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re: Texas State Legislature proposing bill to block move
Posted on 7/22/21 at 2:27 pm to lsu777
Posted on 7/22/21 at 2:27 pm to lsu777
I would look less to Austin and more to Washington, DC, if I was concerned about politicians getting involved. I don't think the Texas Legislature will block this. There would be some unhappy legislators, but I think the precedent has been set. Maybe Oklahoma would be different, but I doubt it.
On the other hand, if a certain senator from West Virginia was to publicly call out ESPN for trying to create a college football cartel, and suggest that it would be viewed as proof of no such predatory intent if ESPN were to negotiate an extension of the Big XII TV contract (something that they recently declined to do, which precipitated the request from OU and Texas to join the SEC), then that might have a real impact on the course of events.
On the other hand, if a certain senator from West Virginia was to publicly call out ESPN for trying to create a college football cartel, and suggest that it would be viewed as proof of no such predatory intent if ESPN were to negotiate an extension of the Big XII TV contract (something that they recently declined to do, which precipitated the request from OU and Texas to join the SEC), then that might have a real impact on the course of events.
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Posted on 7/22/21 at 2:38 pm to lsu777
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Liuccu says multiple bills being drafted to stop this move
The BIG 12 contract expires in 2025. All Texas and OU are doing are putting them on notice that they won't renew and will join the SEC in 2025. It would seem like they can exit if they want to at the end of the tenor of the deal.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 2:39 pm to twk
Would OU ever unhitch its wagon from UT?
That might be the question if the Legislature blocks it.
UT seems to be saddled with carrying the lesser Texas schools around.
They should have went Indy for a year or two to dissolve the B12 before jumping in to the SEC.
That might be the question if the Legislature blocks it.
UT seems to be saddled with carrying the lesser Texas schools around.
They should have went Indy for a year or two to dissolve the B12 before jumping in to the SEC.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 2:41 pm to 14&Counting
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The BIG 12 contract expires in 2025. All Texas and OU are doing are putting them on notice that they won't renew and will join the SEC in 2025. It would seem like they can exit if they want to at the end of the tenor of the deal.
In addition to that - Texas governor is a Texas Grad so could/would just veto any bill. Additionally the Texas legislature meets every other year so the governor would have to call a special session just to allow this to be voted on in 2022.
Literally all the governor has to do is nothing. Do nothing and it can't be voted on until 2023, which by then it could easily be to late.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:13 pm to lsu777
This is just posturing from a Baylor grad so he can go home to Waco and tell them "well guys I tried".
The Texas state legislature doesn't even sit in again until January of 2023. Politics won't stop this.
The Texas state legislature doesn't even sit in again until January of 2023. Politics won't stop this.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:16 pm to lsu777
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Liuccu says mutiple bills being drafted to stop this move
Looch literally doesn't know what the frick he's talking about.
You can draft all the bills you want but the earliest any of that shite can be brought up is in January of 2023, by then the decision will have been finalized for more than a year if not longer already.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:17 pm to lsu777
The stupid dems left. Won't happen.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:18 pm to 14&Counting
Exactly correct. Texas cannot be stopped. OU might have had more problems if T Boone was alive but now they can do what they want.
What this is really all about is that OU and Texas have years of rights left on the table which at current Big 12 annual payouts would basically mean buyouts near or over $60-$100+ million each if they left after this upcoming season. Texas and OU can stay in a conference that will hate them until 2025 to save money but no one ever does, but even for them $100 million each is a lot to pay.
So at the end of the day this is the start of what will be a negotiation. I am sure Texas and especially OU would have preferred the SEC deal be done prior to going back to the Big 12 to negotiate an exit so they knew how much wiggle room they had, but now they have to straddle both at the same time. Probably the exact sort of fricking A&M was going for when we leaked it.
What this is really all about is that OU and Texas have years of rights left on the table which at current Big 12 annual payouts would basically mean buyouts near or over $60-$100+ million each if they left after this upcoming season. Texas and OU can stay in a conference that will hate them until 2025 to save money but no one ever does, but even for them $100 million each is a lot to pay.
So at the end of the day this is the start of what will be a negotiation. I am sure Texas and especially OU would have preferred the SEC deal be done prior to going back to the Big 12 to negotiate an exit so they knew how much wiggle room they had, but now they have to straddle both at the same time. Probably the exact sort of fricking A&M was going for when we leaked it.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:22 pm to cardboardboxer
The Governor has called a special session of the Texas Legislature in order for the Legislature to meet already, but the Democrats all fled the state in order to make sure there was no quorum available to get anything done. So until that is resolved absolutely nothing that relies on the Texas Legislature passing something can happen.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:24 pm to Wafflez
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You can draft all the bills you want but the earliest any of that shite can be brought up is in January of 2023
False. Legislature will be convened for special sessions now and in the coming months anyway. All the governor has to do is list this as a designated topic and it becomes fair game for any and all legislative action during the special sessions.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:26 pm to JJxvi
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The Governor has called a special session of the Texas Legislature in order for the Legislature to meet already, but the Democrats all fled the state in order to make sure there was no quorum available to get anything done. So until that is resolved absolutely nothing that relies on the Texas Legislature passing something can happen.
And he's vowed to keep calling special sessions one after another for as long as he has to to get the legislature to act. There will be one or more special sessions in the near future. There will be a lot of pressure to add this to the agenda.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:29 pm to Krampus
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False. Legislature will be convened for special sessions now and in the coming months anyway. All the governor has to do is list this as a designated topic and it becomes fair game for any and all legislative action during the special sessions.
There's already a current special session for the voter ID law and nothing other than that particular issue can be brought up during a special session.
Abbot, a Texas grad, isn't calling ANOTHER special session to block his own alma mater from joining a sports conference. Rick Perry ain't walking through that door and Ann Richards is dead, nothing from the Texas political side will be stopping this, if anything is happening it'll be from the Oklahoma side and that ain't happening either.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:30 pm to Krampus
I would be surprised if Governor Abbott decided to add cockblocking his own alma mater onto any special session agenda. But anyway, my point stands, nothing can happen until the quorum standoff is resolved.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:34 pm to Wafflez
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There's already a current special session for the voter ID law and nothing other than that particular issue can be brought up during a special session.
False. Governor can add new agenda items at any time by presenting them directly to the legislature. Or by issuing additional proclamations to add agenda items to a scheduled or ongoing special session. There is no limit on the governor's authority to add subjects to the special session at any time.
But the topic does have to be introduced by the governor. Legislature cannot take the issue up themselves.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:35 pm to Krampus
quote:If I'm not mistaken, the Okie state legislature put the kibosh on OU leaving OSU behind regarding any conference moves some years ago.
This was always going to happen in the Leg. A&M was ultimately allowed to jump ship for the SEC only after it was guaranteed that UT and OU were going to stay in the Big 12, which guaranteed Baylor and Tech didn't get left behind as G5 programs.
That won't be the case this time around. The current Big 12 can't lose OU and UT and survive as a power conference. There will be a BIG push by the small schools to stop this move.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:38 pm to Krampus
The Governor went to Texas, I'm sure he'll get right on those updated session agendas..
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:39 pm to lsu777
I don't know what goes on in the state of Texas, but it's feeling more and more like a state of insanity.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:39 pm to skrayper
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I don't know what goes on in the state of Texas, but it's feeling more and more like a state of insanity.
At least we have electricity at the moment.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:43 pm to JJxvi
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The Governor went to Texas, I'm sure he'll get right on those updated session agendas..
He did. He's also a politician that needs votes. And A&M, Tech, Baylor, and TCU combined have a lot of votes statewide. The governor that relegates all 3 of the lesser Big 12 programs to a minor conference is going to feel it on election day. Maybe primary day. Safest thing to do politically IMO is to punt to the legislature and let the chips fall where they may.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:46 pm to Krampus
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The governor that relegates all 3 of those programs to a minor conference is going to feel it on election day. Maybe primary day.
You all seriously let college sports influence your politics that much?
Wow. That's really special
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