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There is a big difference between having money and having the will to spend money. Nobody would say that LSU alumni are the richest group in college football, but we have clearly shown that our alumni have the will to spend money.

I'm not sure Bama alumni have become as desperate as LSU alumni were halfway through last season.

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Was "Everybody's All American" a fictionalized version of the LSU player?


Yes and no.

The film was set at "Louisiana University", with some ridiculous band-aids applied to not use any LSU branding. Why? Because they wanted some legal defense against the inevitable comparisons of Gavin Grey to Billy Cannon.

However, the film didn't exactly avoid those comparisons. Grey wears #20, is the hero of the Sugar Bowl, and has a successful, but not Hall of Fame worthy, pro career (for an AFL team). But going too close to Cannon in 1988, only two years after his release from prison for counterfeiting, wasn't something they wanted to touch. Cannon considered suing anyway, but dropped the idea after watching the film.

The original Frank Deford story was set at the University of North Carolina, but UNC did not want to work with the project.

That's different from Forest Gump, where the whole point of the story was to have him meeting famous real people. Some fictitious version of the University of Alabama would not have worked.

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That’s pretty cool, but I thought the original was in the Smithsonian.

Were talking about two different models.

This is the first model built off of the Matt Jefferies drawings. It's 33-inches long and mostly appeared as the high-speed flyby model in the series.

Here is a photo of it being shown to Jeffery Hunter during the filming of the first pilot:


For many years, Gene kept it on his desk:


The model in the Smithsonian is 11-feet long and was the major (or "hero") model filmed during the run of the series. The vast majority of the scenes from the series are of this model. After the second pilot, it was upgraded with lights and small motors for the effects.

Here is it being delivered near the end of the filming of the first pilot, "The Cage". It appears only in the opening shot of that episode:


Here is an example of what she looked like while filming for the series, specifically the episode "Space Seed." Note the hair of the dude behind the blind turning her base during a shot.


Among the other reasons to disqualify the 2020 Bama team, the fact that they only played SEC teams is totally negated by the restrictions on practices that year. Nobody had a good defense because they could only practice contact in a very limited way.

So, all of the offensive "records" Bama likes to point to in support of that team are boosted by the situation that wasn't true for any other season.

Cheers.
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I'm with this guy. 2011 Bama was by far the 2nd best SEC team ever in my opinion. Outside of 2019 LSU, nobody's beating that team.


Except for 2011 LSU who actually beat them earlier in the season.


Interesting thing about the 2011 season is that while I was watching the GOTC, I was never worried. It wasn't because I knew LSU would win. Rather, it was because I knew it would take the "best of all time" to beat that LSU team.

In fact, I wasn't nervous about any game that year, until Maze's 42-yard punt return in the BCSNCG. Why? Because it was six-times the number of punt return yards the Tigers had given up total all season. It was a big indicator that something was wrong.

So, while I think they shouldn't have gotten the rematch, and I think a large part of LSU getting shut out was Les Miles' bad coaching, I'm okay with saying that 2011 Bama might be the #2 SEC team of all time.

Just note that even with that, I believe the 2011 LSU defense was better than the 2011 Bama defense, because they did two things Bama didn't have to do:
1) Play an out of conference team with a top-40 offense, while LSU played two: Oregon and West Virginia.
2) Get Jordan Jefferson to a national championship game.

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I think it has been well established that Saban really liked his stay in Baton Rouge. He also told Jimmy Sexton that he wanted to be "the next Bear Bryant," rather than the "next Don Shula."

But it was clear at the time that Saban desired to test the waters in the NFL. If you recall, he was getting interest from NFL teams every year he was in Baton Rouge. I've seen it written many years ago that he told Skip around Thanksgiving that he loved it here, but that the Dolphins were giving him everything possible (not only head coach, but also general manager). If he turned it down, he was giving up on the NFL, and he didn't want to do that.

I think he really was torn over the decision. Mostly, he didn't realize how different the 2005 NFL was from the 1994 NFL he remembered. Unfortunately, the only big team looking for a coach in the 2006 cycle was the one place that rewards great coaches the most.

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They did a great job on the refurbishment.

The Jim who runs the YouTube channel Trek World was instrumental in connecting Eugene Roddenberry to the original EBay lister and getting it all put back together. If you are interested in this kind of thing, he is a great follow.

Live Long and Prosper.
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WasYork... Giants and Syracuse


My Bills fan friend will pointedly correct you that the Giants are in New Jersey. :lol:

(Though, the '68 Jets playing in Shea Stadium do count.)

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Sidebar, did anyone else prefer it the 1st time we did the Nike purples and they had a little more blue than red like the ones they do now?


There has always been some variance in the exact shade of purple for the jerseys. Just part of the deal.

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re: LSU-Oklahoma 2003

Posted by Thorny on 7/29/26 at 4:21 pm to
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A friend who was a BIG TAF money-type was having breakfast with Saban & 2 other TAF'ers game day breakfast at the team hotel. Saban made a comment: " they have no idea what they're getting ready to get hit with".


The night before the game, I was at my in-laws house and we were watching some type of preview special (I think on WBRZ). It showed how the Tigers were spending their non-practice time and one of the things they showed was Nick Saban dancing to James Brown.

My father-in-law immediately said, "If he's that relaxed, this thing is over."

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re: LSU walkout for clemson

Posted by Thorny on 7/27/26 at 3:25 pm to
How about LSU run through the band playing Fight for LSU and then destroy Clemson because they focused on that and not pregame showmanship?

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IMHO, he has 4 years to make a national semifinal. (We cut Kelly loose when it became impossible for him to reach that goal.)

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A couple of cautions:

- Nobody had a good defense in 2020. Teams couldn't have a spring and they couldn't practice full contact. So, yes, this is impressive against a Saban-led team, let's not draw too much from it.

- That same Ole Miss team lost to an LSU team that had imploded and just won a weird, miraculous game against Florida.

I hope you are right.

re: Whit Weeks on OTB

Posted by Thorny on 7/23/26 at 5:57 pm to
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With that said, the offense was severely handicapped with an injured QB and a shite OL.


I will grant the QB injury part with Nuss.

However, the OL stinking for the second year in a row is inexcusable. We had two high draft picks at tackle in '24 and couldn't get a push to run the ball. '25 was the worst OL I've seen in all my years of watching LSU, and they really weren't as injured as the '24 squad. That's on the offensive coaching staff, including the OC.
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Exactly. If Brees had retired, Brady is in New Irleabs with Payton for that season.


Well, maybe. However, Tampa Bay had Bruce Arians, another great offensive mind. It's possible Brady would have still gone there (if only to exploit his "TB" trademark).

What hurt was watching Brees in the playoffs. He clearly no longer had the arm to run the offense, and even as a Bucs fan (Saints are my #2 team), it was hard watching him go out that way.
1988 Miami (3-44 L). The facts have already been covered extensively on this one, but if you claim to have been in the stadium for the whole game, you must have been in Tiger Band with me. Everyone else, including the Miami fans, left by early 4th quarter.

Dishonorable mention: 1985 Florida (0-20 L). I think LSU must have had something less than 150 yards, Florida scored their two touchdowns on long runs, and was one of the most boring games I can remember.

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I thought that some guy claimed on here years ago that he went through the film reel and could disprove that guy's story. At the very least, I'd doubt that he would have run on the field like that mid-play, especially to signal the go-ahead TD against the team that he was rooting for.


I am unfamiliar with that argument, but I would discount it (and believe the fake ref story.) If you look at the 1:20 point of the below video, you can see that nobody seems to be standing on the far sideline between the 20 and 25. At 1:17, Cannon is breaking a tackle at the 20 and now the 'ref' is running on the field at the 22-23 yard line. If he were a real ref, why would he not be on the sideline and visible as the punt goes by?

I choose to believe.

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I actually don't think Ole Miss claims that one.

I mean, they aren't Alabama or Auburn.

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“Based on my experiences with Terrion, I remain committed to supporting him. While I’m not overly familiar with or educated on the charges he is facing,


Based on my experience working on disciplinary issues with Air Force squadron commanders, anytime the above sentence is said or written, I immediately discount their opinion on the case. They admit they don't know anything but want to affect the outcome in favor of their friend.

That's not how this is supposed to work.
Navy, a team that has to replace their QB, top WR, and top RB, at #20?

I'm a Navy supporter as my son and brother are grads, but this is highly unlikely.

GO NAVY! BEAT ARMY!
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Ole Miss gave up a total of 21 points that whole season. And that punt return was 1/3 of that.


My father-in-law was a freshman at that game, and he maintains that Ole Miss team was the best visiting team he ever saw in Tiger Stadium. Better than 79 USC; better than 79 Bama. Best.

That one play cost Ole Miss the national title.