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re: This is why conference champions should never automatically get a bid into the playoff.

Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:10 pm to
Posted by Dawg4Life47
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:10 pm to
The best 4 teams of the P5 championship games should be in the CFP and that will settle it...simple.

There is your 16 team playoff scenario everyone talks about.
This post was edited on 12/17/17 at 3:11 pm
Posted by Volodya
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:11 pm to
lol I'm pretty sure everyone that questions the need for CC games would sympathize with Bama. Bama has notoriously benefitted from this so why are you whining?
Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:11 pm to
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The best 4 teams of the P5 championship games should be in the CFP and that will settle it...simple.


So you genuinely want a pool of 5 teams to select from each and every year? Jesus that is retarded
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:11 pm to
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Then what is the point of a conference champion? If it shouldn't be taken into consideration then why make the division winners play an extra game that could potentially keep them out of the playoff?


To gauge just how good your team is against the best team of the other division?

USC has just as much of a claim as Ohio State, but in the end you have to look at the losses.

Personally, I think Auburn who is 2 - 2 against Playoff teams has more business being in the CFP than Alabama even though they didn't win.

I'd take Auburn over OSU or USC, shite, I might take LSU over them. Alabama for sure, but both of those teams had some embarrassing losses to teams they never should have lost to, and this just means for the future:

Play every game like it matters, fight as hard as you can and run up the score.
This post was edited on 12/17/17 at 3:14 pm
Posted by ZeusStamos
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Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:12 pm to
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The chances of a 4 or 5 loss team winning a conference championship is virtually ni


Did you not read my original post? It happened 5 years ago.
Posted by Dawg4Life47
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:13 pm to
Pool of 5 conference champions? Yea...seems like you are the Tard.
Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:13 pm to
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Cancel conference championships then


Why? 2014 Ohio State gets left out over Baylor. Same with 2015 Michigan State. Why tell teams looking to improve thier resume to frick off?
Posted by Dawg4Life47
Beach
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:15 pm to
In my scenario Bama is left out, that is what pisses you off.

fricking win your conference then.
Posted by Sao
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:17 pm to

Under no modern or past National Champion scenario or process would a 7-5 team, ala Wisconsin, be considered for the title. It has not nor will not exist.
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:19 pm to
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I just think if you're gonna have conference championships they should mean something.

They do mean something. They just don't mean everything.
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Being rewarded for sitting on the couch while other teams play is bull shite. But that's the buckeye / bama way.

In 2012, we played the National Champions for the SECCG. Florida sat home, and they went to the Sugar Bowl and we went to some dinky bowl. We understand what you are saying, but that is the way it happens sometimes.

If Auburn had beaten LSU, you might have had a different situation. That's not trolling Auburn. It's just that Auburn, imo, was the superior team, and they messed up. It cost them.
Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:19 pm to
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In my scenario Bama is left out, that is what pisses you off. fricking win your conference then.


No what pisses me off is the constant shitty logic people use. “Ohio State isn’t the best team between Iowa and Ohio State, how can they be the best team in the country.” See how idiotic that sounds? But for some reason the conference champ argument, which is the exact same, has credibility
This post was edited on 12/17/17 at 3:20 pm
Posted by Dawg4Life47
Beach
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:21 pm to
Umm, you should win your conference and if you recall OSU finished 5th in the playoff rankings.

No one would have cared if OSU got in except for the Gumps
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:22 pm to




Poor little booger eating barner. I am willing to bet we score more than 6 points and have more than 117 yards against Clemson. You lost 3 games. That is why you aren’t in the playoffs.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:22 pm to
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The best 4 teams of the P5 championship games should be in the CFP and that will settle it...simple.


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So you genuinely want a pool of 5 teams to select from each and every year? Jesus that is retarded

I almost misread his post, too. Read again. The best 4 teams of the P5 championship games. That means you would be picking from 10 teams, not 5.
In other words if there is a bad upset, a team would still be able to get in. I'm not sure if I agree with his idea, but it is difficult to argue against it, either.
Posted by Dawg4Life47
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:22 pm to
You played 1 less game than everyone, so you don’t know if you would have won. Bama could have had 2 losses.

Your logic is just dumb.
Posted by ShreveportHog94
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:24 pm to
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If Auburn had beaten LSU, you might have had a different situation. That's not trolling Auburn. It's just that Auburn, imo, was the superior team, and they messed up. It cost them.


Nope. Not even close and if you really took the time you'd realize that. Bama was always going to get in as long as Wisconsin lost alone. If auburn had beaten LSU and all else kept the same, you'd be looking at an identical CFP.
Posted by Dawg4Life47
Beach
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:25 pm to
^ this guy gets it
Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:26 pm to
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You played 1 less game than everyone, so you don’t know if you would have won. Bama could have had 2 losses.


And without that extra game Ohio State would have had literally no argument. Same with Georgia and TCU. Which is why conference championships do in fact matter and are better than they have ever been
Posted by 4Ghost
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:26 pm to
Quit you crying. You won the Iron Bowl! Congrats. You think because Auburn beat Bama and UGA, they should have cancelled the SEC CG??
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:26 pm to
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Under no modern or past National Champion scenario or process would a 7-5 team, ala Wisconsin, be considered for the title. It has not nor will not exist.




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This is why conference champions should never automatically get a bid into the playoff.



I'm pretty sure that is what he is saying. There have been threads on here saying the P5 conference champions should go to the playoffs and have 1 at large team. He is saying this should not happen.
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