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re: The BIG 10 is destroying itself, geographically.

Posted on 12/22/23 at 1:23 pm to
Posted by TexasOnTop
Member since Nov 2023
1387 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 1:23 pm to
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The Big Ten has so much damn money they could start adding colleges from Europe.


Y'all should. It would probably help with the level of competition in the BIG 10
Posted by Chip82
Athens, Georgia
Member since Jan 2023
907 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 1:23 pm to
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The SEC has dug a hole that they cannot dig out of unless they swallow their regional pride and add Big 12 schools.


From my own perspective, I have always liked team sport divisional races and rivalries.

I.E., the Atlanta Braves thrive on treating the New York Mets like a red-headed stepchild.

And for some of the title 9 sports, six hour flights are going to suck up a lot of funds that those teams don't generate in the first place.

I am far from being sold on embracing the mega-conferences as a panacea that will have no downside issues.
This post was edited on 12/22/23 at 1:25 pm
Posted by halfadolla50
Member since Oct 2015
322 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 1:27 pm to
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Y'all should. It would probably help with the level of competition in the BIG 10


Didn't "checks notes" Maryland embarrass Texas the past two times they played
Posted by TideFaninFl
On the space coast
Member since Oct 2017
6650 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 1:29 pm to
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Do I hear a stutter? Is the mighty SEC concerned? A national conference will be superior to a regional outfit.



The Big 10 could take in the rest of the Division 1 schools and the SEC would still be winning the NC in most sports.

That is laughter you hear from us.
Posted by dallasga6
Scrap Metal Magnate...
Member since Mar 2009
25672 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 1:34 pm to
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After adding Maryland and Rutgers.



Caught me a Yankee and married her many, many years ago. She grew up in Perth Amboy NJ and got her degree from Rutgers. I'm a UGA grad ...

Been gouging my eyes out for years pretending to watch Rutgers and their B10 football games . Thank God most of their games start at 11a.m....
Posted by NaturalStateReb
Arkansas
Member since Jun 2012
1443 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 1:39 pm to
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Regional Football is important and actually means something.


At the very least, conference identity matters. The old PAC teams could at least say they shared the Rose Bowl history with the B1G schools. Maryland and Rutgers can't say that, and any potential ACC entrants certainly can't.

If the ACC falls apart, we're likely to pick up schools from that (as much as I don't want us to expand again). However, those schools would be schools that bolster the SEC's identity. The B1G and Big 12 will also pick up schools, but I don't think either of those conferences' identities will benefit by being national conferences. Revenues will go up, but expenses will also go up.
Posted by TexasOnTop
Member since Nov 2023
1387 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 1:40 pm to
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Maryland embarrass Texas the past two times they played


Yep beat Texas during its worst decade of football in school history. Not surprisingly though, that was more recent than a BIG 10 national champion.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30225 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 1:45 pm to
What will happen is the B1G schools will soon get tired of flying women’s field hockey and volleyball teams to the West Coast or Tallahassee at great expense and will quietly drop those programs. If Title IX still applies, that means a requisite amount of men’s’ teams will also get whacked. Goodbye, wrestling and baseball.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18447 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 1:45 pm to
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You can say that about Awbun


Average weekly TV viewers in 2022:

#20 Awbun at 1.89 million (one of our worst seasons ever including a mid season coach firing

#50 Missouri at 793k

Average weekly TV viewers in 2023:

#17 Awbun at 2.074 million (6-6 season)

#23 Missouri at 1.63 million (top ten team)


This post was edited on 12/22/23 at 1:46 pm
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
24537 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 1:58 pm to
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They are still flirting with FSU, Miami, Georgia Tech, all North Carolina Schools and the Virginia Colleges.


If this happens, Clemson officials better get ready to suck some SEC dick
Posted by RelentlessTide
Member since Feb 2020
2998 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 1:59 pm to
Certainly don’t buy this. Spoken like a farmer who’s never left his 50 acre property.
This post was edited on 12/22/23 at 2:12 pm
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
3105 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 2:04 pm to
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Give these SEC homers a break. They skipped a few math classes at school.
It seems the entire league skipped some math classes judging by the way their leaders added 2 blue bloods and got no revenue increase from their TV deal.
Posted by TexasOnTop
Member since Nov 2023
1387 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 2:04 pm to
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Which is why non-Southern teams like Texas, Oklahoma, and Missouri need to stay out of the SEC.


Learn geography. I believe what you were trying to say is "South Eastern" not "Southern"...
This post was edited on 12/22/23 at 2:06 pm
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
3105 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 2:11 pm to
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hose conferences are going “national” because they have no choice but to do that.
That's right and the Big 12's making more money without Texas and Oklahoma for going national while the SEC added 0 $ for adding 2 bluebloods in their footprint. Size matters.
Posted by 49 to nada
In aggy and gooner heads, rent free
Member since Sep 2023
1208 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 2:12 pm to
I think in the near future we will have football (maybe including BBall and Baseball) conferences with the non-revenue sports playing in regional conferences that make much more sense. Once some of these schools fly women's soccer, basketball, rowing etc across the continent a few times a year some will have no choice but to either push for regional conferences or cut back on the number of sports offered.
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
3105 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 2:25 pm to
It won't matter when football separates from the NCAA. The end game is 2 leagues fighting it out for the title.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26986 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 2:38 pm to
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money matters to the ones footing the bill


Sure it does. Let's see how much value games like UCLA-Rutgers, Oregon-Indiana, and Washington-Maryland add to the B1G.
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
3105 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 2:58 pm to
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Sure it does. Let's see how much value games like UCLA-Rutgers, Oregon-Indiana, and Washington-Maryland add to the B1G.
Why are you guys so obsessed with Rutgers, Indiana, and Maryland when you guys have Vanderbilt, Mississippi State, and Missouri?
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26986 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 3:00 pm to
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Grab all those ACC teams
We will. National brands will always trump regional ones




What a fricking idiot.

Let's just take a look at what one of those "national brands" brings to the B1G table.

On opening day 2021, week zero...August 28...when there literally no other games on TV because everyone else was starting the following week, the country had Hawaii-UCLA and Alcorn State-NC Central to choose from.

Guess which game had more viewers, numbnuts.

Alcorn-NC Central: 1,002,000.
Hawaii-UCLA: 976,000

That's right. On a day when no other Pac team was playing, and virtually no other team in the country, one of your new supposed "marquee" teams from a state with 39,000,000 people couldn't even draw a million viewers. They couldn't even out draw a couple of little HBCU schools.

LINK

I'm guessing that now you're gonna try to tell us that Alcorn is a bigger national brand than UCLA.

Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26986 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 3:07 pm to
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Why are you guys so obsessed with Rutgers, Indiana, and Maryland when you guys have Vanderbilt, Mississippi State, and Missouri?




You're the one trying to pump up B1G additions as if they actually have any real value.

But ok, since you brought Missouri into the discussion...

Guess which game drew more in 2022...Arkansas-Missouri or UCLA-Cal.

You know the answer; I don't even have to tell you.

And you want to talk about Mississippi State?

Guess which game drew more viewers this year...the Egg Bowl or Cal-UCLA.

Again...you know the answer.

Ole Miss-Miss.State: 2.29M
Cal-UCLA: 1.66M

LINK

You know, stupid and arrogant isn't very good way to go through life. Of course, maybe this is just your internet persona.
This post was edited on 12/22/23 at 3:13 pm
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