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re: Universities still begging fans for money

Posted on 10/11/23 at 10:01 pm to
Posted by PassingThrough
Member since Sep 2021
2622 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 10:01 pm to
Actually, I thought UGA got pretty lucky that at least one OL and eventually a DL were total idiots on a couple of penalties. That really helped UGA, and then also had a QB that just flat out missed guys wide open due to pretty good play calling. You can call it coaching all you want, but in the end the players didn’t make the plays or the right decisions. And when your depth isn’t all that, you can’t just yank a guy due to being a dumbass. Granted a coach is making a ton of money, but now that certain players are also likely making good money, I feel less bad about calling them out for poor decisions as well.
Posted by Leopold
Columbia
Member since Sep 2013
1832 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 11:02 pm to
quote:

So you didn't watch the video.


Watched it starting at 5:40, just like was recommended.

Uncle Lou asks where the money is going. Well, it's going where the law requires it to go, for starters. 50% of it, by law, has to go to women's sports, and they are almost to a player money losers unless your are UConn.

Then you have the NCAA requirements. In order for a program to qualify as a NCAA Division 1 program you have to have, essentially, 26 sports - TWENTY SIX. Men's tennis, golf, bass fishing, etc. probably isn't making you any money. Football, if - IF - it's making you any money is subsidizing possibly 25 other programs, maybe more.

I could go on but I'm telling you

College athletics HEMORRHAGES money and larger and larger TV contracts aren't going to change that unless the fundamental model changes.
Posted by deputyfife
Member since Dec 2013
1399 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 11:16 pm to
I'm still wondering when we get our cut.

Taxpayers donated the lands and funds to build these universities, and bankrolled them.

The sports teams of the universities only make money because they belong to the institutions we funded. Otherwise they'd be less profitable than the XFL, etc.

So when can the citizens of the states expect to get a cut of the revenue?
Posted by Leopold
Columbia
Member since Sep 2013
1832 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 11:23 pm to
Pate's got a better take on the situation:

Pate Link
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
30177 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 5:56 am to
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What is the ROI for these millionaire and billionaire doners?


They get to brag about their team.
No different than the losers in this board who get their value from a bunch of overgrown children playing a game.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
20406 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 6:00 am to
It’s everywhere. Every business, organization, corporation, etc is looking for ways to squeeze more money out of consumers. As long as people keep paying and profits keep rising, they’ll keep doing it.

Capitalism is greater economic driver of innovation in the history of mankind, but it also cultivates greed. Still better than any alternative, but until the populace is educated enough to think critically with where they put their money, these problems will continue.

Posted by Ezra Blu Boudroux
On the Broad
Member since Mar 2023
651 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 7:01 am to
Shits gotten outta control.
Posted by Lord of the Hogs
Member since Sep 2023
3570 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 7:05 am to
Stoops actually takes calls from fans that could potentially say whatever they wanted to him? That’s bold.
Posted by ukraine_rebel
North Mississippi
Member since Oct 2012
3654 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 8:43 am to
Well the cost of doing business has gone up ab 30% w/ NIL, where do you think Universities, particularly athletic departments, get their money from?
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
4816 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:10 am to
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CFB, the only sport where you have to bribe a kid to come to your school and then pretend like he cares about your school.


It just prepares them to go to the NFL and do the same thing regarding your team/city.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7613 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:17 am to
The University system in the US (public and private) is built on begging for money. Not just for sports, but for everything.

You pay to go to a school.

Then they beg you to join the alumni association (pay money to the university after you are done attending school).

Individual schools within the university beg you to join specific alumni associations (even more money to the school).

Then they beg alumni members to donate even more money to the university (endowments).

Does it really surprise anyone that they beg for money to improve athletics too?
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
41218 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:20 am to
Besides buying tickets/concession food & drink, I don't give a dime
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
9140 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:26 am to
i saw on twitter a few gamecock fans trying to figure out how to increase NIL. one wanted to have a "round up" button at concessions to donate to NIL.

No...honestly no. College sports are going to kill themselves because honestly the cost of everything is too high. The die hards will hang on, but the average fan will quit going, and then disassociate themselves.
Posted by gamecockhub
Lexington, SC
Member since Sep 2017
368 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:35 am to
I donate money for the ability to buy tickets, I pay for tickets. On top of this I am charged a "seat fee" for each seat( dealer gouge) and I pay the university for parking. They are not getting another dime from me.
Posted by New Money
Athens, GA
Member since Jun 2023
3432 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:35 am to
University athletic associations are tax shelters. Every penny of profit from athletics should be used to defray the cost of operating the university or it should be taxed just like any other business.
Posted by bayou prince
NC
Member since Oct 2019
1525 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:22 am to
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Who wants to keep kicking more money into a diminishing product. NIL has effectively ruined college athletics and I find myself less and less interested with each passing year.


Absolutely the truth and you took the words right out of my mouth. I've been saying for years now, actually decades, that when you pay college athletes who are suppose to be playing an amateur sport into a greedy professional money hungry sport then then the end is near. It has made me sick over the years to hear so many people say college atletes should be "PAID". Hey, isn't a $25000 a year free education with all the perks good enough, for goodness sakes. But this is America, and all that people think about, $$$$$. Still love CFB with all the rah-rah, pride, and sectionalism, but I'm slowly losing interest. The NFL died to me years ago with nothing but talk of money, money, money..... Same with all pro sports.
This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 10:24 am
Posted by That LSU Guy
Ponte Vedra Beach
Member since Jul 2008
15018 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:25 am to
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Watch the video
lol no
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
9140 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:56 am to
quote:

Every penny of profit from athletics should be used to defray the cost of operating the university or it should be taxed just like any other business.




so Carolina does do this. any extra money goes back to the general fund
Posted by themetalreb
Mississippi
Member since Sep 2018
6713 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 11:33 am to
quote:

Schools overall are losing money like crazy on athletics


Are you serious? Like, for real?
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
20554 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

The University system in the US (public and private) is built on begging for money. Not just for sports, but for everything.

You pay to go to a school.

Then they beg you to join the alumni association (pay money to the university after you are done attending school).

Individual schools within the university beg you to join specific alumni associations (even more money to the school).

Then they beg alumni members to donate even more money to the university (endowments).

Does it really surprise anyone that they beg for money to improve athletics too?


John Mulaney had a pretty funny bit about this

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