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The End of College Football As We Know It

Posted on 5/6/20 at 2:40 pm
Posted by DunwoodyReb
Member since Dec 2016
13 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 2:40 pm
Is it just me or does it feel like covid-19 is the beginning of the end? I believe SOME players deserve to be paid (Cam Newton, Joe Burrow types). I don't agree with Walk-Ons and 3rd string players getting paid though. Once the players keep gaining more rights, more issues will arise and cause internal disfunction within Athletic Departments. As an Ole Miss fan, I obviously hate the NCAA. But I do see their logic that paying amateur athletes will ruin college football. Do you care more about enjoying the game like we always have or having the spirit/attitude of college football become non-existent? There's a reason why college football is better than the NFL.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
43977 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 2:43 pm to
COVID-19 will change many things.
That’s the story of humankind.

I don’t disagree that cfb will experience changes.
Some will be for the better; others won’t.

Adapt, improvise, and overcome.

Posted by GoGators04
Member since Oct 2019
370 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 2:44 pm to
All I’ll say is, the last thing I want in college football is an Antonio Brown, you know a guy who’s thinks he’s entitled and is always worth more money than he’s offered. That’s what I really hate about the NFL and I fear that 19-22 year olds would act the same way. Money corrupts people, especially young people.
Posted by Chuck Barris
Member since Apr 2013
2146 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 2:44 pm to
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covid-19 is the beginning of the end


quote:

I believe SOME players deserve to be paid (Cam Newton, Joe Burrow types). I don't agree with Walk-Ons and 3rd string players getting paid though


Non sequitur: a conclusion or statement that does not logically follow from the previous argument or statement
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
11077 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 2:46 pm to
First, frick the NCAA.
Second, the kids should be compensated in some manner more than what is currently allowed by the NCAA.

Finally, IMO the elephant in the room for CFB is the NFL. They use CFB as it's farm system, so as long as the NFL and their owners (who the majority are billionaires) like that arrangement, CFB will exist pretty much as we know it.
This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 2:47 pm
Posted by paperwasp
11x HRV tRant Poster of the Week
Member since Sep 2014
22975 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 2:47 pm to
It's not just you. It does feel like college athletics has been trending that way for a while now, even before COVID, and I don't like what it could be become.
Posted by DunwoodyReb
Member since Dec 2016
13 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 2:48 pm to
I don't proof read internet forum posts. My point is I see why star players with commercial value deserve to be paid, but I don't see why a player that doesn't play deserves more than his 200k scholarship.
Posted by tmjones2
TX
Member since Feb 2013
1511 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 2:49 pm to
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All I’ll say is, the last thing I want in college football is an Antonio Brown, you know a guy who’s thinks he’s entitled and is always worth more money than he’s offered.


I mean Antonio Brown was basically the best WR in football for 6 straight years, you can count the number of guys that have done that on one hand. But if you amend your statement to be "the guys that haven't done anything yet" instead of Antonio Brown then yeah you're right.
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
11077 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 2:52 pm to
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My point is I see why star players with commercial value deserve to be paid, but I don't see why a player that doesn't play deserves more than his 200k scholarship.

Then Cannon Motors or whoever in Oxford won't be paying the 5th string long snapper to do ads for them.

I am not sure what your issue is; players making money off of their likeness separate from the university or the NCAA and/or university compensating the players above and beyond their scholarship.

And a scholarship isn't worth $200K. Not sure where you got that number...
Posted by DunwoodyReb
Member since Dec 2016
13 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 3:00 pm to
I would rather there be a black market for boosters paying players and the NCAA turning a blind eye to EVERY school.
Posted by dlc83
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
1829 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 3:15 pm to
Paying college athletes is not a viable option. Any agreement to pay football players would immediately face serious Title IX issues. In other words, you would have to pay female athletes so as to treat them "equally" under Title IX. Schools don't have that amount of money in the athletic budget to pay thousands of non revenue athletes.

Plus, if anything, COVID (with the cancellation of March Madness and potentially the 2020 football season), has demonstrated how fragile many athletic budgets are. Miss the 2020 football season, and the system crashes for many, many schools.
Posted by bulldawg1980
Member since Sep 2013
166 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 3:23 pm to
Covid will pass, cfb will be here forever. Too much money and jobs involved to change too much.
Posted by Peepdip
Member since Aug 2016
4946 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 3:25 pm to
Are you talking about covid or about paying players? You seem confused
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Arkansas
Member since Jun 2009
13145 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 3:28 pm to
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COVID-19 will change many things.

Social distancing isn't a bad thing. frick all you people getting all up in my chili.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
Coaching Changes Board
Member since Jan 2014
27173 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 3:28 pm to
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I don't agree with Walk-Ons


One of the better chain restaurants. What gives???
Posted by DunwoodyReb
Member since Dec 2016
13 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 3:30 pm to
I'm talking about how covid has expedited the NCAA vs compensating athletes bubble. I think players legally deserve it. But from the view of a fan, I think it will the ruin the game eventually.
Posted by Peepdip
Member since Aug 2016
4946 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 3:36 pm to
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I don't proof read internet forum posts
Do you read at all? Have you ever read a book that wasn't required by school?
Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
6159 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 3:41 pm to
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Second, the kids should be compensated in some manner more than what is currently allowed by the NCAA.



I agree, but it needs to be heavily regulated and controlled otherwise CFB becomes NFLjr although worse because there is no draft system to encourage parity.

Also, fix the undergrad transfer drama with a simple solution.

No waiting period for transfers.

Scholarships and compensation are a 2-way 4-5 year contract - basically good for an undergrad degree.
If a player makes good grades and shows up to practice and reasonably follows coaches instructions, they get a scholarship and stipend for their entire undergrad. No questions asked.
If they get a multi-season/career ending injury, scholarship and pay is honored but doesn’t count against university’s total.

They fail school or quit football, that scholarship gets pulled, and the university frees up a scholarship slot. Player is also ineligible to use the rest of their eligibility at any other school until they graduate (to avoid loopholes with the next caveat)

If they decide to transfer, they owe all that money back to the school, including the years they already attended. If the receiving university wants to pay that tab, their scholarship total is affected for every year they pay that school + any scholarship they give that player. So if they buy off a player’s 4 year contract + give him a scholarship for 2 years, that’s 1 slot over the next 6 years.

Any player can get out of their contract and freely transfer if they do not see at least 12 plays a season after their freshman year.
Posted by Ping Pong
LSU and UVA alum
Member since Aug 2014
5346 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 4:18 pm to
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As an Ole Miss fan, I obviously hate the NCAA


exactly how long is the list of people/organizations that Ole Miss hates? A few hundred pages worth?
Posted by DrunkHammer
Member since Apr 2020
62 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 4:36 pm to
Somehow I think we will be okay.

The Pandemic And College Football: A Look Back At The 1918 Season
This photo is of an undetermined Georgia Tech home game during the 1918 season. The photo was taken by Georgia Tech student Thomas Carter, who would receive a degree in Mechanical Engineering in the 1920s. The photo was provided by Georgia Tech alumnus Andy McNeil. Additional thanks to @GeorgiaTechFB and @CabreraAngel.


The possibility of holding some form of the 2020 college football season during a pandemic has sent folks scurrying to research the 1918 season.

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You can read the rest here Tony Barnhart
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