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re: State is in as bad of position as any SEC team, ever

Posted on 9/23/24 at 12:24 pm to
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
14010 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 12:24 pm to
Hopefully UGA gets to play the entire bench in our match up.
Posted by MedDawg
Member since Dec 2009
4566 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 12:32 pm to
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Anybody that unnecessarily runs up the score on them us a jerk.


To avoid that y'all will have to take knees the entire second half.
Posted by Tr33fiddy
Hog Jaw, Arkansas (it exists)
Member since Aug 2023
1374 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 12:39 pm to
It's a sad state of affairs.


Arkansas once had a coach so bad he ran off our star in state quarterback to wku. The qb returned the following year and delivered a clinic beating us on our home field. Our own players celebrated his victory

My point is....see how well we are doing now lol
Posted by MedDawg
Member since Dec 2009
4566 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 12:41 pm to
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A State fan, folks.


You're the one who brought up OM in a thread about State, dick.

Ole Miss gets good once in a millennium and acts like a dynasty. Cocky even when they are average or bad. Worst fans in the SEC.
This post was edited on 9/23/24 at 12:48 pm
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
5069 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 12:44 pm to
The offense is improving. The OL looked way better vs FL.

Defense is just lost.
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
13613 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 12:45 pm to
Here’s my fear of Lebby if I was a Bulldog fan.

Starkville is his sixth stop in the last decade. He’s bounced around a lot recently, and CFB has changed a lot in that time. He hasn’t been anywhere long enough to witness program building, much less help build or maintain a program. He’s worked with a lot of different coaches in that time, but has he been anywhere long enough to form deep bonds or learn how to identify talented assistants, support staff, and analysts?

On the flip side, he was at Baylor for years as Art Briles built that program. He was also recently the OC on new staffs at UCF, Ole Miss, and OU. He does have recent experience walking into a new situation.
Posted by The Winner
Member since Nov 2016
8142 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 1:21 pm to
This is worse than the Croom teams . It's not even a comparison. It would be a dog fight with one of the Chad Morris teams.


I knew blowing up the Leach offense would be bad and people still celeberate it.
Posted by gamecockman12
Columbia, SC
Member since Aug 2012
7636 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 1:27 pm to
38.5 spread in a conference game is WILD.
Posted by All Gas No Brakes
Member since Jul 2021
837 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 1:27 pm to
I don’t want to hear it
I’m expecting a desperate/angry team travelling to Austin this weekend that will play better than they have looked all season
Posted by gamecockman12
Columbia, SC
Member since Aug 2012
7636 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 1:29 pm to
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Not sure of that. South Carolina once lost 22 in a row


Posted by Quicksilver
Poker Room
Member since Jan 2013
11627 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 1:33 pm to
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The offense is improving. The OL looked way better vs FL.


I don't think the OL looked better, Lebby just finally started running Shapen. Having watched Lebby call offenses with a partially broken Matt Corral in 2021, his running game absolutely relies on the threat of the QB to carry it. If the QB couldn't run it, the run game always struggled here at Ole Miss. Dude loves to run an undersized RB right up the middle.

Unfortunately Shapen didn't survive.
This post was edited on 9/23/24 at 1:34 pm
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
34880 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 1:33 pm to
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State is in as bad of position as any SEC team, ever
The Arnette decision might have put us in a position where we can't recover as everyone around us is getting better and I'm not sure we have any P4 players on the roster.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Member since Jan 2014
29806 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 1:38 pm to
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You're the one who brought up OM in a thread about State, dick.

Ole Miss gets good once in a millennium and acts like a dynasty. Cocky even when they are average or bad. Worst fans in the SEC.


I only brought it up in the context of why I don’t feel any sympathy toward State by and large, not just to bring it up. I’m sure that distinction is lost on you.

But you and your posts make my point absolutely, inarguably, crystal clear.

quote:

MedDawg


Ladies and gentleman, again, a State fan.
This post was edited on 9/23/24 at 1:40 pm
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
27663 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 1:40 pm to
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You're the one who brought up OM in a thread about State, dick.

Ole Miss gets good once in a millennium and acts like a dynasty. Cocky even when they are average or bad. Worst fans in the SEC.


Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
27663 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 1:42 pm to
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I don't think the OL looked better, Lebby just finally started running Shapen. Having watched Lebby call offenses with a partially broken Matt Corral in 2021, his running game absolutely relies on the threat of the QB to carry it. If the QB couldn't run it, the run game always struggled here at Ole Miss. Dude loves to run an undersized RB right up the middle.


Corral was a f'in warrior in 2021. He deserved that 2021 September Heisman trophy.
This post was edited on 9/23/24 at 1:42 pm
Posted by reggierayreb
Member since Nov 2012
17951 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 1:46 pm to
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Got to have some sympathy for them.





Posted by 49 to nada
In aggy and gooner heads, rent free
Member since Sep 2023
4894 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 1:56 pm to
I may be wrong, but I feel like if the pirate were still leading the Cowbells he'd have them in position to take advantage of the 12 team playoffs every 2-3 seasons. Now it's kinda hard to imagine them even getting bowl eligible most years.
Posted by reggierayreb
Member since Nov 2012
17951 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 2:06 pm to
Well, at the end of the day, you gotta remember that God has a plan for everyone and everything.

If his plan is for MSU to lose 8-10 football games a year for the foreseeable future then far be it from me to question our Lord. That would be blasphemy,




Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
14389 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 2:23 pm to
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Could you or someone else fill me in about what happened after Coach Leach tragically passed away? Why was there such a collapse?


Leach took a spread offense and took three years to covert it to primarily air raid. QB that does nothing but sling, RB that is merely a check down Reciever, OL that only had to be good at pass blocking while playing spaced farther apart, and a roster loaded with receivers.

He essentially built a team that only he could run. And as soon as he did, snap. Gone. If the offense was another style, someone else could have stepped in and used the pieces, this offense is the only one that you couldn’t. First hurdle.

He died after the coaching carousel silly season and when everyone was in bowl prep. He dies at the absolutely worst time to suddenly need to find a coach. Second hurdle.

There was no AD in place when he dies to immediately try to make any moves. Third hurdle.

The staff in the AD and university president picks the DC.. a defensive coach… to run a completely pass based offense. Just like putting a tank commander in a jet fighter. Fourth hurdle.

That head coach alienated several players by informing them they would stick with the same scheme, even though he knew that was impossible, to get them to stay. First day of spring arose the truth and a new offense. Square peg.. round hole. Fifth hurdle.

That coach is dismissed, as expected, and transfers galore. Since it was expected he would be fired, he didn’t bother to recruit after Leach’s passing nor during his time there. State’s class was ranked in the mid to high 50’s when he was fired. Sixth hurdle.

Now we have a mish mash of players that have been thrown together in a patchwork to just field a team. With a schedule that almost looks like the SEC wanted to play a sadistic joke.

Annnd oh yea.. our starting QB.. best player on the team.. was just declared out for the season.

A cumulative number of “this is the worst time for this” has happened over and over throughout these past two years. It is a progression of sorrow, then frustration, to right out apathy that has made the buy in to NIL throughout the fanbase slow and arduous as well.





This post was edited on 9/23/24 at 2:29 pm
Posted by gaius julius bevo
Member since Jul 2021
653 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 2:27 pm to
Sounds like you had your share of misfortune and more! Good luck and I hope better times are coming for MSU football.
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