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re: So does Texas also get kicked out of the SEC
Posted on 9/3/26 at 2:59 pm to houstonearler
Posted on 9/3/26 at 2:59 pm to houstonearler
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The distinctions are the LSU signed contracts with NFL teams. And were rostered by them. Not that they played better.
Why do you think one player was offered a contract while the other was not? This is all so stupid and nonsensical, devoid of logic.
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The SEC gets to decide how it wants to enforce its rules on members.
Unless the Louisiana Supreme Court (or any other state court) finds that the SEC's proceedings have not been conducted fairly and honestly where it’s conduct is fraudulent beyond it. That is why we are where we are today.
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:00 pm to houstonearler
Melt
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:01 pm to houstonearler
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He is not a pro as the SEC defines it. They issued clear bright lines earlier this week. I think LSU also has a guy under similar circumstances. Did not declare early, only did minicamp tryout and never was rostered or signed contract.
You so conveniently leave out the other rule that they must withdraw from the draft, which he did not. It's Rule #1 and you just breeze right by it to justify your guy. So, he is a pro as the SEC defines it.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:02 pm to Townedrunkard
Melt
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:02 pm to LSUtigerNVegas9
The most important part of this case is not whether Lane engineered or recruited the players. It is the dec action confirming the SEC and Sankey's right to sanction LSU under the bylaws. I expect that to be pretty easily decided in favor of the SEC.
The SEC is allowed to be inconsistent or even nonsensical. Because it is a voluntary association. LSU as a member of the SEC vested Sankey in the bylaws with sweeping powers to discipline members for conduct detrimental to the league and the discretion to decide how to determine what constitutes such conduct.
So many people here do not understand the legal principles in play. It does not matter if you think it is unfair how the SEC draws the lines. They have the power to draw them how they want.
The federal court judge will make this very clear in his order granting the SEC relief. It is not even that complicated of a case.
The SEC is allowed to be inconsistent or even nonsensical. Because it is a voluntary association. LSU as a member of the SEC vested Sankey in the bylaws with sweeping powers to discipline members for conduct detrimental to the league and the discretion to decide how to determine what constitutes such conduct.
So many people here do not understand the legal principles in play. It does not matter if you think it is unfair how the SEC draws the lines. They have the power to draw them how they want.
The federal court judge will make this very clear in his order granting the SEC relief. It is not even that complicated of a case.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:04 pm to stuckintexas
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You so conveniently leave out the other rule that they must withdraw from the draft, which he did not. It's Rule #1 and you just breeze right by it to justify your guy. So, he is a pro as the SEC defines it.
Cole Hutson never declared for the draft. That rule only applies to underclassmen. Seniors do not declare for the draft. He was eligible for the draft at the time. But he did not ever declare for it. He did nothing.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:08 pm to houstonearler
No one, and I mean absolutely no one can punish someone for not following a rule that the court deemed so far to be illegal.
Now, after Mizzou getting named in a TRO only strengthened LSU’s position. We don’t have to follow any rule that will open us up to civil litigation where we would be required to pay punitive damages.
And you use voluntary association like it’s a legal shield to make up whatever rule you want. So if the SEC were to say we’re banning black people, gays, and transgenders from playing in the SEC. Should schools follow that?
That’s how insane you sound right now.
Now, after Mizzou getting named in a TRO only strengthened LSU’s position. We don’t have to follow any rule that will open us up to civil litigation where we would be required to pay punitive damages.
And you use voluntary association like it’s a legal shield to make up whatever rule you want. So if the SEC were to say we’re banning black people, gays, and transgenders from playing in the SEC. Should schools follow that?
That’s how insane you sound right now.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:11 pm to houstonearler
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The SEC is allowed to be inconsistent or even nonsensical. Because it is a voluntary association.
To the extent your (nonsensical) statement above is true, the SEC's ability to hand out punishments on an inconsistent basis is absolutely reviewable by the courts. If the SEC is dumb enough to walk into court and assert their power on the basis of random nonsensical whims, this conference is facing its own imminent demise.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:12 pm to tBrand
Well you pretty much have done it in your last two conferences. 
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:15 pm to houstonearler
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Cole Hutson never declared for the draft. That rule only applies to underclassmen. Seniors do not declare for the draft. He was eligible for the draft at the time. But he did not ever declare for it. He did nothing.
He also did not withdraw his name as an eligible pick. His intention was to go pro. Did not withdraw means he's a pro.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:15 pm to Bryno1960
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What exactly makes someone a professional athlete?
The SEC defined this in the rule.
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Declared for a professional draft (NFL, NBA, or WNBA) and failed to withdraw properly.
Signed a professional contract with an NFL, professional football league, NBA, G-League, WNBA, or affiliated team.
Been listed on a roster for any of these professional leagues or teams
Much of LSU fans’ anger on this is for the same reason they get so angry about officiating. They don’t know what the rules actually say, they just know what they want them to say.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:17 pm to LSUtigerNVegas9
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a rule that the court deemed so far to be illegal
There has been no such ruling. There have been no rulings at all yet.
A TRO simply perserves the status quo until a hearing can be held on the merits of an injunction, and it can be litigated further from there.
No designation of legality has been made either way.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:20 pm to captdalton
I hope everyone realizes that you do in fact have to sign a contract to attend mini camp. It’s obviously not the same as a full on NFL deal, but it is certainly a contract that waives liability and outlines daily pay rates, housing, etc.
Folks acting like these guys just walk up to mini camp with their gym bags and get to work…
Folks acting like these guys just walk up to mini camp with their gym bags and get to work…
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:22 pm to houstonearler
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Hutson never signed a NFL contract nor was he ever rostered.
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He went undrafted in the 2026 NFL Draft, then attended rookie minicamps (tryouts) with the Cleveland Browns and Dallas Cowboys.
So answer me this.
Until 2026 has a college football player ever declared himself eligible for the draft, went to multiple mini camps ( tryout ) in a attempt to become a professional player. Failed then returned to his college team?
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:25 pm to Bryno1960
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Seems like the line between college and professional athletes has gotten pretty blurry these days.
It is only blurry for those that refuse to see.
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:27 pm to dltigers3
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Folks acting like these guys just walk up to mini camp with their gym bags and get to work
This is the part where they amend the rule one more time. They'll say the contract must grant something of value to the player. And then when somebody points out that value is being conferred to the player, namely the chance to make the NFL team, they'll change the rule again.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:28 pm to Townedrunkard
Aggie 100% is. They had a basketball pro on their roster the day they voted to approve the new rules.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:28 pm to wdhalgren
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This is the part where they amend the rule one more time. They'll say the contract must grant something of value to the player. And then when somebody points out that value is being conferred to the player, namely the chance to make the NFL team, they'll change the rule again.
That’ll be tough because there is a daily pay rate that everyone receives at minimum camp. So they are being paid by the NFL to participate. Seems like the exact definition of a professional
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:29 pm to stuckintexas
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He also did not withdraw his name as an eligible pick. His intention was to go pro. Did not withdraw means he's a pro.
He didn’t have to, he was not an underclassman. All college football players who have used up their eligibility are automatically entered into the draft.
I will put it in baseball terms so maybe you will understand. High school seniors automatically become eligible for the MLB draft when they graduate. They don’t enter the draft, they are entered. A high school grad who is selected in the MLB draft is still eligible to play college baseball as long as they don’t sign a contract or accept a signing bonus. They can decide to play college baseball, or they can sign with the team who drafted them. Or they can go work construction. But if they do sign a pro contract they are no longer eligible to play college ball.
Once again someone is mad because they don’t understand the rule they are mad about.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 3:32 pm to dltigers3
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That’ll be tough because there is a daily pay rate that everyone receives at minimum camp. So they are being paid by the NFL to participate. Seems like the exact definition of a professional
Once again a Tiger is mad because they don’t understand the rules or laws.
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The IRS does not consider per diem payments as taxable income, as long as they stay at or below the federal rate.
The IRS does not consider per diem as income. So by law they did not pay him.
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