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re: South Carolina looking like a 4th place finisher in SEC

Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:15 am to
Posted by jptiger2009
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:15 am to
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Where did Frank touch you?




I've called him elite several times (he told me I had to).
Posted by gamecockman12
Columbia, SC
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:15 am to
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Florida plays Tennessee, Kentucky, and LSU twice and has already played Auburn, State, and Bama on the road. Come on


And we've already played Tennessee, Kentucky, and LSU on the road. We play at State on Saturday. We've already played Florida on the road as well. Florida has actually had an easier draw up to this point.
Posted by CNB
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:15 am to
You’d make a great ESPN writer
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:16 am to
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I mean, that is the logic being employed by OP and others in this thread.

What's your opinion on it?

Posted by CNB
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:16 am to
I find it shallow and pedantic
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:17 am to
here's another way to look at it

Assume a "middle" team loses to the top three either home or away, beats other middle teams at home and loses to them on the road, and beats the bottom both at home and on the road

South Carolina's schedule has been exactly that

Two losses to Tennessee
Loss to Kentucky
Loss to LSU
Wins against State, Ole Miss, and Auburn at home (other middle teams)
Wins at Georgia and at Vandy

Only game for SC outside of that archetype is their win at Florida, so let's say South Carolina is +1 so far

For Mississippi State

two losses to Kentucky
loss to LSU
split with Ole Miss (lost at home but won on the road, cancelling each other out)
split with Bama
beat Florida and Auburn at home
lost to SC on the road
win at Arkansas and Vandy

so they're even (or +1 if you consider Arkansas a middle team and not a bottom team)

South Carolina's been better but not by two-and-a-half games. How do you explain that? Schedule.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:17 am to
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but, if you win out, you can also get that NET up.

Wonder why our wins vs the SEC aren't increasing our NET?
This post was edited on 2/20/19 at 8:18 am
Posted by jptiger2009
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:18 am to
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LSU fans have been on a whole other level of strange these past few months.


don't loop me into a bunch. I've been an lsu basketball fan since I can remember.

But, it's been 10 years since we've had anything close to this, man. Think back to your Final 4 run. you know...a lot of people went nuts.
This post was edited on 2/20/19 at 8:19 am
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51274 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:18 am to
It is typical.

I don't think our team has a shot at making the tournament because of the non-con losses, but to simply brush off what the team has done in the SEC at this point as "easy scheduling" or "nothing special" while at the same time pumping your own team who is only 1 spot higher in the conference standings is just bad analysis.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:19 am to
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How do you explain that? Schedule.


I explain that LSU, UK and UT are good the rest are mediocre.
This post was edited on 2/20/19 at 8:20 am
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95906 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:20 am to
So MSU didn’t play Tennessee? And they split with Bama and Ole Miss

Lordy, I just can’t figure it out why they’re 2 1/2 games down. You must be right.
Posted by jptiger2009
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2009
9616 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:20 am to
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Wonder why our wins vs the SEC aren't increasing our NET?


because look at what you did outside the conference! you'll be between 50 and 60 if y'all win out, and that'll all be from conference wins.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:21 am to
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because look at what you did outside the conference! you'll be between 50 and 60 if y'all win out, and that'll all be from conference wins.

I knew the answer to this

Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
13454 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:25 am to
But they've had road games against the middle of the conference, which South Carolina hasn't yet. That's what stands out about their schedule to me

Would South Carolina win at Mississippi State or at Bama or at Ole Miss? Probably not. We'll see about the first soon
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
13454 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:27 am to
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I explain that LSU, UK and UT are good the rest are mediocre.

I don't think State is automatically a mediocre team because they lost in overtime at South Carolina.

Florida, Bama, Ole Miss, and even Auburn are mediocre, true
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95906 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:28 am to
So you just named two mediocre teams that MSU lost to but yeah let’s just focus on the South Carolina game
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:34 am to
shite happens on the road
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95906 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:34 am to
They lost to Ole Miss at home though

I can’t keep up jumping through all these hoops man
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:35 am to
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I don't think State is automatically a mediocre team because they lost in overtime at South Carolina.

What about ASU are they medicore?

Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
13454 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:36 am to
And they beat them on the road, thus cancelling out

I'm not gonna be able to explain it any better than I did with the full run-through of schedules. TLDR, South Carolina hasn't had road games against "middle" teams.
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