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re: This is why conference champions should never automatically get a bid into the playoff.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:28 pm to Glorious
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:28 pm to Glorious
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Same with Georgia and TCU.
Yes, we would. We would argue that you lost two games and we had one bad game and lost. The second game we had with Auburn seemingly backs this argument up.
So, doing away with championship games would not eliminate arguments.
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:30 pm to ShreveportHog94
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Nope. Not even close and if you really took the time you'd realize that. Bama was always going to get in as long as Wisconsin lost alone. If auburn had beaten LSU and all else kept the same, you'd be looking at an identical CFP.
I disagree. I think OSU would have gotten in, in that scenario.
Neither of us can prove our points, though. We only base it on feelings.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:30 pm to ZeusStamos
Winning your conference should be a requirement to make the playoffs.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:31 pm to DawgsLife
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We would argue that you lost two games
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:32 pm to Glorious
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And without that extra game Ohio State would have had literally no argument.
They really never did though. It was grossly obvious that it was a Wisconsin win or Bama was getting in. No way around it. So in the end Wisconsin was hurt for having a better resume but playing an extra game. No chance on any world that Bama is rolling into a championship game and winning but they don't have to. They are Bama and that's just how it is. Now we just have to watch Clemson knock them out again.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:33 pm to DawgsLife
There are 10 teams in the P5 championship games and only 5 winners.
Of those winners, pick the best 4 to play in the CFP.
There is almost no chance of having multiple 3 loss teams win those games.
It’s very easy to comprehend and you get the best teams who played equal amount of games, unlike Bama who is a highly ranked team but didn’t play a championship game and an opportunity to win or lose it.
Of those winners, pick the best 4 to play in the CFP.
There is almost no chance of having multiple 3 loss teams win those games.
It’s very easy to comprehend and you get the best teams who played equal amount of games, unlike Bama who is a highly ranked team but didn’t play a championship game and an opportunity to win or lose it.
This post was edited on 12/17/17 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:34 pm to Pickle_Weasel
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Winning your conference should be a requirement to make the playoffs.
Ok. But should it guarantee a team a spot in the playoffs? That is what he is saying. You guys need badly to read the OP before commenting.
He is saying that just because you win your conference, it should not guarantee you a spot in the playoffs.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:34 pm to Dawg4Life47
This ensures that conf championship matter. For OSU, they can argue that it doesn’t.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:34 pm to Pickle_Weasel
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Winning your conference should be a requirement to make the playoffs.
No, the best 4, 6, or 8 teams (depending on how big the playoff gets) should make it. Conference championships should be considered but should not be an automatic ticket.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:35 pm to Glorious
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We would argue that you lost two games
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Ok? I am missing your point?
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:35 pm to Pickle_Weasel
It should be the first step. After that, the committee will decide if you are top 4 of the 5
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:36 pm to ZeusStamos
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No, the best 4, 6, or 8 teams (depending on how big the playoff gets) should make it. Conference championships should be considered but should not be an automatic ticket.
Personally, I hope they keep it at 4 teams. Expand it more and we will see a lot more games like we did last year, where teams get blown out. My opinion.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:38 pm to DawgsLife
No, winning your conference should not guarantee a team to get in. But if you can't win your conference then you shouldn't get in either.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:39 pm to 0
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Then what is the point of a conference champion?
If you have to ask this question, then you have no clue about college football history or tradition.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:41 pm to stat19
Ask OSU what is the point of it
This post was edited on 12/17/17 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:42 pm to Pickle_Weasel
Then who would get in if there was a year with multiple upsets in conference championship games. What if the winners of the power 5 had records like this:
1. 12-1
2. 12-1
3. 11-2
4. 10-3
5. 9-4
Meanwhile there are two teams that didn't win their conference that finished 12-1.
It is unlikely to happen but it could, and if it does, who gets in?
1. 12-1
2. 12-1
3. 11-2
4. 10-3
5. 9-4
Meanwhile there are two teams that didn't win their conference that finished 12-1.
It is unlikely to happen but it could, and if it does, who gets in?
This post was edited on 12/17/17 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:45 pm to Dawg4Life47
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Ask OSU what is the point of it
OSU understands the significance of being a conference champion, but they likewise understand winning a conference championship doesn't make you one of the four best teams to be considered for the CFP.
Look back at their social media arguments from last year.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:46 pm to ZeusStamos
If UGA beats OU and a miracle happens and Bama beats CU, you can pretty much be assured the 4 team playoff will be expanded to 8 teams.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:52 pm to ZeusStamos
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Did you not read my original post? It happened 5 years ago
That only happened because 12-0 Ohio State was on probation
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:52 pm to Jake_LaMotta
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Committee has explained what the conference championship is used for when evaluating teams.
Yeah, jack shite. Unless they can use that as an excuse to get one of their blue bloods in
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