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re: The Playoff System Is Broken
Posted on 11/12/24 at 8:17 pm to BasedCrimson
Posted on 11/12/24 at 8:17 pm to BasedCrimson
4 teams, use BCS formula. That is the only answer. Anything else is communist.
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Posted on 11/12/24 at 8:20 pm to BasedCrimson
This system won’t last long when sec and big ten aren’t rewarded for playing much tougher schedules
Posted on 11/12/24 at 8:22 pm to remaster916
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The Big Ten and SEC needs to expand to 24 teams and have their own 16 team playoffs.
No they don't because the SEC will still get screwed in the end with the B1G's cupcake schedule and weaker conference.
The issue is the agenda against the SEC where they expect us to play each other and beat each other up but give the B1G and others a pass always citing they play their schedule.
Penn State hasn't beaten a ranked team
BYU has beaten one ranked team
Indiana hasn't played a ranked team
OSU has only beaten Penn State
Texas lost to the only ranked team they played
Miami hasn't played a ranked team, almost lost three games, finally lost one and STILL is ranked 9th
This is absolutely bullshite. Yet we in the SEC (not Texas) have to play three or more rough matchups and we are punished for it.
Why even schedule tough? From now on the SEC should just have the best three or four teams avoid each other and match up as minimal as possible like the B1G, ACC and B12 have done
Posted on 11/12/24 at 8:26 pm to Hugh McElroy
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I have no idea why it wasn't a 16 team playoff from the beginning.
Because you can't name a season in the past 40 years in which more than 4 teams have a legit claim to playing for a national title. If you look at the trajectory of the FCS titles, the champ is a higher and higher seed over time, regardless of the size of the playoff. It's not hard to figure out who the best teams are each year.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 8:50 pm to GeauxBurrow312
I’m just saying 2 things:
1 - The old format was flawed having 4 slots for 5 groups (& allowing some groups take 2 of the 4)
2 - Answer “which conference is better?” on the field. But if 1 of those conferences isn’t represented, that can’t be answered honestly.
1 - The old format was flawed having 4 slots for 5 groups (& allowing some groups take 2 of the 4)
2 - Answer “which conference is better?” on the field. But if 1 of those conferences isn’t represented, that can’t be answered honestly.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 8:56 pm to POTUS2024
Thats usually true. This year I could not tell you definitively who the best 4 teams were outside of Oregon and OSU. So much inconsistency in teams showing up to play every week.
Seems to be more parity than ever, and not sure that will change with NIL and portal distributing talent all over. Expanded playoffs makes sense if they are going to let kids pack their bags and get a paycheck to start for a different team each year
If they are going to do auto bids, it should be 16 teams. The SEC will have around 6-7 of the top 12 teams in any given year, its bullshite to leave deserving teams out for teams who just feast on cupcakes
Seems to be more parity than ever, and not sure that will change with NIL and portal distributing talent all over. Expanded playoffs makes sense if they are going to let kids pack their bags and get a paycheck to start for a different team each year
If they are going to do auto bids, it should be 16 teams. The SEC will have around 6-7 of the top 12 teams in any given year, its bullshite to leave deserving teams out for teams who just feast on cupcakes
Posted on 11/12/24 at 8:56 pm to Dr RC
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You spoiled cry baby Bama fricks need to suck it up and learn that you aren't entitled to playing in the playoffs every year.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 8:57 pm to BasedCrimson
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BasedCrimson
Well, Based, it has happened. I agree 100% and you had a great post.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 8:57 pm to POTUS2024
So last year FSU @ 13-0 & the ACC champ wasn’t worthy of a slot?
Would you have ignored the PAC, B1G, XII, or SEC champ @ 13-0?
Would you have ignored the PAC, B1G, XII, or SEC champ @ 13-0?
Posted on 11/12/24 at 8:59 pm to WaydownSouth
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The conference championships should strictly be for a bye.
If you lose, you stay put. If you win, you earn the bye
For example.
Alabama stays Ranked10th. Plays 3rd Texas.
Texas wins by 2 TDs. Alabama should stay put.
If Alabama wins, they get the bye, Texas stays at 3
your forgetting Bama isnt in the sec champ game Tenn would be....and they beat you already lol that would be the correct example.
This post was edited on 11/12/24 at 9:00 pm
Posted on 11/12/24 at 9:08 pm to Dr RC
quote:Yes, especially when you have conferences that game the system.
You spoiled cry baby Bama fricks need to suck it up and learn that you aren't entitled to playing in the playoffs every year.
What if a conference devised a schedule so the better teams never played each other, and what if they had multiple undefeated teams every year, and what if those teams were at the top of the rankings every year, and what if the playoff system was a reflection of the polls that rewarded teams for never playing each other in conference games, and it happened again and again.
Why it would be unfair, blasphemy, a sham.
And what if one of them won a National Championship, and then another one, and another, and what if they started paying for players, so they could keep on winning, and what if it got to the point that they were the only one’s winning championships.
And what if all stopped.
Oh, the horror!
Posted on 11/12/24 at 9:14 pm to WaydownSouth
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The conference championships should strictly be for a bye.
Who knows how the CFP will handle that? I have a feeling they will not punish championship game losers as much as people are expecting.
I don't think they should remain seeded the same, but I also don't believe, in most circumstances, a team in the playoffs before the championship should get knocked out if they lose
Posted on 11/12/24 at 9:19 pm to BigBro
In the end, they will put in who they want to be in. And come up with some lousy excuse why they voted that way.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 9:22 pm to BasedCrimson
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Next, you have all of the bullshite surrounding conference championship games. I don't think anyone wants to play in one of these games.
Why do they even have them? Just.... let the number one team be the number one team. Whomever wins the conference is the conference champion. As it stands now... the SEC could conceivable have LSU make the championship game... somehow win it and get a 1st round bye in the playoffs, where they would then proceed to likely get whipped. Meanwhile, another more deserving SEC team gets left out. That's fine for basketball... they don't have byes and there are enough teams in the tournament to provide cover for such scenarios.
Just do away with that nonsense and have the winner of the regular season be the conference champion.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 9:25 pm to MtVernon
I don't understand why we don't do a 128-team playoff. Or at least 64.
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Too many games. As we know from March Madness, 64 teams need 6 games to win. 128 team tourney teams would need to win 7 games. To me, 16 teams is ideal, 4 games to win for every team.
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Too many games. As we know from March Madness, 64 teams need 6 games to win. 128 team tourney teams would need to win 7 games. To me, 16 teams is ideal, 4 games to win for every team.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 9:26 pm to MemphisGuy
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Why do they even have them?
FOX and ESPN:
Posted on 11/12/24 at 9:28 pm to BasedCrimson
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The biggest problem we have in cfb today is that everything is STILL based on the loss column.
It will be interesting to see if a change is coming in this regard?
Also, to see if this year's final playoff football rankings shakes things up a bit by digging more into quality wins?
No one really bats an eye when a NCAA Basketball #2 seed has 3 more loses than a #6 seed because we're all used to the most important column being Quality Wins.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 9:45 pm to Dr RC
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You spoiled cry baby Bama fricks need to suck it up and learn that you aren't entitled to playing in the playoffs every year.
Be patient
Posted on 11/12/24 at 10:02 pm to TN Tygah
May I show you a team in and their schedule?
Nevada Wolf Pack
San Diego State Aztecs
UNLV Rebels
Hawaii Rainbow Warriors
Utah State Aggies
Washington State Cougars
Portland State Vikings
Oregon Ducks
Georgia Southern Eagles
San Jose State Spartans
Wyoming Cowboys
Oregon State Beavers
Only 2 of the teams they played is/was ranked. Oregon and they lost to them. Yet they are in with a schedule like that.
It's BS.
Nevada Wolf Pack
San Diego State Aztecs
UNLV Rebels
Hawaii Rainbow Warriors
Utah State Aggies
Washington State Cougars
Portland State Vikings
Oregon Ducks
Georgia Southern Eagles
San Jose State Spartans
Wyoming Cowboys
Oregon State Beavers
Only 2 of the teams they played is/was ranked. Oregon and they lost to them. Yet they are in with a schedule like that.
It's BS.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 10:39 pm to southernboisb
quote:Well since you beat said team by 60, I’d say a definite no.
So last year FSU @ 13-0 & the ACC champ wasn’t worthy of a slot?
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