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re: There are (still) only 12 teams that can win a football natty

Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:14 am to
Posted by DawgTired
Member since Jul 2018
756 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:14 am to
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Wake me up when a team that hasn’t won a national title in my lifetime (or since ‘78) spends a bunch of money and does so


Texas A&M might be getting ready to wake you.
Posted by Tigerpro2a
Huntsville, AL
Member since Sep 2018
631 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:18 am to
Hmm Auburn has won a natty and played for another since Oklahoma
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66043 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:19 am to
A&M can absolutely win a title this year, they have something like an 82% blue chip ratio.

A&M has been building a real contender for awhile now, they just haven't had the right coach.

Them winning would be vastly different than someone like Indiana or Ole Miss winning.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
61915 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:24 am to
Well this is stupidity
Posted by Sooner a Reb
Maryland
Member since Jan 2017
2107 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:27 am to
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Hmm Auburn has won a natty and played for another since Oklahoma

Yeah, and that was a one off, with a one off player. Auburn hasn't even sniffed relevancy in 10 years. Pushing the sixth straight losing season, and 69 losses since 2014. Gimme a break.
Posted by TGarza
Member since Aug 2017
36 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:50 am to
quote:

Auburn made the final game in 2013 after winning 3 games the year before, pre-NIL


Auburn had an NIL for Cam. It wasn’t sanctioned by the NCAA. ?? That is why I am surprised Auburn and Freeze struggled to win games in the Nil era.

Oklahoma was a dumpster fire before Stoops and quickly won a championship after he was hired.
Posted by TexasWranglers
Member since Sep 2024
1332 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:53 am to
Was going to say the same thing.
Posted by Insurancerebel
Madison
Member since Aug 2021
2781 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:55 am to
quote:

Alabama
LSU
Florida
Texas
Georgia
Tennessee
Oregon
Auburn
Ohio State
Michigan
USC
Miami


Modern era this is not the case.

remove Florida, LSU, Auburn and USC. Add Texas Tech, Mizzu, Indiana and OM. They have shown they will play the game and let the coach run the show.

Auburn and LSU just vomit all over the place in the modern era.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5267 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:56 am to
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Yeah, the difference was some programs refused to use that money to cheat or cheat on the level of the powerhouse programs.

Not even what I was talking about.

You think top tier coaching salaries and facilities are cheap?
quote:

You are quite naive to think NIL & portal aren’t going to shift the CF landscape immensely over the coming years.

The big dogs are still going to eat.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5267 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 10:06 am to
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Texas A&M might be getting ready to wake you.

We will see.

A large college in the heart of Texas recruiting doesn’t really move the needle, though. Even teams like BYU, Colorado, and Georgia Tech managed national titles long before NIL and all that jazz.

When programs that historically suck and don’t have a lot of natural resources for football start consistently dominating, then I will pay attention.

Money has mattered for a long time, folks. The same teams are still going to be at the forefront. NIL or not.
Posted by STL1
STL
Member since Feb 2018
72 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 10:18 am to
Maybe to some extent, but explain Indiana now. Some programs did not want to cheat or cheat at a high level with all of their money pre-NIL. You can build nice facilities, high-paid coaches & big marketing depts but if you were not willing to take that money & kick it back to players &/or player's family under the table, you were not competing with the schools willing to cheat. Not to mention the legacy cheats have a leg up on the other schools. It will take time for NIL to have it's full impact. We are already seeing parody. Sure, the OSU, Bama, GA, etc. are still at the top, but we are early on & it will take time to catch up the traditional CF powers. You are dumb if you think CF is going to remain top-heavy with brand names.
This post was edited on 11/13/25 at 10:20 am
Posted by Zgeo
Baja Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2021
3014 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 10:22 am to
Bama Georgia Texas Ohios st Oklahoma


That is it
Posted by STL1
STL
Member since Feb 2018
72 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 10:22 am to
And those schools had a brand-name & were cheating arse's willing to pay players under the table. It's not like they built a nicer practice facility & hired a coach & got better. It was a battle of the 'bluebloods', bidding war for 5-stars for under the table cash. I'm sure the aforementioned coaches are well versed in paying players pre-NIL.
This post was edited on 11/13/25 at 10:23 am
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66043 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 10:24 am to
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And those schools had a brand-name & were cheating arse's willing to pay players under the table. It's not like they built a nicer practice facility & hired a coach & got better. It was a battle of the 'bluebloods', bidding war for 5-stars for under the table cash. I'm sure aforementioned coaches are well versed in paying players pre-NIL.


This is a bunch of excuses.

You either spend the money to compete or you don't.

Nothing has changed.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66043 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 10:26 am to
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Maybe to some extent, but explain Indiana now. 


There have always been non power programs that hired good coaches and had good teams.

The only difference is now you think that's because of NIL, when it's actually been happening forever.
Posted by EZOU
Member since Apr 2024
288 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 10:30 am to
It’s about paying players legally. That’s it. Nothing else.
Posted by EZOU
Member since Apr 2024
288 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 10:36 am to
Of course the cheats want to say it’s an excuse.

You’re too dense to understand what is happening. Anyone with a brain sees it. Keep on thinking it’s the pre-NIL days. It’s not!
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66043 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 10:37 am to
quote:

Of course the cheats want to say it’s an excuse.

You’re too dense to understand what is happening. Anyone with a brain sees it. Keep on thinking it’s the pre-NIL days. It’s not!


Cope and seethe.

Give one piece of evidence that indicates things are "different" now.
Posted by Magnificent
Member since Nov 2025
100 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 10:40 am to
quote:

There are (still) only 12 teams that can win a football natty
quote:

Tennessee

Not this year we are not.

With our defense? We will be lucky if we beat Florida and Vanderbilt, much less play for a national championship. .
This post was edited on 11/13/25 at 10:42 am
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100025 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 10:52 am to
quote:

Auburn


Lol
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