and I would have done it for free (no scholly) I enjoyed it so much.
It was a privilege to play collegiate athletics, and I would have done it for free (no scholly) I enjoyed it so much.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 4:37 pm to RT1941
Plenty of businesses in those local markets would utilize the athletes in their advertisements/marketing. It’s not supposed to help the schools, but the athlete.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 4:37 pm to Goldtide1
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Not what I’m saying.
It's literally the title of the thread.
"Unless you’ve been a college athlete under the NCAA you wouldn’t understand"
Posted on 10/1/19 at 4:39 pm to Goldtide1
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That should be their choice. But why not if that’s what they chose to do? Put yourself in their shoes. Would you want someone telling you that you aren’t allowed to sign your own signature for money? The mass majority of student athletes have no where near a full ride.
You have entitlement issues.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 4:39 pm to JustGetItRight
You’re very wrong. What’s most likely to happen is that the ncaa will concede before it gets to that because if it does the NCAA will go broke. That’s not just me saying it. In case you’re unaware, the courts haven’t been too kind to the NCAA up to this point.
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 10/1/19 at 4:40 pm to Goldtide1
Your 2 years of being a scrub on the diving team or whatever wouldn’t have earned you an extra cent re: these new laws. Enjoy the many other benefits you received that were unavailable to us non athletes
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 10/1/19 at 4:40 pm to StopRobot
quote:So is membership with the NCAA.
Playing college sports is voluntary
Posted on 10/1/19 at 4:40 pm to NEMizzou
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Except they can't. If the NFL/NBA want to remove the restrictions on going pro, then maybe that's a different conversation,
The NFL and NBA are not the only options for being paid to play those two sports
Posted on 10/1/19 at 4:43 pm to thelawnwranglers
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This in NFL issue not an NCAA issue
Except this has NOTHING to do with paying a player TO PLAY a sport. It’s about allowing them to make money off their likeness, autographs, or even hold a camp in the offseason.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 4:44 pm to Goldtide1
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At Alabama, LSU, auburn, etc. Those big universities are the exception to the rule, not the norm. There are hundreds of small schools you never hear about and those athletic departments struggle to make ends meet
And this will make it even harder for those schools ... those players won't get endorsements unless it is a booster wanting to jock sniff.
Sorry but players are already being compensated for their efforts on the field. Full rides plus cost of attendance stipends. Plus just about everything else is provided. Every meal, 24-7 snacks, clothes as needed, laundry services and etc.
This does nothing but cause issues and will further separate the haves and have nots.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 4:46 pm to J2thaROC
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Except this has NOTHING to do with paying a player TO PLAY a sport. It’s about allowing them to make money off their likeness, autographs, or even hold a camp in the offseason.
You are wrong. Here is why.
Once you sign an endorsement deal, your only option is to play professional sports. Then the question is... where do you play professionally when the nfl has illegal rules discriminating against 18, 19, and 20 year old kids for the sake of benefitting older, richer people (see the nflpa)
Posted on 10/1/19 at 4:46 pm to Goldtide1
I won the 1969 Heisman trophy after running the ball over 420 times. I know about the life of a student athlete.
It can be very challenging! Paying players is something that is inevitable - and there is not an easy way to do it.
The obvious method is a flat payment that every player gets - but if the star player is making the same amount as the 3rd string kicker, that won’t fly.
It can be very challenging! Paying players is something that is inevitable - and there is not an easy way to do it.
The obvious method is a flat payment that every player gets - but if the star player is making the same amount as the 3rd string kicker, that won’t fly.
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 10/1/19 at 4:46 pm to Goldtide1
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In case you’re unaware, the courts haven’t been too kind to the NCAA up to this point.
You are apparently unaware of what happened with the NLRB.
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