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re: This board is in 2007 level Alabama denial about the coming monster at A&M
Posted on 1/3/22 at 2:08 am to Stidham8
Posted on 1/3/22 at 2:08 am to Stidham8
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AU has stuff in the works but we're not going to match what A&M is currently doing.
So what are they currently doing with NIL? I know the bullshite Texas is pulling with NIL but I've yet to hear about A&M and their deals.
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Posted on 1/3/22 at 2:11 am to Stidham8
Getting a bunch of 5 stars doesn't always equal championships. In this entitled world we live in now its going to be hard to keep these kids happy enough to stay together. Saban struggles with it and he is the master at keeping everything team first. Jimbo will be overwhelmed by these kids. It will not be the same as sabans teams. He is like bill in New England players act different because of the system. I bet a lot of these kids transfer out after a year or two if they don't see enough playing time.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 2:25 am to RD Dawg
24/7 OU board link
This was posted by a staff member over on the OU 24/7 board. Don't know how credible it is so TIFWIW
This was posted by a staff member over on the OU 24/7 board. Don't know how credible it is so TIFWIW
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To answer the OP's question, the number I've heard is between $25 MM and $30 MM. That was as of 1st signing day.
We're nowhere near prepared to dish out that kind of money. A&M's donors were extremely coordinated. The coaching staff would identify players they wanted, relay those to the "point donor", and then that individual would work with various other donors to build an LLC that would sponsor the targeted player. And if you're hoping they'll just jump in the portal after Year 1, they're a step ahead there, too. They structured each player's deal as a multi-year contract. Leave A&M, and you leave money behind.
A&M is Exhibit A of what everyone was concerned NIL would become. They wasted no time in making that come true.
This post was edited on 1/3/22 at 2:27 am
Posted on 1/3/22 at 2:29 am to EST
The Aggies always had money and good players. But what has hurt them more than anything else is inferior coaching and a weird culture.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 3:24 am to dchog
UGA who is a traditionally better program at the conference level at least in the weaker division has had 5/6 top 5 classes and has only won one SEC title*
Call me when the ags do this multiple years in a row, don't implode and then maybe I'll be intimidated
*Obviously can win the Natty soon if they win
Call me when the ags do this multiple years in a row, don't implode and then maybe I'll be intimidated
*Obviously can win the Natty soon if they win
Posted on 1/3/22 at 3:30 am to Bamadog75
Jimbo won’t be able to handle the prima donnas. Can any of you imagine what Saban would have done with Jameis Winston? Lol. Jimbo gave him free reign. He’ll never be able to handle 20 guys like him.
This post was edited on 1/3/22 at 3:31 am
Posted on 1/3/22 at 3:33 am to Brostache48
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OU 24/7 board. Don't know how credible it is so TIFWIW
Yea,real solid source there.
So we're back to square one.
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The coaching staff would identify players they wanted, relay those to the "point donor", and then that individual would work with various other donors to build an LLC that would sponsor the targeted player. And if you're hoping they'll just jump in the portal after Year 1, they're a step ahead there, too. They structured each player's deal as a multi-year contract. Leave A&M, and you leave money behind.
A&M is Exhibit A of what everyone was concerned NIL would become. They wasted no time in making that come true.
You do know this "arrangement"
is currently against NCAA/NIL rules, correct.
Once again,let's see specific deals with individual players and companies.
Hell,let's see some deals with players currently on the roster.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 3:58 am to Stidham8
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A&M is about to be an absolute force. Get the jokes in while you can I guess.
Maybe besides a few Tiger posters from what I seen most people has acknowledged what A&M is building.
We just have confidence in our athletic department and administrators so it's cool.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 4:03 am to Stidham8
Agree..all a matter of priority. Aggie has 10x money of all other SEC schools (outside Vandy who doesn’t care).
A look at the Foundation sizes tells you all you need to know. Aggie and Texas can buy a team if they want…and apparently they do.
There is no other path forward at this point. You buy recruits.
A look at the Foundation sizes tells you all you need to know. Aggie and Texas can buy a team if they want…and apparently they do.
There is no other path forward at this point. You buy recruits.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 4:21 am to Stidham8
Texas Am has the same problem as UTexas, the boosters. These are big money dealers and if they spend the money they expect a return.
They will expect access to the facilities, face to face time with everybody associated with the AM athletic program, in other words, big timing it.
Every school has them, but like they say, everything is bigger in Texas.
The NIL trend is not going to go very well either long term. Every player will want it, and because of the high profile/money return will expect to play most of the game and have a starring role. Since it is about 25 per recruiting class imagine dealing with 85 inflated egos
At UTexas, if they are paying 50K for each OL, the people paying will expect the OL to be top notch, and if (when) it is not, well.........
I see a massive train wreak coming. There is a reason why the entire state of Texas has only won 1 NC since 1970
They will expect access to the facilities, face to face time with everybody associated with the AM athletic program, in other words, big timing it.
Every school has them, but like they say, everything is bigger in Texas.
The NIL trend is not going to go very well either long term. Every player will want it, and because of the high profile/money return will expect to play most of the game and have a starring role. Since it is about 25 per recruiting class imagine dealing with 85 inflated egos
At UTexas, if they are paying 50K for each OL, the people paying will expect the OL to be top notch, and if (when) it is not, well.........
I see a massive train wreak coming. There is a reason why the entire state of Texas has only won 1 NC since 1970
Posted on 1/3/22 at 4:52 am to Stidham8
I agree with OP but there are some caveats:
1) You still have to go out and get it done on the field. Nobody is going to hand it to you. You can have all the talent in the world but the goat is right next door with just as much talent or more (saban). No offense to Georgia but they’ve been hitting that Alabama road block as well. We proved we could beat Bama but it’s another thing to do it consistently.
2) I think Jimbos offense is very “QB-centric” and if he doesn’t have THE guy at QB or he gets injured we underachieve or just scrape by against lesser teams. I’ve never doubted his recruiting or abilities to run a program. I truly think Weigman is THE guy. Kid is a baller. Like Johnny Manziel but bigger and not a douche with a stronger arm.
We will see. It’s definitely exciting to think about but nothing is guaranteed.
1) You still have to go out and get it done on the field. Nobody is going to hand it to you. You can have all the talent in the world but the goat is right next door with just as much talent or more (saban). No offense to Georgia but they’ve been hitting that Alabama road block as well. We proved we could beat Bama but it’s another thing to do it consistently.
2) I think Jimbos offense is very “QB-centric” and if he doesn’t have THE guy at QB or he gets injured we underachieve or just scrape by against lesser teams. I’ve never doubted his recruiting or abilities to run a program. I truly think Weigman is THE guy. Kid is a baller. Like Johnny Manziel but bigger and not a douche with a stronger arm.
We will see. It’s definitely exciting to think about but nothing is guaranteed.
This post was edited on 1/3/22 at 9:40 am
Posted on 1/3/22 at 5:28 am to Colonel Ingus
I will say that credit to the Aggies if the multi year contract stuff is correct.
That's just good business. If I'm a high school kid signing an nli I jack the absolute shite out of my price for it though lose a lot of future earnings from the portal that way
That's just good business. If I'm a high school kid signing an nli I jack the absolute shite out of my price for it though lose a lot of future earnings from the portal that way
Posted on 1/3/22 at 5:36 am to Stidham8
IMO, the NIL money will get balanced out by the transfer portal. If you have all of the 5 stars, you aren't going to be able to keep them all happy with playing time, so many will leave. Big egos will start ripping your program apart.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 5:42 am to Colonel Ingus
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We proved we could beat Bama
Posted on 1/3/22 at 5:46 am to paperwasp
Unless the scoreboard lies
Posted on 1/3/22 at 6:01 am to Colonel Ingus
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Unless the scoreboard lies
Of course Texas A&M won the game.
But I’m not sure anything was “proven” as a result, based on the context of this season as a whole (for both teams).
Posted on 1/3/22 at 6:17 am to Stidham8
If you think A&M is about to go on a run like Bama, then you are going to be greatly disappointed.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 6:21 am to Stidham8
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A&M is about to be an absolute force. Get the jokes in while you can I guess
We’ve heard this every offseason for one reason or another for 10 years. The recruits are going to get on campus and either A. Leave because of the gay culture and ugly girls or B. Wash out because Jimbo is going to lose control of the program just like he did with FSU and end up with a bunch of convicts on his hands
Posted on 1/3/22 at 6:22 am to paperwasp
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We proved we could beat Bama but it’s another thing to do it consistently.
That’s basically what I said.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 7:18 am to Colonel Ingus
A&M already had the network set up to take advantage of NIL. Although the Sooner account is an absolute farce something similar is possible with very little effort that doesn’t go through the school other than the records that must be kept of every deal. Every graduate of A&M knows about the Aggie Network - Aggies take care of other Aggies. Always been that way.
Easy to incorporate that into NIL if you think about it. Hell, I still remember when I was young getting a job I wasn’t quite qualified for simply because of the ring on my finger. And with the size of the network continuing to grow every year the NIL opportunities at A&M are huge. And every year we put more and more graduates into the workforce, significantly more than Texas at this point. A&M is one of the largest and richest Universities in the World - by a long shot
An example of the network in action - last week there were fires in Colorado that burned down neighborhoods. In Colorado, not Texas. One of those that lost their house was a pregnant Aggie couple that is due in a few weeks and lost everything. Friends posted about it on TexAgs, and in less than twenty four hours more than $30K had been raised to help the young couple that lost their house with a baby on the way. That was just a post on the “pay” side of TexAgs … not even the free side which is much, much larger
Heard our NIL presentation is something to witness. But unlike Texas we don’t go advertising to the World what we can do. We aren’t even doing crowdfunding like some of these other sites … yet
Easy to incorporate that into NIL if you think about it. Hell, I still remember when I was young getting a job I wasn’t quite qualified for simply because of the ring on my finger. And with the size of the network continuing to grow every year the NIL opportunities at A&M are huge. And every year we put more and more graduates into the workforce, significantly more than Texas at this point. A&M is one of the largest and richest Universities in the World - by a long shot
An example of the network in action - last week there were fires in Colorado that burned down neighborhoods. In Colorado, not Texas. One of those that lost their house was a pregnant Aggie couple that is due in a few weeks and lost everything. Friends posted about it on TexAgs, and in less than twenty four hours more than $30K had been raised to help the young couple that lost their house with a baby on the way. That was just a post on the “pay” side of TexAgs … not even the free side which is much, much larger
Heard our NIL presentation is something to witness. But unlike Texas we don’t go advertising to the World what we can do. We aren’t even doing crowdfunding like some of these other sites … yet
This post was edited on 1/3/22 at 7:29 am
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