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It seems like you are fundamentally misunderstanding what a “goal” is.

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Why do you think there can only be one goal. The admin stated goalS in 2924 and has repeated those goals.

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If your goal is to raise revenue, you have to keep your tariffs in place.

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From the Baseline of 10%

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If your goal is to on-shore, you can’t use the tariffs as counter leverage because that’s not why you set them in the first place.

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Those are secondary tariffs, not baseline.

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If your goal is to leverage tariffs to reduce counter tariffs, then again, as soon as you “win”, you remove the tariffs and get zero revenue and zero on-shoring.

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Does it remove the baseline?

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It literally can't be.

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But it can be. That's what was promoted by the Admin in 2024.

1. Increasing tariff revenue.

By it's very nature, a tariff will raise revenue. That does not take away from #2 and #3.

The admin made clear they will use tariffs for this specific reason.



2- Increasing domestic production

Was also sold to the US that they would be used to do that. There are other policies that help this. Open here in the USA for example. That does not rid the flat 10% that he has done. That removes the extras.

3- Leveraging for a reduction in their tariffs on US goods

This has actually happened. Just some examples:

Philippines — Agreed to eliminate tariffs on American goods (to 0%) in a July 2025 deal; U.S. capped tariffs at 19%.

Indonesia — Dropped tariffs on U.S. goods to 0%; U.S. reduced its rate to 19%.

Thailand — Committed to eliminate tariffs on almost all U.S. goods; U.S. set rate at 19%.

Cambodia — Eliminated all tariffs on U.S. goods (100% coverage).

Malaysia — Reduced or removed tariffs on a wide variety of U.S. goods.

United Kingdom — Eliminated tariffs on U.S. ethanol and increased quota/access for U.S. beef (from low previous levels); part of a May 2025 framework deal.

Vietnam — Allowed many U.S. products duty-free entry.

Other nations, such as India (offered to lower/eliminate on 55% of U.S. imports but deal stalled), Japan, South Korea, El Salvador, Argentina, Ecuador, and Guatemala, engaged in talks involving tariff reductions or barrier removals, though outcomes varied (some frameworks pending finalization).

So they are all happening.

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In your opinion, when we set tariffs, should our goal be:

1. Increasing tariff revenue
2. Increasing domestic production
3. Leveraging for a reduction in their tariffs on US goods

And please, please don't say "all of the above".

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It is all of the above. Why would we not say it?

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Forget about the inflation argument. Tariffs bring lower economic activity.

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They do not. Which is why our economy grew at 4.3% killing expectations.

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They are a tax on consumers. The government is taking their money. Money with which consumers could buy more goods and services.

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Again, it's not the whole picture, but I know that you actually know that. It's sad that you try to form this strictly around 1 policy with in the economic plan.

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Shocked that this got anchored.

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Because you are a troll spreadin troll crap all over the board.

You should be banned. You lost the bet.

117th (2021–2023) Senate control: Democrats House Control: Democrats

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Because congress got off their asses

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So they could not do it then? Instead they used every other form to try and take him out... just left this on the table?


1- Any sane person should be able to see the massive flaw in those pages to understand why they did not use it and why it never made it past the taking of information. Zero Credibility.

2- Any real person, not bent on trolling, would be able to grasp the flaw in the DEMS who controlled both the house and senate and used every conceivable tactic to actually JAIL Trump but left this alone.

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Are we now supposed to believe that the DNC has credible evidence to support these random allegations on the eve of the 2020 election and chose rather to sit on it?

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You and I both know what this is about. Mid Terms. Watch them start mentioning impeachment if elected.

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Because Donald Trump tried to bury it.

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Who was the president in 2021, 2022, 2023,2024?? Yeah. That's right. Biden.

They went after Trump[ to BK him, to jail him... the man has a mug shot now.... and yu think that they would not have used this?

You can not be that dumb!

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We have a constitution that defines the limits.

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That's what I just said. It also has rules FOR gov involvement.

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The fact you think people who want less government intervention are socialists goes to highlight your complete ignorance on civics in general.

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Conservatives are not ZERO Gov. That's anarchist. Conservatives believe in a limited gov. Limited does NOT equal ZERO Gov.