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Putin/Russia has zero influence on either China or the USA.


No, Putin has immense influence over Trump and thus America.

Don't believe me? Here's the WSJ article showing how Putin got Trump to appoint Steve Frickin' Witkoff as the envoy to help negotiate a 'peace settlement' for Ukraine:

WSJ: How Putin Got His Prefferred US Envoy for Ukraine

I could not imagine a more pro-Russian gesture and act of subservience than to appoint this man to this position, and there is plenty more where that came from.
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Show us the treaty we have with Ukraine.


We don't have one, which is exactly why I (along with VP Vance) say that we don't support the Ukraine. To directly quote Vance, we've 'ended the support for Ukraine.' I mean, who am I to disagree with our VP?

What we do have is are treaties with NATO countries, both individually and collectively, and the arms, money, and political support that we provide is then given to the Ukraine. Many, including on this board, think this is dumb but I disagree for reasons stated many times on this topic.

That, and US companies like Boeing who still builds the F-15, no doubt see the Ukraine as a potential client and lobby various countries to provide them the planes so as to build a new relationship. Again, our limited 'support' doesn't exactly make us the Sisters of the Poor.

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Next, there is a lot more to this than Ukraine. The EU has been screwing the US in trade for decades to keep US products out of its marketplace and of course welching on their agreed to contributions to defense spending. Europe needs to be the supporter of Ukraine way more than it has.


Well, I agree with you on that, at least the 'decades' part, but since we no longer support the Ukrainians the support now comes almost entirely from the Europeans. Again, it's admirable that Trump has gotten the Europeans to shoulder more of the load, but with his relationship with Putin being what it is it's less about financial responsibility and more about the belief that if America just left the Ukrainians to die they would be swallowed up by the Russians, which is clearly not going to happen.
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If Trump stopped the training when he returned to office then why did Task Force Alpine assume command of training Ukrainian troops in Germany on 02/19/2026?


I'll never know the full reason, but I'm willing to bet it's because it's a mulitnational training effort with a framework most likely agreed upon years ago, possibly even before the invasion happening. The remaining 1% of the aid that we didn't cut probably benefits the right people (ie. arms dealers), and/or happened to be part of a larger contractual obligation we fulfilled, like NATO. Both of these reasons would explain why we are training pilots, as well. But that doesn't exactly make us the Sisters of Mercy.

It's true that Trump was able to get the Europeans to pay their share, and that's admirable, but it takes a darker turn when you look at all the favors he's doing Putin and the way they've pressured the Ukrainians to give in.

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You a dumbass who believes the lies the international MSM media tells you


I don't need the media, I've got my own professional contacts developed after decades in this warped business. But hey, keep thinking the 'Ukrainians don't have cards." Was it the media who said that?

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I actually have friends in Ukraine and went and volunteered in a children's hospital in Kharkiv in the summer of 2022.


Yeah, that's not a reflection on you big dog. Just your friend, god bless him. You may not be as supportive of an invaded people as you think when you tell someone to go 'suck a Ukrianian dick."
Gee, how generous.

You mean that the US government allowed the Ukrainians the opportunity to buy products from the US Tech industry, the main backers of JD Vance? That the one group of people, the moneymen, who could whisper into the Trump administration's ear and say "Uh, we want to sell potentially billions of dollars of our product to the Ukrainians so we need you to stay out of it" got to do so?

Wow. Where do we build the Trump statue....

Guys, there isn't going to spin the fact that the US government did everythign the could, at least in a passive sense, to help the Russians. When Trump grinned and told the reporters that (and I quote) the Russians are "Really pounding them" people figured out pretty quickly who he was rooting for. It's only gotten worse as Trump has repeatedly lifted sanctions on the Russians while this war has gone on, much of that happening before the Iran war.

We haven't done our part, and again, debating it doesn't make us look any less guilty.

The 'midget' as some of you like to refer to Z as, is winning, and is going to win.

Good for him.
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1. Training of Ukrainian troops was accelerated during the 1st Trump presidency.

2. Trump was the first to provide Ukrainians with lethal aid back in 2018.


This is true. It's also true that it ended the second Trump took office for the second time.
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3. The USA has continued to supply Ukraine with intelligence and other levels of indirect support since the start of the 2nd Trump presidency. By the time that Trump returned to office, Ukraine no longer needed direct support from the USA.

4. The Trump administration has allowed weapons to be delievered to Ukraine despite our own conflicts. In early March, a batch of Patriot missiles which were purchased by Germany were delievered to Ukraine. Trump could have easily invoked national security concerns to have those interceptors sent to the Middle East instead. However, he did not. He allowed them to go to Ukraine.


Great. But we've cut actual aid to next to nothing and repeatedly blamed and humilited them in a failed attempt to get them to hand over the country.

Look, you and I can argue about this all we want but, again, the Ukrainians aren't stupid. They know damn well who was for them and who was against them, and this is going to cost us. Maybe not a lot, but we stood to gain IMMENSELY by backing the Ukrainians, and our policies since 2024 have done nothing to help that.
No, this is legit. Putin is going to try to survive this war, because he sure as hell ain't going to win it.

The narrative starting to come out of the Kremlin seems to be that Russia 'survived' this war. I'm sure it's going to change, and the Kremlin is going to lie at every point, but right now it seems as though Putin and his cronies are going to go with the "the West tried to attack us/bring us down/we were actually forced into this war" BS. I don't know it it's going to work, but the one thing I will absolutely give Vladimir Putin credit for is his ability to survive.
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New Russian cope narrative


Didn't you, like five minutes ago, insinuate that Ukrainians have IQ's in the low-80's?


The Supreme Ruler of Malaysia better watch out

he's already got people after him.....

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Ukrainians better pray the midget Zelenskyy isn’t successful in assassinating Putin because he’d be replaced by Russia’s neicons who will have zero issue wiping Ukraine out with tactical nukes.


1. Z is too smart to assassinate Putin - it would only make the Russian people mad and, frankly, the Russians might end up being led by somebody qualified and competent in leading this war, and

2. The Russians can't nuke Ukraine because they have to be able to hold it. Even using tactical nukes would defeat the whole purpose of this war.
Ehhh, I've got to believe that Soigu is loyal. He's largely seen, at least outside of the Kremlin circles, as one of the least competent men in an organization filled to the brim with incompetent 'yes-men.' He's not particularly liked by the military (and that may be a huuuuge understatement), and he saw what happened when there was an uprising last time.

Here's a interesting take on it, and a different one at that:

No, Russia is not on the verge of a coup
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Who ever thought Putin would be hiding in bunkers ala Hitler?






This is a genuinely interesting map. Is there a link somewhere to it?
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Bookmarked for January when the Democratic majority in both House and Senate are sworn in.

You will be lucky if this thread is around by then with the way it's been ruined.


This war will still be going on come January 1st, 2027.

If anybody wants to make an avatar bet, I'm down. I'll bet my school's logo vs. your school's logo for a year, through till Jan. 1, 2028.

And if I'm willing to bet, right now, double or nothing, that it's going on come May 1st, 2027 when I win the first one.

This war isn't ending any time soon boys. The only way it will is if the Russian government collapses before those dates.

Let me know if anyone is interested and we'll talk terms.
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Just how long do you think Europe is going to pay the bill for Ukraine to keep fighting now w that we have done our part and stepped back? A year? 2 maybe?


Well, let's do the math.

They are financing a new 90B Euro loan, so that's around the next year and a half already. And you know who's positioned to pay that loan back?

The Russians: Reuters: How the EU's 90 billion euro loan works

Yep, the Russians are going to pay to keep Ukraine in the fight.

And since the Ukrainians are now positioning themselves as Europe's answer to Silicon Valley, one where they become world-wide leaders in a technology that is going to go global and attract billions upon billions in international investment and completely upend the old order of military technology, I don't see any reason as to why the Europeans would stop backing them, do you? Especially since the Russians have openly stated over the years on multiple occasions that they were going to attack mainland Europe at some point.

So since it's the Russians footing the bill, and it's going to keep the war in Ukraine and not, say, Poland, Germany, or the Baltic States, then, yeeeaah, I see the Europeans keeping this up for possibly decades.

Wouldn't you if you were them?

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I agree fully but without Zelensky willing to seriously talk about giving up the Donbas Putin will never engage in talks


Again, this has already happened, multiple times. The Trump administration offered has offered up half a dozen peace proposals, all of which the Ukrainians said they were open to - it was the Russian's who said 'no.'

Ya'll are acting like the Russians are negotiating in good faith, and it's clear they aren't. So it doesn't matter what Z offers up, it will never be enough, so Putin and his cronies aren't getting anything. This war is going to go on until one state collapses, that's it and that's all.

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I’d love if we made an air base in Poland


We've already got multiple, and with Germany's geographic position, the change to drone technology, and the fact that Poland could be Russian's next target only a fool would decide to build a brand-new air base in Poland.
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FACT-CHECK: Did Secretary Hegseth Just Fib to Congress About Ukraine and Russia?

There was a lot of inaccurate information. At a few points, the US Defense Secretary seemed in felony violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1001, the law mandating honest testimony to Congress.


I'm as serious as a heart attack when I tell you multiple members of this administration are going to have severe legal problems when Trump leaves office.

This isn't going to be like other changes in power. Trump isn't going to protect them, they already don't get along, and it looks like multiple members hate each other, and there are a number of people who are already openly angy at their behavior. This is going to get nasty long before it gets better.
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Euro-slop had to Google american sports ball facts to chameleon himself


Huh.

Never thought of Columbia a 'European.' I guess when you live in Knoxville anyplace not there is considered exotic.

I appreciate it, Vol. I'm even gonna give you an 'upvote' for it.

Stay safe in mountains my man, and watch out for those blue people I hear run around there. Don't want you disappearing into Appalachia while beign kidnapped by Smurfs.
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Weren't you saying a week ago that it was going to be Ukraine?

You Euro-slop posters need to be more subtle if you want to pretend you're American.


Now now, don't get pissy just 'cause UT isn't getting it done on the baseball diamond. Season ain't over and that 10-11 SEC record could get better. Just sayin'

But no, I said that Ukraine could become the 'foremost military power in the world,' which, is a bit of an overstatement I admit, but they since they're kicking the sh!t out of the '#2' (but not really) military in the world right now and the clear leaders in what is going to become the dominant military technology it ain't crazy.

I'm tellin' ya boys, this drone crap's gonna change everything
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STOP SAYING THAT RUSSIA DOESN'T HAVE THE MILITARY TO WAGE WAR BEYOND UKRAINE.


I don't doubt that Russia can 'wage' a war beyond Ukraine.

I doubt that they can win one.