re: SEC moving away from 2 divisions and no 4 team pods

Thanks, I knew we were up there. We’ve been playing for so long I’d hate to see it end

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SEC moving away from 2 divisions and no 4 team pods by gravy553
So what happens when there are multiple teams with the same record? Because that will happen.


Now you see the major flaw with this (made even worse when the tied teams vary in common opponents).

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It will be interesting to see if the SEC will try to maintain the existence of the Championship Game with the advent of the 12 team playoff.

Several years ago, Navy played in the AAC championship game. Their starting QB was injured in that game and could not play in against Army the next week. Army won the game and broke a 14 game losing streak in the rivalry.

Can you imagine the absolute meltdown if we had a 12-team playoff this year, both LSU and Georgia were guaranteed to be in it, and either Stetson Bennett or Jayden Daniels got hurt in the game?

In a 2-team or 4-team model, the SECCG has been a overall benefit for the winner in getting into the BCSCG/Playoff. (Yes, there are outliers: Auburn dropping in 2017, Alabama advancing in 11 & 17, UGA advancing in 21. But winning it certainly helped LSU in 03, UF in 06, LSU in 07, and Auburn in 13).

That benefit goes away when both teams are locks to get in.

JMHO.

GEAUX TIGERS!

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would there be a conference title game? if so, why?

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To break the inevitable 3 and 4 team ties to crown a champion. Pretty important since the champion is the one with the automatic bid, top 4 seed, and 1st round bye in the 12-team playoff.

We’re trying to take the goddamn power away from the committee by settling it on the field, this is just gonna give them more power and the haves will continue to get the benefit of the doubt over the have-nots. As an LSU fan, I won’t bitch about it because we’ll more than likely get the benefit of the doubt more times than not. But there will be some teams absolutely hosed because the committee “knows” they know who’s better by the “eyeball test,” yet every week proves none of us know shite. As much as we think we might.

And if you don’t think that 1st round bye and what I hope (but doubt) would be a quarterfinal hosting to the higher seeds won’t be a HUGE advantage to the top 4 conference champions, you’re crazy.

What year was it that Texas, Texas Tech, and Oklahoma all beat each other to finish 11-1 and the tie-breaker came down to who was ranked higher in the BCS? Well, the BCS was half made up of objective computers, right? Kind of, but they were also programmed by flawed human beings that by no nefarious reasons, brought their own subjective biases into their particular algorithms. And the other half was the polls, who were not above manipulating their votes to either get the team they wanted in in, or keep the one they didn’t want out. And they very well have been well-meaning. But we’re humans filled with hubris, thinking we can evaluate 130 teams with completely different schedules and just know who’s best or more deserving, despite getting proven wrong week after week, year after year.

There will inevitably be 3 or 4 1-loss SEC teams in this format that head-to-head won’t be able solve. And we’re putting more goddamn power in the hands of humans when the goal—I thought—was to put less.

LSU will get Ole Miss, A&M, and hopefully Florida.

Gonna be pissed if we lose the yearly Tom Petty Tribute Game!!!

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I'm not even going to try to do the harder math; this seems ripe for multiple ties.

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With 16 teams playing totally different schedules, there will likely be ties every single year. The only question is will they be 2-ways, 3-ways, or 4-ways? I foresee some pretty brutal unforeseen consequences will pop up almost immediately.

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And how will they decide who plays who?

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More than likely it will be a 9 game conference schedule. 3 games will be permanent opponents that your school will play every year. The other 6 will rotate through the 12 other teams so that you end up with a home and home against every other team within a 4 year cycle.

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With 16 teams playing totally different schedules, there will likely be ties every single year. The only question is will they be 2-ways, 3-ways, or 4-ways? I foresee some pretty brutal unforeseen consequences will pop up almost immediately.

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The tiebreaker system for the sec championship will need to be robust.

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It’s stupid moving away from divisions. First traditional rivals are what makes CFB. “Can’t wait to play xxxx next year”.

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Loses some of its luster when you have to play them twice in the same season.

12-game CPF will have potential to play your traditional rival 3 times in the same season.

"Just whipped your arse, can't wait to play you again in a couple of weeks, and maybe again in another month!"

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Fixed it for you.

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Meh. We have tiebreakers with divisions now. Few years back UGA won the east in a 3-way/round robin tie that was decided by the BCS ranking. It's not new, it will just be different stuff people will complain about.