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re: The Playoff System Is Broken

Posted on 11/12/24 at 10:45 pm to
Posted by BZ504
Texas
Member since Oct 2005
13459 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 10:45 pm to
14 teams, top 2 conference champs get byes. I think this happens as soon as next season or they go to 16 teams.
Posted by 49 to nada
In aggy and gooner heads, rent free
Member since Sep 2023
5452 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 10:49 pm to
Doesn't matter which teams get in, there will be at least 3-4 crybaby fanbases that didn't get in who KNOW (not think, they are sure of it) they would have beaten [insert team] that beats [insert team they don't like or think is undeserving] and that's the only thing we can count on.

And no, this won't change expanding to 16. Hell, even if they make it like Texas high school football these days where every district (conference in our case) gets a set number of teams in the playoffs no matter what...there will be fanbases of some shitty 5 win team who think they should be in.
Posted by Bryceunderwoodbaby
hook pig em suuiiiii rocky top
Member since Nov 2024
48 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 11:08 pm to
quote:

there will be at least 3-4 crybaby fanbases that didn't get in who KNOW (not think, they are sure of it) they would have beaten [insert team] that beats [insert team they don't like or think is undeserving] and that's the only thing we can count on.


There will be Iowa state who KNOWS (not think, they are sure of it) they would have beaten Nebraska who beats Colorado and that’s the only thing we can count on.

(Btw Colorado almost a lock for the playoffs if byu continues to look sketchy)
Posted by Zgeo
Baja Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2021
3507 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 11:16 pm to
Just take the top 12 ranked SEC teams for the CFP….
Posted by bamaoldtimer
Member since Dec 2009
1753 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 5:13 am to
The system is designed by Disney to maximize advertising revenue.

A true playoff is impossible as college football is currently structured.

I don’t want NFL college ball.

What makes college ball fun is the arguments for and against teams and their legitimacy for making the playoff.

Everything is fine. Relax

These are the teams in the last 50 years to win a Natty.
Alabama
Michigan
Ohio state
Tennessee
Florida state
Miami
ND
USC
Texas
OU
Georgia
Auburn
LSU
Florida
Mich St.
Nebraska

So, if we formed a 16 team league and played for a championship with these teams, then we’d be close to a true playoff.

Obviously won’t happen

So again, Relax
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
4946 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 7:35 am to
quote:

You spoiled cry baby Bama fricks need to suck it up and learn that you aren't entitled to playing in the playoffs every year.


Yes, we are. Every now and then, out of pity, we will take a year off and allow some lower school to take our place.

Unfortunately for A&M, we don’t pity gheys all that much.
Posted by BobLeeDagger
In Your Head
Member since May 2016
7467 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 8:31 am to
BCS + 12 team playoff
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
21881 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 9:05 am to
quote:

This is the right answer.

Disagree.

Just use the final poll and seed in accordance with that. That said, I do wish they'd bring back a computer component to the CFP human polling as a morr objective weight to the final rankings

If G5 cry about, tell them to kick rocks. Or, create an NIT version of a secondary playoffs.
This post was edited on 11/13/24 at 9:07 am
Posted by RollingwiththeTide62
Member since Aug 2024
4057 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 9:52 am to
My problem is committee not putting Miami byu Indiana behind the sec powers
Posted by southpawcock
Member since Oct 2015
17657 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 9:56 am to
A 3-loss SEC team would likely be better than everyone in the playoffs aside from the other SEC teams, and maybe a couple B1G teams. Of course, depends on the particular 3-loss team, but I do feel like the way we are playing now we could knock off some of the other likely playoff teams.

I do not foresee many, if any, 3 loss teams ever making the playoffs.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
45573 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 10:01 am to
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My problem is committee not putting Miami byu Indiana behind the sec powers


It’s an insult. Even if the AQ gives them a higher seed like with BYU there’s no possible explanation as to why they and Indiana jumped Tennessee. The only reason would be Nico’s injury but they flat denied that and claimed BYUs sketchy arse win and IUs win were somehow better than beating state by more without your starter.
Posted by RollingwiththeTide62
Member since Aug 2024
4057 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 10:03 am to
Absolutely the committee is tranny at best
Posted by GreatPumpkin
Member since Mar 2022
3243 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 10:05 am to
I agree. Greater emphasis should be placed on who you’ve beaten as opposed to simply avoiding losses. They are incentivizing cup cake schedules by the criteria they currently use
Posted by bamaoldtimer
Member since Dec 2009
1753 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 10:07 am to
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I’m in the minority, but all P5 should have had at least the CG winner in the P/O.

Now, what that format would look like, *shrug shoulders*


Dec 7th Conference CG Weekend
SEC. Texas vs Tennessee Winner. Texas
Big 10. Oregon vs Ohio State. Winner. Ohio State
ACC. Miami. Vs Clemson. Winner. Clemson
Big 12. BYU. Vs. Colorado. Winner. Colorado
At large 1. ND
At large 2 Bama
At large 3 Indiana
At large 4 g4 pick. (Boise)

At large picked by fans with voting for 24 hours

Dec 20th weekend
sec, big10, Acc, big 12 champs get byes
Sec 2 vs at large 4. Tennessee vs Boise Winner TN
Big 10 2 vs at large 3. . Oregon vs Indiana winner Oregon
Acc 2 vs. at large 2. Miami. Vs Bama. Winner. Bama
Big 12 2. Vs at large 1. BYU Vs. ND Winner. BYU

New Year’s Day Bowls
Conference Champs play winners of quarterfinals
So,
Texas vs at large 1 winner. BYU. Rose bowl
Ohio St. Vs at large 2 winner Bama. Sugar bowl
Clemson vs at large winner 3. Oregon. Orange bowl
Colorado. Vs at large winner 4. Tennessee fiesta bowl

Semi’s two weeks later. 2nd weekend Jan

Sugar bowl. Texas vs Ohio st
Orange Bowl. Oregon vs Tennessee

Natty. 3rd weekend Jan

Rose Bowl

Texas vs Oregon Winner. Texas

The big difference in my scenario is it keeps the importance of playing in the Conference CC games. Winning the CCG gets you a bye. Losing gets you a spot at the table. Gets the fans involved like voting in baseball for All Star teams. Committee seeds the tournament to hopefully get best matchups.

I’m tired after all that.

Hope my post sparks some discussion. Sorry for being so long winded.



Posted by RollingwiththeTide62
Member since Aug 2024
4057 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 10:27 am to
No fan votes corrupt
Posted by RollingwiththeTide62
Member since Aug 2024
4057 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 10:35 am to
The new system is awesome perfect the only thing is the committee has to put the best teams over the teams with better records, give them the help they need if necessary-a direct line to Vegas oddsmakers
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
21881 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 10:48 am to
quote:

My problem is committee not putting Miami byu Indiana behind the sec powers

I'd add PSU to that list.
Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
3983 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 11:27 am to
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Then, instead of 1 SEC Championship Game.. SEC Playoff Championship Weekend.


Or the SEC could just add 2 more regular season conference games instead of the 2 bullshite cupcake games and the regular season champion gets the auto-bid to the playoff.
Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
3983 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 11:33 am to
quote:

Does anyone really want to watch Boise St or BYU vs UGA/Bama to determine who the title winner is?


Does anyone really want to watch UGA/Bama or any combo of SEC/Big 10 teams play for a 3rd time in a playoff (a possibility under the current system)?
Posted by Landmass
Premium Member
Member since Jun 2013
25412 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 11:36 am to
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I like that conference champs get in.


I don't. UCLA won the PAC 12 one year with a 7 win record. They may "deserve" the conference title, but there's no way they would deserve to steal a playoff spot.
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