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re: South Carolina looking like a 4th place finisher in SEC

Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:38 am to
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:38 am to
quote:

South Carolina hasn't had road games against "middle" teams.



well we had one.

and one saturday.
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
13454 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:39 am to
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What about ASU are they medicore?

I mean if you want to get into non-conference schedules then we can, and, yes, ASU is mediocre, but State's non-conference RPI is 5 and South Carolina's is 235
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95907 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:41 am to
Oh he already gave us hypothetical losses for all these middle road teams for...some reason?
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
13454 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:41 am to
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well we had one.

I am aware of that one

And, yeah, if South Carolina beats Mississippi State in Starkville on Saturday then that'll completely shut everyone up about Carolina not being actually one of the best teams in the conference
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
13454 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:42 am to
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Oh he already gave us hypothetical losses for all these middle road teams for...some reason?

I didn't say that South Carolina would definitely lose those games but they'd be pretty heavy underdogs and the OP asked a question and I'm attempting to answer it
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95907 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:42 am to
quote:

Carolina not being actually one of the best teams in the conference


I would agree with that statement even if we were to blow out MSU on Saturday.
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
13454 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:44 am to
So then why get insulted when I try to answer a question as to why South Carolina is so high in the standings currently?
Posted by Carolina_Girl
South Cackalacky
Member since Apr 2012
23973 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:50 am to
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yeah, but at least he'll have Silva another 8 years


The Hunter Renfrow of basketball.
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95907 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:53 am to
Insulted?

I questioned your “Florida has had an easier draw so far” response and argued your logic with MSU.

That’s what I do. I argue things.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 11:12 am to
quote:

I mean if you want to get into non-conference schedules then we can, and, yes, ASU is mediocre, but State's non-conference RPI is 5 and South Carolina's is 235

I wasn't saying we were a good team either.
We are medicore and got beat by better teams in OOC.
And we are running through the SEC because... it's not that great as people said it was.
Posted by 1801
Charleston
Member since Aug 2012
6304 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 12:28 pm to
you should take a look at this NET report for each team

https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Stats%20Library/NET%20Nitty%20Gritty%20-%20Games%20through%20Feb.%2019,%202019.pdf

UF (33 NET) overall SOS - 43, UF NonConf SOS - 149
SC (82 NET) overall SOS - 21, SC NonConf SOS - 102

UF is 6-10 vs Q1/Q2, SC is 7-10 vs Q1/Q2.

UF is 8-1 vs Q3/Q4, SC is 6-2 vs Q3/Q4.

also, everyone wants to point to USC's Q4 loss on the season while ignoring that #27 NET Cincinnati has 1 Q4 loss and #32 NET Baylor has 2 Q4 losses. USC has better numbers than both of those schools with regards to SOS and Avg Opp NET/Rank.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37636 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 12:32 pm to
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Team with lots of new faces and early injuries improves as the season progresses. It isn't that hard to figure out.

This ^^^^^

And why some are having such a hard time comprehending the simple mechanics of how this works is a head scratcher.

SC has some dynamic freshmen that needed game experience after losing a couple of key players to injury early (for the season) and having a couple of others hurt who finally returned.

If we make the tourney after the slow start it will be a miracle of sorts.

Next year though, with what we have returning, we should be pretty good even sans Silva who btw, has turned into a PotY candidate down the stretch.
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
37636 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 12:42 pm to
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It is because we are South Carolina. South Carolina isn't supposed to be good at anything, so whenever South Carolina wins a couple games people just don't understand.

This is true, which is baffling at times ... trying to understand that perception because in fact, overall as an athletic program, we win as much or more than half of the rest of the conference in all sports and have had more accomplished seasons, overall this millennium, (especially this decade),than half of the other programs in the league.

And we’re trending upwards by every metric both on the field/court of play and in facilities, academics and fan support/booster donations.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 1:19 pm to
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This is true, which is baffling at times ... trying to understand that perception because in fact, overall as an athletic program,

It's simple really.

The average fan just looks at football and mens basketball.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36041 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 1:58 pm to
The improvement in this team is stunning. I predicted us to go 3-15 in conference play. I'm amazed at how much better we look now. Reminds me of that 1997 Fogler team that lost to SC State and UNC Asheville but then won the SEC and beat national runner up UK twice.
Posted by SECUSC4
Member since Jun 2018
1355 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

they got a pretty easy draw (unbalanced schedule)


Our SOS is one of the hardest in the nation...

Also how the frick are there ppl like you saying we have an easy draw, but also people saying we are a top 3 conference.

When you are cleaning your ears, you're supposed to stop when you feel resistance.
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
6818 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 2:58 pm to
Poor coaching early. Seniors weren’t playing well earlt
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