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re: The whole "pods" format...

Posted on 12/28/21 at 11:21 am to
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 12/28/21 at 11:21 am to
quote:

If you do 3 permanent teams,


Nm...I see what you are talking about.
This post was edited on 12/28/21 at 11:23 am
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22371 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 11:22 am to
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At some point the SEC needs to let go of some of these rivalries


That's just not realistic. Might as well be talking about making a good path for Vandy to win the SEC.

But even with the rivalry games, I do not see the draw of the pod system.

Posted by BigB123
Texas
Member since Dec 2018
985 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 11:23 am to
Yup
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 11:24 am to
I still like moving Bama and Aub to the east and keeping divisions...all problems solved.

But I don't think it will happen.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22371 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 11:24 am to
quote:


Like a pod...


No, a pod means you only play those teams in your pod. And it has to be 4 permanent teams.

If you assign each team their own permanent games, they can be different. There is no fake associate being thrown on teams.

For example, Alabama will play Auburn and Tennessee.
Auburn will play Alabama and Georgia. In a pod system, you would be forcing Alabama to play Georgia as well.

However when it comes to Georgia, they will play Auburn and Florida.

And Tennessee will play Alabama and Vandy.

With a pod system, these things are not possible.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22371 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 11:26 am to
quote:


I still like moving Bama and Aub to the east and keeping divisions...all problems solved.

But I don't think it will happen.


Divisions and pods have the same flaw of AQ status based on arbitrary groupings.

The good thing about the rival games + rotating most games is that in the SEC championship you don't give anyone AQ status, you just take the best 2 teams.

Posted by Sub Par SUPERSTAR
Florida
Member since Sep 2021
822 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 11:28 am to
quote:

I still like moving Bama and Aub to the east and keeping divisions...all problems solved.

But I don't think it will happen


I admittedly don't know all the inner workings, but I don't know why that doesn't work. I'd gladly give up a paycheck game to make it work.
This post was edited on 12/28/21 at 11:29 am
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64415 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 11:29 am to
quote:

It's impossible to put teams in pods while maintaining all the rivalries.

I also don't know how you have 4 divisions and then determine which two teams play in the SECCG. With 16 teams and 4 divisions, tie-breakers would be a nightmare with how different the schedules would be. The schedule imbalances could also be a problem when you have 4 "division champs" all with the same record. I think the best solution is to keep two divisions and play a 9 or 10 game SEC schedule. IMO, we never should have expanded again. 16 teams is just too many for one conference.
Posted by Sub Par SUPERSTAR
Florida
Member since Sep 2021
822 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 11:31 am to
quote:

I also don't know how you have 4 divisions and then determine which two teams play in the SECCG.


I heard they'd do semifinals, which sounds disgusting.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15358 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 11:32 am to
quote:

No, a pod means you only play those teams in your pod. And it has to be 4 permanent teams.



Yup and then you have Bama, AU, UGA and Tenn in one pod and LSU will end up in a pod with MSU, Ole Miss and Kentucky or some shite
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64415 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 11:32 am to
quote:

I heard they'd do semifinals, which sounds disgusting.

Yeah that's just silly. A 2 round playoff to get into another 2 round playoff. So we would have gone from needing to win 2 games after the regular season for a national title to basically needing to win 4. No thanks
This post was edited on 12/28/21 at 11:34 am
Posted by TouchdownTony
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
9636 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 11:39 am to
The pod thing isn't happening. Not until further expansion.

West
Mizzou
A&m
LSU
state
Ole miss
Okie
Texas
Arkie

East
Auburn
Bama
Uga
Florida
Vandy
Kentucky
Tennessee
South Carolina

9 sec games.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79879 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 11:43 am to
4 4-team pods work well if done properly and if you have 9 conference games.

3 games vs. teams in your pod.
2 games vs. teams in each other pod.

If you protect certain rivalries like the PAC 12 does, you can rotate the other games.

Example

Pod 1: t.u., Oklahoma, Missouri, Arkansas
Pod 2: Texas A&M, LSU, Mississippi State, Ole Miss
Pod 3: Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Alabama, Auburn
Pod 4: Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Kentucky

You protect the following games:

Texas A&M/t.u.
LSU/Alabama
Ole Miss/Tennessee
Auburn/Georgia

Then you rotate the rest
Posted by TouchdownTony
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
9636 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 11:46 am to
"At some point the SEC needs to let go of some of these rivalries"

They are. Bama won't play state, ole miss, a&m and LSU every year. There are very few things left that made college football great. Rivalries are the biggest one and bama-aub, uga-au, bama-ut, Florida- Georgia, Florida-auburn are the biggest in the sec. Those stadiums are electric those days beyond words. If u haven't been I can't describe it to you.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
98648 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 11:47 am to
quote:

There are four historic rivalries that drive the scheduling process:

Bama/Auburn
Bama/UT
Auburn/UGA
UGA/UF


A pod comprised of Bama, Auburn, UGA, and UF keeps most of those intact.
Posted by Sub Par SUPERSTAR
Florida
Member since Sep 2021
822 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 11:51 am to
quote:

A pod comprised of Bama, Auburn, UGA, and UF keeps most of those intact.

The idea of semifinal SEC games is stupid. And that pod you created is absurd.
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 11:51 am to
quote:

Aub/GA
Bama/Tenn


Never. Georgia and Auburn have been playing since 1892.

The longest-running rivalries in major college football based on number of meetings:

131 meetings- Wisconsin vs. Minnesota (since Nov. 1890)
126 meetings- Georgia vs. Auburn (since Feb 1892)
126 meetings- Virginia vs. N. Carolina (since Oct 1892)
125 meetings- Cincinnati vs. Miami (OH) (since Dec 1888)
125 meetings- Oregon vs. Oregon St. (since Nov. 1894)
124 meetings- Stanford vs. Cal (since Mar 1892)
123 meetings- Purdue vs. Indiana (since Nov. 1891)
122 meetings- Army vs. Navy (since Nov 1890)
120 meetings- Kansas vs. Kansas St. (since Oct 1902)

The next closest SEC rivalry is the Egg Bowl with just 118 meetings. You can't get rid of this type of tradition... its literally the game that started all of this for the South.

Bama-Tennessee used to be THE rivalry for the SEC. Yes, its lopsided now, but you can't get rid of history. Bama's dominance over Tennessee won't last forever.

quote:

Aub/FL


This one has already been cancelled, basically as a result of letting in a couple of impostors back in the early '90s.
This post was edited on 12/28/21 at 11:54 am
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
33826 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 11:52 am to
quote:

There are very few things left that made college football great


Fewer and fewer every year. Who cares?

Texas and A&M
Mizzou and Kansas

two rivalries that ended with SEC expansion last time and the world kept turning. it’s hilarious that Bama fans, whose program has basically single handedly destroyed everything great about college football and pushed it to NFL-light, wants to cling to some mythical rivalry as an excuse to keep an easier schedule and avoid any further change

even their own fricking rivalry isn’t played on the date the rivalry is named after anymore change happens, get over it

with CFP expansion, there is no need for rivalries, conference championship games, etc. win games make the playoffs that’s all players, fanbases, and media care about anymore
This post was edited on 12/28/21 at 11:58 am
Posted by MetairieMan
Houston
Member since Dec 2016
27 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 11:52 am to
With the CFP expansion those things don't matter anymore.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
98648 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 11:53 am to
quote:

that pod you created is absurd.


Hence the

You must be a little soft in the head.
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