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re: The Third Saturday in October still matters!

Posted on 10/22/12 at 3:14 pm to
Posted by TCBRTR
Memphis
Member since Apr 2012
67 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 3:14 pm to
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LSU vs. Texas A&M (buried at 11 a.m. in favor of TSIO): 2.8

TSIO, ESPN Primetime: 2.6

MOTHERfrickING BOOM


So it's all about ratings? You've been bought.

2.8-2.6 isn't much of a gap. What if UT has been in the top 20, as LSU and A&M? UT is down, but not out...
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2395 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 3:16 pm to
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Whoever did the informal poll, go back and ask if they're familiar with Alabama vs Tennessee rivalry. TTSIO title is insignificant. It's the rivalry game between the two most prestigious SEC schools. I don't expect people outside the south to know the significance of the physical date, but I guarantee you they know of that particular game.
Hate to break it to you, but outside Tenessee and Alabama, no one cares. I was born in 1966 and don't think I even saw this game on television until after the 1984 Supreme Court ruling the deregulated college football. It seems like this rivalry rarely matches up teams that are strong at the same time, and given the date that it is played on, it does not decide the conference championship the way that some season ending rivalry games tend to (the Iron Bowl is more meaningful in that context).
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
36438 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 3:16 pm to
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go back and ask if they're familiar with Alabama vs Tennessee rivalry


they wont

to the nation, Alabama and Auburn are rivals...TTSIO is second tier
Posted by 10888bge
H-Town
Member since Aug 2011
8421 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 3:17 pm to
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Wow. Oldest=Better? Not necessarily.

Nope those are just the Rivalires that are older where a current SEC team participates. Notice that there are a few that will no longer be played. TSIO isn't a rivalry that anyone outside of UT & UA care about.
Take for example, RRR and Bedlam series. More people will watch those games because they are better rivalries also the UT. v. A&M rivalry. It has been played much longer and even though UT has Owned A&M arse over the course of it, that rivalry is still better. TSIO and Egg Bowl no one cares about.
Out of all the more obscure rivalries DSOR is probably the most recognized.
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2395 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 3:19 pm to
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Link for the ratings please?


Houston Chronicle
Posted by 10888bge
H-Town
Member since Aug 2011
8421 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 3:22 pm to
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2.8-2.6 isn't much of a gap

Absolutely correct. To bad my "Boom" is not solely based on ratings.
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What if UT has been in the top 20, as LSU and A&M? UT is down, but not out

If if ands and buts were chocolate and nuts every day would be Christmas.
Thats the point. That series has rarely been equal. ever.
The Point is Bama was in Prime time and LSU got the weak time slot. TSIO should have been a 4+ if that rivalry was important.
Posted by Sgt Barnes
Murfreesboro
Member since Jul 2011
821 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 3:24 pm to
All of the rivalries listed above are better than TSIO. The only reason TSIO is going to stay put is that UA is a participant.
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UG v. GT 106 games.

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A&M v. Baylor 108 games

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Mizz v. Jayhawk 120 games


Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
20967 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 3:25 pm to
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2.8-2.6 isn't much of a gap. What if UT has been in the top 20, as LSU and A&M? UT is down, but not out...


You don't think the gap would have been bigger if the times were reversed.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
36438 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 3:29 pm to
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Sgt Barnes


you are laughing, but the main argument for why this game should be played is because its "been played for X amount of years"

tradition =/= rivalry, and sometimes traditions end or change...thats what happens when the SEC decides to expand

the fact that you are laughing at other rivalries just proves what most people believe...I bet UGA/GT and Missouri/Kansas fans would laugh at TTSIO if you told them you thought TTSIO is better than their rivalry

TTSIO is only important to Alabama and Tennessee fans, period. You can laugh and debate otherwise, but its the truth. No one cared or said anything before because it never affected anything...but now this game and Auburn-UGA are directly messing with the entire SEC schedule

so if the SEC wont do anything about an alternative, the game has to be played OOC or removed

This post was edited on 10/22/12 at 3:33 pm
Posted by TCBRTR
Memphis
Member since Apr 2012
67 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 3:30 pm to
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they wont

to the nation, Alabama and Auburn are rivals...TTSIO is second tier


Well, that's a shame. It's a great rivalry with some fantastic games that mean a lot to college football and created many legends of the game. Since it will always be on the schedule, I guess those who feel it's a second tier rivalry are just going to have to

Posted by 10888bge
H-Town
Member since Aug 2011
8421 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 3:36 pm to
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Sgt Barnes

3 SEC rivalry games off the top of my head better than TSIO.
1. Iron Bowl
2. UGA v. Florida
3. AU v. Georgia

Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
20967 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 3:36 pm to
Well if Auburn isn't your rival...why not ship Auburn east and move Tennessee to the west?
Posted by Sgt Barnes
Murfreesboro
Member since Jul 2011
821 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 3:37 pm to
I'm laughing because it doesn't matter how long the series has been. That's never been my argument. Really haven't had an argument other than it's a rivalry. Both teams are tops in the league in all-time wins/conference championships and hate one another. That's all I need to know to qualify for a rivalry. I don't give a shite if limp dick Boise St. fan or whoever knows or not. Tennessee is down. Bama has been down before. Even when both teams have had good teams at the same time, the steaks against one another continued. Hey, I'm with you. I'd love to expand the schedule and play Bama as an OCC. I'd be willing to bet that the schedule will expand in the near future and this will be a mute point.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
150107 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 3:37 pm to
Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
20967 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 3:38 pm to
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mute point.


moot.
Posted by Sgt Barnes
Murfreesboro
Member since Jul 2011
821 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 3:38 pm to
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3 SEC rivalry games off the top of my head better than TSIO.
Good for you. They are great rivalries that I would have on par with TSIO.
Posted by Sgt Barnes
Murfreesboro
Member since Jul 2011
821 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 3:40 pm to
Got ya
Posted by TCBRTR
Memphis
Member since Apr 2012
67 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 3:40 pm to
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Both teams are tops in the league in all-time wins/conference championships and hate one another. That's all I need to know to qualify for a rivalry.


Ahem. Go. Vol.



Posted by 10888bge
H-Town
Member since Aug 2011
8421 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 3:43 pm to
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Good for you. They are great rivalries that I would have on par with TSIO.


All get better rating and have more people outside the respected states interested in them. Your opinion does not count.

PS not going digging for the ratings and overnights for those games historically.
This post was edited on 10/22/12 at 3:44 pm
Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
20967 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 3:47 pm to
I'd rather watch Auburn/Alabama (regardless of ranking and record) than Alabama/Tennessee or Georgia/Auburn. But I'm not a fan of any of these schools. So it is easy for me to say.
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