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re: Stetson vs Bryce

Posted on 12/7/22 at 2:17 pm to
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 12/7/22 at 2:17 pm to
Couldn’t the same thing be said about Bryce Young, only replace TE with NFL WRs?

People act like a player can’t have talent if there are other good players on the team.
Posted by red sox fan 13
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Posted on 12/7/22 at 2:20 pm to
Well they brought in Jamie Newman and JT Daniels to replace him and didn’t Stetson have to beat our Vandagriff and Beck? I’m not saying Stetson is bad because he beat out the competition but I doubt they would bring in transfers if they thought Stetson was the guy.
Posted by FlatwoodsForester
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 12/7/22 at 2:20 pm to
I know a lot of people automatically discredit Stet because his stats aren't as gaudy as some of the other Heisman Candidates, but Jake Rowe posted some pretty eye opening stats on Twitter.

Stet only threw the ball 35 times in the 4th Q all year long (2.7 per game).

9 of them were against Mizzou (our worst game by the OL all year).

Of those 9 passes 7 were completed for 78 yards. 7 straight completions to close out the game.
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
5770 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 2:21 pm to
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Bryce Young, only replace TE with NFL WRs


YES. Without Williams and Metchie he didn't have as good a year. That's painfully obvious.

I've never been one to suggest Bryce Young will be much other than a great college qb. People act like he's Mahomes or some shite. He isn't. Not even close.
But could BY be undefeated if he were the starting qb at UGA in 2022?
Yes.
Would IV won the Heisman at BAMA last year? Even with Metchie and Williams? I think that answer is a resounding "No".
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/7/22 at 2:21 pm to
Because NFL teams don’t care about your teams success if you play better than the other guy.

They aren’t drafting your team.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25553 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 2:22 pm to
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Bruh, He's a room temperature IQ game mngr. Any starting qb in the country goes undefeated at UGA with that defense, that schedule, and those skill players

Stetson has beaten out 3 five star recruits for the job.

Not anyone can go undefeated 2 years in a row in the SEC regular season.

You can piss down your leg all you want. Stetson is in New York this weekend and will be drafted in april.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44719 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 2:26 pm to
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You want exotic offense, look at Sark or Kiffin. Are they as successful as UGA? NO. But it isn't because Todd fricking Monken could out scheme them even with a gun to his head.
Just stop with the bullshite. UGA lines up with the best talent and mauls people. It's classic bullyball. There is no finesse. And it works. Enjoy it. But stop with the Todd Monken is a genius bullshite.



Monken finds favorable matchups as well as anyone. He uses a lot of pre (and some post) snap motion to do this. I could dive into this a bit more, but since you just seem to be a trolling douchebag who probably wouldn't understand anyways, I'm not going to waste my time.

The interior of Georgia's OL is quietly not great at run blocking this season so he's had to go away from bullyball until it's time to bleed the clock. If it was as easy as you make it sound, then James Coley should have had a great offense in 2019 too, but he didn't because he sucked at creating matchups.

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Coming from someone that probably voted for Warnock.


A 3 second glance at my post history will proudly refute this.

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But could BY be undefeated if he were the starting qb at UGA in 2022?
Yes.
Would IV won the Heisman at BAMA last year? Even with Metchie and Williams? I think that answer is a resounding "No".


No one is disputing any of this. I think Bryce Young is the best QB in the country and have already said in this thread that I'd vote for him to win the Heisman this year.

I don't understand the constant, incessant need from some of you to constantly shite on everything Stet has accomplished.
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 2:29 pm
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
5770 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 2:27 pm to
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I know a lot of people automatically discredit Stet because his stats aren't as gaudy as some of the other Heisman Candidates, but Jake Rowe posted some pretty eye opening stats on Twitter.

Stet only threw the ball 35 times in the 4th Q all year long (2.7 per game).

9 of them were against Mizzou (our worst game by the OL all year).

Of those 9 passes 7 were completed for 78 yards. 7 straight completions to close out the game.


Ok. Hypothetically, if the game is on the line, 1:45 to go, no timeouts and your offense needs a TD to win the natty vs a reasonably sound defense which qb you rolling with?
IV or BY?
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16459 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 2:28 pm to
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Stetson hasn’t lost to Bryce


SEC Championship game last year not count or something?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 2:28 pm to
I actually think if Bennett had thrown to Williams and Metchie last year he might have won. I mean he is in the race this year with just a TE.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25553 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 2:28 pm to
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Well they brought in Jamie Newman and JT Daniels to replace him and didn’t Stetson have to beat our Vandagriff and Beck?

Jamie newman was signed to replace Fromm who declared early. Jt Daniels was signed to replace Newman (Todd monken didn't like newman. When he was hired, he went shopping too).
Stetson was brought back to replace fields in 2019 and compete. He was 4th on the depth chart in summer /fall 2020. He took over starting duties in the 2nd quarter of the first game of the season. He got injured when JT Daniels was finally healthy enough to play.
He retook the starting duties in game 2 of 2021. There may have been 2 games where the coaches weren't sure who the starter was. But from that point, it was get Stetson as much work with the team as possible. He didn't have the reps with the #1 offense in 2019 or 2020.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 2:32 pm to
If Bennett is as bad as some on here argue, the rest of the team would have to be All World.

Strange people hate our QB, hate our WRs yet we have one of the best offenses in the country because of a TE?

I mean Bowers is good, but crap!
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22218 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 2:33 pm to
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Ok. Hypothetically, if the game is on the line, 1:45 to go, no timeouts and your offense needs a TD to win the natty vs a reasonably sound defense which qb you rolling with? IV or BY?

Funny we kinda saw this in last years NC…ended with Bryce throwing a pick 6.

Same 4th QTR saw Bennett lead his team on two TD drives to take the lead, the pick 6 was just the icing on the cake.
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
5770 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 2:35 pm to
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I could dive into this a bit more, but since you just seem to be a trolling douchebag who probably wouldn't understand anyways,


IE idk wtf I'm talking about.

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He uses a lot of pre (and some post) snap motion to do this.


He uses motion to identify zone vs m2m defense?? Wow. What a fricking concept. He should patent this before it catches on and every offensive coordinator starts doing this.
How fricking hard is it to recognize that Bowers and Washington are nightmare matchups for any defense? This ain't rocket science. FFS.

How hard is it to recognize that putting McConkey in the slot and daring the defense to cover him with a safety is a fool's errand, but putting an extra corner to cover him softens the LBs/safeties up against the run?? Double FFS.

And I dare you find more than maybe 10 tines that MacIntosh has been tackled for a loss this year. Are you an idiot??

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in 2019 too, but he didn't because he sucked at creating matchups.


UGA didn't have the same players as they have now. WTF??
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
5770 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 2:36 pm to
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. I mean he is in the race this year with just a TE.



He's in the race this year because the pickings are slim.
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
5770 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 2:37 pm to
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Funny we kinda saw this in last years NC…ended with Bryce throwing a pick 6.


OK. So by not answering the question you've answered it.


IV didn't lead a miracle comeback vs BAMA the first time they played though, did he??
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2012
13489 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 2:40 pm to
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Bryce is better.

Bryce may be the best QB at Bama under saban.




And that is saying something considering the success Tua and Jalen have had.

I know Jalen left and went to OK. But he played for us (and got shafted IMO).
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25553 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

quote:
He uses a lot of pre (and some post) snap motion to do this.


He uses motion to identify zone vs m2m defense?? Wow. What a fricking concept. He should patent this before it catches on and every offensive coordinator starts doing this.
How fricking hard is it to recognize that Bowers and Washington are nightmare matchups for any defense? This ain't rocket science. FFS.


Lol

The motion is more than just identifying coverage.

Good one.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25553 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 2:43 pm to
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IV didn't lead a miracle comeback vs BAMA the first time they played though, did he??


No. The sack of shite threw for 340 yards and 3 TDs.

We are still pissed at stet for that /s
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22218 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 2:44 pm to
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OK. So by not answering the question you've answered it. IV didn't lead a miracle comeback vs BAMA the first time they played though, did he??


We’ve seen one QB fail to lead his team in damn near your exact scenario, that’s Bryce Young. Hell we saw him fail to do so vs UT this year. You got the ball with 3:26 left and he couldn’t move you but 45 yards on 11 plays, and really he didn’t move you that far as during those 11 plays he had 5 incompletions. Young is talented, maybe he just chokes in the big moments..see his incompletion filled drive vs LSU to end regulation time which resulted in you having to settle for a FG. He went 4/9 on the drive..for 40 or so yards..
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 2:48 pm
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