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re: Spinoff Thread: AU’s last 12 Composite 5 Star commits
Posted on 5/6/19 at 11:38 pm to Irons Puppet
Posted on 5/6/19 at 11:38 pm to Irons Puppet
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If I was a Gus apologist (which I am not), I would point to the stat that as AU HC he has beaten the #1 Team on average every two years. I do not think Dabo can say that.
There is no doubt that when Gus has the right roster parts and his mojo that he can beat anybody.
As you know, it's the other 75% of the time that is the problem.
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 11:54 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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There is no doubt that when Gus has the right roster parts and his mojo that he can beat anybody.
As you know, it's the other 75% of the time that is the problem.
When Gus has a QB he is hard to beat. He had one in 13,14 but he had Ellis Johnson. He had one in 17, but he lacked depth at the RB position. I think he had one this year, but AU had too many other issues on Offense. That is why I keep saying that Saban has benefited the most from lack of QB play in the SEC. He has had QB issues over his tenure, but has been able to compensate for it with overall talent. Most of the other teams didn't have the QB or the talent over the last 10 years.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:11 am to Irons Puppet
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Did any of them have 630 yards of Offense against him?
Moral Victory U
Posted on 5/7/19 at 8:01 am to Glorious
Congratulations Auburn minions (SkyKing especially) for hijacking a thread about Auburn's failure to develop 5* players into NFL successes, and making it about the fact that Auburn's losing record against Alabama isn't as bad as most of the SEC teams. 
It's now become a thread about whose fart smells the worst!
Posted on 5/7/19 at 8:04 am to mistaken4193
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I mean if you dont think Bama being down to their 3rd string at both MLBs, 2nd string at both OLB, Minkah Fitzpatrick playing with a pulled hamstring, Da'Shawn Hand playing on a knee that was less than 50% and Hootie Jones getting hurt in the game is a big deal then you are dumb.
Auburn has never had an injured player going into the Iron Bowl, FACT
ETA, and to use your brethren's comment
Bama is
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Moral Victory U
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 8:05 am
Posted on 5/7/19 at 8:07 am to NYCAuburn
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NYCAuburn
Amen
Posted on 5/7/19 at 8:11 am to Glorious
Your list gets a lot shorter when you remove kids who either got processed or were kicked off the team.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 8:29 am to Pavoloco83
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Your list gets a lot shorter when you remove kids who either got processed or were kicked off the team.
Those kids are still relevant to the point though.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 8:41 am to elposter
I'd like to see the OP's homework on this. Sadly going back to 2009 there were not 12 composite 5 stars(not including current players) and he missed at least one draft pick
Posted on 5/7/19 at 8:47 am to NYCAuburn
"There are 241 247Sports Composite five-star players from college football in that period – the elite of elite coming out of high school.
Alabama, unsurprisingly, signed the highest total of those at 29. But that’s not the important number. To truly grade development you must observe the number of those recruits who became first-round picks. That’s the full college cycle of development — a choice prospect comes in and a highly-regarded NFL talent comes out.
Fourteen of those 29 eventually became a first-round pick in Tuscaloosa, a rate of 48.3 percent that doesn’t count six other Crimson Tide five-stars that were second-round picks.
For some needed perspective on that number, let’s look at how the other FBS teams fared.
"Take away Alabama’s 29 five-star players from that window, and there are 212 five-star recruits. Some schools have had a lot (Florida State: 24) in that 2008-15 period, while others have had just one (13 different schools). Taken together, the number of first-round picks from that five-star pool minus Alabama is 36.
That’s a hit rate of only 17 percent.
Think about that. Alabama’s five-star recruits are picked in the first round at a rate of 48.3 percent, while five-star recruits that go to any other school are selected at a 17-percent clip. A five-star prospect who picks Alabama is more than doubly likely be selected in the first round than if he goes anywhere else.
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FACTS!.....cold, hard facts.
Alabama, unsurprisingly, signed the highest total of those at 29. But that’s not the important number. To truly grade development you must observe the number of those recruits who became first-round picks. That’s the full college cycle of development — a choice prospect comes in and a highly-regarded NFL talent comes out.
Fourteen of those 29 eventually became a first-round pick in Tuscaloosa, a rate of 48.3 percent that doesn’t count six other Crimson Tide five-stars that were second-round picks.
For some needed perspective on that number, let’s look at how the other FBS teams fared.
"Take away Alabama’s 29 five-star players from that window, and there are 212 five-star recruits. Some schools have had a lot (Florida State: 24) in that 2008-15 period, while others have had just one (13 different schools). Taken together, the number of first-round picks from that five-star pool minus Alabama is 36.
That’s a hit rate of only 17 percent.
Think about that. Alabama’s five-star recruits are picked in the first round at a rate of 48.3 percent, while five-star recruits that go to any other school are selected at a 17-percent clip. A five-star prospect who picks Alabama is more than doubly likely be selected in the first round than if he goes anywhere else.
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FACTS!.....cold, hard facts.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 8:51 am to coachcrisp
Ask Corey Grant about Auburn and Bama development.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 8:56 am to jvilletiger25
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Ask Corey Grant about Auburn and Bama development.
Considering Alabama has had 10 running backs drafted in the last 11 drafts and 9 drafted in the first 3 rounds.......
I think we feel comfortable with our development there.
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 8:57 am
Posted on 5/7/19 at 8:59 am to jvilletiger25
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Ask Corey Grant about Auburn and Bama development.
That’s a stupid take.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:03 am to SummerOfGeorge
How many of them are still in the NFL like Grant?
Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:06 am to jvilletiger25
You got no leg to stand on here, jville. You'd be wise to quietly back on out of this little debate. 
Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:09 am to jvilletiger25
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How many of them are still in the NFL like Grant?
RBs on NFL rosters (or free agents who will sign)
Auburn
Corey Grant
Kerryon Johnson
Cameron Artis-Payne
Peyton Barber
Alabama
Bo Scarbrough
Derek Henry
Kenyan Drake
Damien Harris
Josh Jacobs
Mark Ingram
TJ Yeldon
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 9:14 am
Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:54 am to SummerOfGeorge
If only Eddie Lacy didn’t start choosing Chinese Food over millions of dollars right before his rookie contract was up. He was legit about to get paid too
Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:59 am to coachcrisp
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Congratulations Auburn minions (SkyKing especially) for hijacking a thread about Auburn's failure to develop 5* players into NFL successes, and making it about the fact that Auburn's losing record against Alabama isn't as bad as most of the SEC teams.
It's now become a thread about whose fart smells the worst!
What Bammers like you fail to answer is how does AU even beat bama once, much less one out of every three games, with the talent differential between the two programs. Even when we sign the rare 5*, they fail to develop. Yet, even with all of Bama's first rounders and NFL talent they can not put Auburn away. We always hear the excuses for the loses:
Cam being bought
Illegal lineman downfield
Marshall was beyond the LOS
Saban played Hurts because he was one of his favorites.
I guess its a way of rationalizing why it is not like the series with UT or LSU. I remember when Bama had a 9 game winning streak in the series against Auburn in the 70s. The talent differential wasn't close to what it is today. I really believe if it wasn't for the two Mulligans, the narrative of Saban being the greatest coach in the history of CF would be totally different.
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 10:12 am
Posted on 5/7/19 at 10:14 am to Irons Puppet
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I really believe if it wasn't for the two Mulligans, the narrative of Saban being the greatest coach in the history of CF would be totally different.
Yep, he'd just be one of best of all time instead of the best of all time.
- 4 national titles overall, 3 at Alabama (2009, 2012, 2015)
- 11 straight top 10 finishes @ Alabama
- 8 top 5 finishes @ Alabama
- 8 SEC Titles (6 at Alabama)
- 4 of the 5 CF Playoffs
- 7 of last 8 seasons with 1 loss or less
- 12-0 vs Tennessee, 10-3 vs LSU, 8-4 vs Auburn
- 2 Heisman winners
Still be looking pretty good.
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 10:23 am
Posted on 5/7/19 at 10:15 am to Irons Puppet
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with the talent differential between the two programs
Y'all don't even know what talent differential looks like
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