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The BIG 10 is destroying itself, geographically.

Posted on 12/22/23 at 10:33 am
Posted by New Hampshire Tiger
Member since Sep 2023
499 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 10:33 am
They are still flirting with FSU, Miami, Georgia Tech, all North Carolina Schools and the Virginia Colleges.

After adding Maryland and Rutgers.

I don't understand the process.

Then, Oregon-USC-Washington-UCLA????

Regional Football is important and actually means something.

The "new" BIG 10 will fail in the next 20 years and everyone will have to fix their financial decisions. Sad.
Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
Member since Jul 2013
25134 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 10:36 am to
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Regional Football is important and actually means something


money matters to the ones footing the bill
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41255 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 10:40 am to
If it were only football and maybe men's basketball it would probably be the way to go, but with all the peripheral sports it is going to drags some athletic depts down that are not at the very top of the football pyramid and they are going to be cutting some sports out just like Stanford tried to do a few years ago and blame it on covid.
This post was edited on 12/22/23 at 10:42 am
Posted by BhamTigah
Lurker since Jan 2003
Member since Jan 2007
14102 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 10:41 am to
They'll be fine in football. They have to do something about the other sports, however. Nothing like Washington's volleyball team having a weeknight match in Maryland.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41255 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 10:42 am to
Yep so they will try and make those long trip be weekend trips, but the fans will want the rivalry games on the weekends.
Posted by TideFaninFl
On the space coast
Member since Oct 2017
6620 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 10:44 am to
Even now I think the Big 10 will be a debt ridden conference. They will make quite a bit of money but the expenses of the teams (even some of the football teams do not make money) will kill the Big 10
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41255 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 10:46 am to
Also if you think about it, the great lakes region has really scattered to the wind with the onset of the rust belt. There are probably more Big 10 fans in other places around the country than any other conference fan base.

I don't know what that will mean monetarily, but there will be lots of Big 10 fans at road games no matter where they play.
This post was edited on 12/22/23 at 10:47 am
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
3100 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 10:47 am to
Do I hear a stutter? Is the mighty SEC concerned? A national conference will be superior to a regional outfit.
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
1355 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 10:47 am to
Makes you wonder the timing of the chip Kelly comments. Maybe there is rumblings about football being separate sports and he wanted to get ahead of the game. He was very outspoken in his opinion and his answer seemed like he definitely had that about it before the presser. Plus he was pretty negative to a conference his school was fortunate to join
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
1355 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 10:53 am to
This under the assumption the the big 10 is planning on ripping a chunk out of the southeast that includes clem fsu unc and vir/miami. What you don't realize is unc clem and fsu's first choice is the sec. If it in fact does scare the sec, Sankey will just poach clem fsu unc or whatever combo they feel alleviates the fear. The big ten is not a threat unless the sec bungles some decisions most of us aren't qualified to make
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
3100 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 10:58 am to
The B1G has plans for the Southeast. It is all a matter of time.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68488 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 10:58 am to
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Do I hear a stutter? Is the mighty SEC concerned? A national conference will be superior to a regional outfit.
if you say so. The Big 10 forever was the Midwest, rust belt conference. That identity is what helps teams in a conference have a sense of pride in it due to regionality. At the same time, those schools that are close together, hate each other and it creates bitter rivalries for generations. Now y’all add west coast liberal schools and by doing that, you take away regionality and frequency of some of those rivalries that gave your conference its identity and what it is today.

That’s why the SEC even though it has expanded, has kept their expansion regionalized. All of the states in our conference touch. We keep that regionality, pride in our conference being the “Southern conference”, maintain all of our traditional rivalries along with each location being easy for schools to travel to along with their fans.
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
1355 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 11:06 am to
They don't even know whose available. If the gor can be broken and IF Sankey says ok let's take clem fsu unc( all of whom prefer the sec) what of the big plans then. Gt miami or vir? Vt ncst Duke pitt? None of that moves the big ten needle
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
3100 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 11:22 am to
The SEC's ideas on expansion are outdated. Everyone is trying to expand beyond their footprint. Even the ACC and Big 12 are trying to go national. The SEC has dug a hole that they cannot dig out of unless they swallow their regional pride and add Big 12 schools.
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
1355 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 11:28 am to
Are they? Or are the big12/acc adding whoever they can to stay afloat?
Posted by Gunga Din
Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2020
1410 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 11:29 am to
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The SEC's ideas on expansion are outdated. Everyone is trying to expand beyond their footprint. Even the ACC and Big 12 are trying to go national. The SEC has dug a hole that they cannot dig out of unless they swallow their regional pride and add Big 12 schools.



The SEC has already includes a couple of border states and former Indian territory. What do you want them to do. Take in actual Yankees???
Posted by MDB
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2019
3075 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 11:30 am to
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unless they swallow their regional pride and add Big 12 schools.


Actually, OkState (good school in several sports) and Houston (another team in big market) would be acceptable invitations.

Just stay away from Rice, Tulane and GaTech like a plague. Econ-Albatrosses.
This post was edited on 12/22/23 at 11:32 am
Posted by BevoBucks
H-town
Member since Dec 2022
3927 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 11:32 am to
quote:

The BIG 10 is destroying itself, geographically.


They will organize around divisions to keep geography & maximize profits.
Posted by KCSilverTiger
KCMO
Member since Sep 2022
482 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 11:35 am to
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Big 12 are trying to go national.




The only thing the conference of misfit toys is trying to do is survive.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54623 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 11:39 am to
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I don't understand the process.


Here is the Ciff Notes

From the beginning the South was a hotbed of college football (Sewanee, Centre, etc)

Post WWII Walter Byers becomes dictator for life (1950's - 1970's) and protects B1G from fading like the Ivy League

CFA + ESPN + SCOTUS break the monopoly and South is at the table again

Realignment #1 (started by B1G) wanting ND and Utx but gets PSU and 11

Realignment #2 (started by B1G) wanting ND and Utx but gets B12 collapse

Realignment #3 (started by B1G) wanting ND and Utx but gets neither


If we really are going to just 2 conferences a full ACC + SEC merger should be expected and the B1G will get whatever is left over


If history repeats from about 100 years ago when this happened before, expect a breakup to regional conferences within a generation. If history does not repeat, CFB as we know it is dead as disco and it will be NFL Lite
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