BCreed1
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Trump even calls it a war.
I don't care what Trump calls it. When it becomes a never ending war... let me know.
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Are you seriously going to claim that these quotes negate claims that, at other times, he explicitly said something different.
Just one example:
You need to learn to put things in context.
That's like claiming God wants you to kill everybody on the planet because you take a scripture out of context.
re: Were the “Panicans” right after all on Iran?
Posted by BCreed1 on 8/10/26 at 2:29 pm to SlidellCajun
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It was supposed to be 2 weeks…
And it was supposed to be unnecessary after the June 2025 bombing that was supposed to have obliterated their nuclear capability
It was never just about just their nuke capability. It's about a solution to a problem of them recreating their program because the same fanatics control the nation.
This is Trump throughout the years:
2011 (social media / public comments):
“Iran’s nuclear program must be stopped – by any and all means necessary.”
He has repeatedly stated he will use everything and do what ever he has to do to stop that.
As all of you have pointed out, they will still seek nukes because they are still in power. Right?
So it seems to me that this falls right into the current operations. We have not sent boots in. We bomb on the occasion. We have a blockade.
All of that appears too be to force a change by creating the right environment.
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Is this war over?
This is not a war. We don't have boots on the ground. What we have is a crippling blockade backed by total air control.
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Will it be over when we pull stakes and pay tolls to clear the Straits? What about when we pay their reparations?
LOL.. What? :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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When will the war end?
Again... There are no boots on the ground. We don;t need them./ Time is on our side.
re: Were the “Panicans” right after all on Iran?
Posted by BCreed1 on 8/10/26 at 2:18 pm to SlidellCajun
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Maga was supposed to change the narrative from the Neocons that wanted military intervention across the globe
No, we were get in and get out. We are,, no never ending wars. We are Strong military and not be fraid to use it.... just go get it done and over with.
I have always laughed at people who try and tell others what they want.
re: Were the “Panicans” right after all on Iran?
Posted by BCreed1 on 8/10/26 at 2:14 pm to MemphisGuy
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Because, well, that ain't happening.
Like I said. Starvation effects everybody.... not just the people. The soldier in the guard... the officer in the guard. And we have all the time.
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Until that changes, without us putting boots on the ground, we won't be able to make much headway in regime change, right?
I disagree.
Except for that's not close to what we are doing......
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I hope so but I’m not convinced they have the power to takeover the savages that lead them with an iron fist.
I think we all have that hope. Not sure of the outcome, but this is how I see it.
- Time is on our side. We don't even have to launch attacks that often. Just enough to add pain. We can literally blockade as long as needed. Nobody can move us.
- The blockade daily brings harsher conditions to the people AND those in the guard. Through the occasional attack that makes them wonder if it's worth it.
- Offer a solution to the people... see if they take it.
In the meantime, the market will stabilize because there are options for the rest of the ME and their oil/NG.
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re: Were the “Panicans” right after all on Iran?
Posted by BCreed1 on 8/10/26 at 2:06 pm to SlidellCajun
Like I said.. ignorance.
All over this board.
From Trump:
“As a candidate for president, I loudly pledged a new approach. Great nations do not fight endless wars.”
January 6, 2024 rally (before the Iowa caucuses):
Returning him to the White House would allow the country to “turn the page forever on those foolish, stupid days of never-ending wars. They never ended.”
2024 Pennsylvania rally:
“I will not send you to fight and die in stupid foreign wars that never end.”
Oct 5th 2024, Rally:
"I will not send you to fight and die in a foolish, never-ending foreign war.”
Just because you are not paying attention doesn't mean everybody else was not paying attention.
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Really? Where is that written?
All over this board.
From Trump:
“As a candidate for president, I loudly pledged a new approach. Great nations do not fight endless wars.”
January 6, 2024 rally (before the Iowa caucuses):
Returning him to the White House would allow the country to “turn the page forever on those foolish, stupid days of never-ending wars. They never ended.”
2024 Pennsylvania rally:
“I will not send you to fight and die in stupid foreign wars that never end.”
Oct 5th 2024, Rally:
"I will not send you to fight and die in a foolish, never-ending foreign war.”
Just because you are not paying attention doesn't mean everybody else was not paying attention.
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It’s a great advantage they hold in not caring about their citizens.
I don;t think it is. But I understand why people think that. I think it's priming them, pushing them to act.
Starvation is a crazy motivator.
re: Were the “Panicans” right after all on Iran?
Posted by BCreed1 on 8/10/26 at 1:56 pm to SlidellCajun
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Maga was against wars and especially Middle East wars
Nope. That's pure ignorance on your part.
We are against NEVER ENDING WARS where we have boots on the ground.
No trollalah, they were not.
Road, you are 100% correct.
re: Operation “Economic Fury,”
Posted by BCreed1 on 8/10/26 at 1:49 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
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That can only last as long as the people remain willing to be governed under the threat of severe force. At some point the threat of death becomes less important.
It becomes a choice. Either die in an attempt to get your nations back OR die at the hands of a guard that does not care.
LOL.. You can not even comprehend what you read. Your copy and paste isn't a refute. Still the same on ronbot rick.
Learn to read. Then learn to comprehend what you read. Maybe at that point, you can speak with some intelligence.
Let me help you with this one. Your copied image does not in any form address what was stated unless you are ADMITTING that 1 of these goals were met: This is and always has been about no nukes and no more terrorist funding and no more blackmailing of the world due to a strait.
Are you saying that's true?
How long do you think the people will stand by and be put through it when other options are given? You think those in the guard don't have families? That they are going to be ok with them starving?
TIME is on our side. We have not put boots on the ground because we don't need to.
Learn to read. Then learn to comprehend what you read. Maybe at that point, you can speak with some intelligence.
Let me help you with this one. Your copied image does not in any form address what was stated unless you are ADMITTING that 1 of these goals were met: This is and always has been about no nukes and no more terrorist funding and no more blackmailing of the world due to a strait.
Are you saying that's true?
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This doesn't matter as Iran does not and will not care about their own people or the well being of anyone. Iran 'running out' of supplies means nothing. They killed over 50,000 of their own people during the unrest at the start of this war. You think they won't kill more?
How long do you think the people will stand by and be put through it when other options are given? You think those in the guard don't have families? That they are going to be ok with them starving?
TIME is on our side. We have not put boots on the ground because we don't need to.
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You get enough of those in the military with weapons not able to feed their families it just might.
That's right. And you gt the right people in place and back them...
re: Operation “Economic Fury,”
Posted by BCreed1 on 8/10/26 at 1:39 pm to wareaglepete
That's not going to happen.
re: Operation “Economic Fury,”
Posted by BCreed1 on 8/10/26 at 1:37 pm to LARancher1991
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True, but we have heard since the beginning of this thing that the Iranian people are going to rise up and it hasn't happened yet. Honestly, I've lost trust in that happening anytime soon. Will it happen eventually? Possibly, but who knows when it will be.
And that's reasonable and a understandable thought. We have decades of this, so it's hard to buy in totally.
What I see is no troops on the ground, their leaders killed, and the current leaders talking openly about the pain of the blockade.
Until I see anything different, I will go with the new plan.
re: Operation “Economic Fury,”
Posted by BCreed1 on 8/10/26 at 1:24 pm to wareaglepete
How so?
re: Operation “Economic Fury,”
Posted by BCreed1 on 8/10/26 at 1:23 pm to LARancher1991
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they will allow them to starve in the streets just to say they defeated and embarrassed the US
A population starved will be more open to taking out their leaders. They are moldable.
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