| Favorite team: | LSU  |
| Location: | Montgomery, AL |
| Biography: | Played tuba in Tiger Band 85-89 |
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| Occupation: | Air Force Retired |
| Number of Posts: | 2458 |
| Registered on: | 5/31/2008 |
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What exactly is the main point that we should take out of your statistical analysis? I'm sure I missed it.
Two things:
1) Alabama is historically much better than LSU. This is especially true of their elite coaches.
2) There is some type of home field disadvantage going on in this series that defies logic. Logically, if a team were to win 67.5% of the games in a series, they would most likely have won over 85% at home and around 50% on the road. That's reversed and there's no logical reason for it. In fact, Bama has a better winning percentage vs. LSU in Tiger Stadium than 3 of the 4 places we've played them in Alabama (In Montgomery, Bama is 2-0, but we haven't played there since 1930).
For example, LSU beats Mississippi State 68% of the time (76-36-3) (Yeah, that means Bama beats us like we beat State-UGH!). In Baton Rouge, LSU wins 73% of the time (52-19-1) and only 58% of the time (24-17-2) in various Mississippi venues.
Conversely, Alabama beats Tennessee 58% of the time (60-41-7). In Alabama, Bama wins 63% of the time (33-18-6) and only 54% of the time in Tennessee (27-23-1).
I seriously doubt you could find another rivalry where the home team is at such a statistical disadvantage.
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Will the first rd be on the old conference championship weekend?
It doesn't appear to be. They've moved the Heisman presentation to that weekend, and it looks like they moved Army-Navy to that weekend. Which would mean that the playoffs would start the following weekend (I mean, most of the Heisman finalists are going to be on playoff teams, aren't they?)
Just how I see the announcement.
GEAUX TIGERS!
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Had to say it twice. That playoff loss must still sting
Boy, it sure looked like UGA took it personally Saturday night. Wow.
GEAUX TIGERS!
re: The Bama game and finally thoughts. We can move on folks
Posted by Thorny on 11/9/26 at 2:14 pm to Alltheway Tigers!
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Meanwhile, Alabama had seen enough of LSU’s defense to exploit opportunities, and the pass rush became less effective. LSU still took the lead in the third quarter, but Bama’s immediate answer was decisive. To me, Alabama didn’t physically dominate LSU. They stayed patient, denied LSU the early points that would have forced a change in strategy, and eventually took control. LSU had opportunities to dictate the game and failed to capitalize.
This is exactly how Alabama beat Kentucky and Texas A&M as well. It's the nature of their team. Both of those games looked close at half but ended up being blowouts. Now, Kentucky is good and Texas A&M isn't, but Bama's ability to dominate the second half has been impressive in their wins. (UGA might be the best in the nation and Bama had 4 players out against Tennessee who played LSU.)
I don't know how far they will go in the playoffs, but they are a very dangerous team for anyone who can't get a big lead on them.
GEAUX TIGERS!
re: Bama has a spell on LSU
Posted by Thorny on 11/9/26 at 1:55 pm to Good Times
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Partial blame may be the fact that we wear our “home” white jersey. This allows them to wear their red home jerseys. I think the look works against us.
As bad as the LSU record is at home against Bama, since 1980 it's worse wearing the purple jerseys: 0-6-1.
re: Replace Entire O Line
Posted by Thorny on 11/9/26 at 1:26 pm to FLObserver
LSU has underrecruited at OL for at least a decade. How many classes under Orgeron and Kelly, or even late in the Miles era, did LSU only sign 4 OL? Plenty. Yes, we get good players, but eventually the numbers catch up with you. Not every stud in HS is a contributor in college. Think of it this way, when you can recruit a full team each year, why would you not recruit a full line.
Louisiana not being the greatest place for high school linemen didn't help, but the numbers are just not there.
I expect Kiffin to address this.
GEAUX TIGERS!
Louisiana not being the greatest place for high school linemen didn't help, but the numbers are just not there.
I expect Kiffin to address this.
GEAUX TIGERS!
Bama has statues of their coaches who have won "national titles": Wade, Thomas, Bryant, Stallings, and Saban. So, let's compare, shall we (For the in Alabama numbers, I have compiled games in Tuscaloosa, Birmingham, Montgomery, and Mobile. I have also left out games before 1906 as the OP did and left out the two games in New Orleans (0-1-1))
Vs Wade (1923-1930): 0-1-0 in BR, 0-2-1 in Alabama
Vs Thomas (1931-1946): 1-1-1 in BR, 0-0 in Alabama
Vs Bryant (1958-1980): 1-8-0 in BR, 3-8-0 in Alabama
Vs Stallings (1990-1996): 0-4-0 in BR, 1-2-0 in Alabama
Vs Saban (2007-2022): 2-6-0 in in BR, 3-6-0 in Alabama*
Totals: 4-20-1 (.180 winning percentage) in BR, 7-18-1 (.288) in Alabama
Versus all other Alabama coaches: 6-11-1 in BR (.361), 8-8-1 in Alabama (.500)
Bottom Line: This is a really weird rivalry. Obviously, Bama is overall better, but in all categories, LSU plays against them better in Alabama than in Baton Rouge. Even among their legendary coaches, only Wade has more wins in Alabama than in BR.
*If you remove the overtimes in 2008, 2011, 2014, & 2022, LSU's record against Saban moves to 1-4-3 in BR and 2-6-1 in Alabama.
Vs Wade (1923-1930): 0-1-0 in BR, 0-2-1 in Alabama
Vs Thomas (1931-1946): 1-1-1 in BR, 0-0 in Alabama
Vs Bryant (1958-1980): 1-8-0 in BR, 3-8-0 in Alabama
Vs Stallings (1990-1996): 0-4-0 in BR, 1-2-0 in Alabama
Vs Saban (2007-2022): 2-6-0 in in BR, 3-6-0 in Alabama*
Totals: 4-20-1 (.180 winning percentage) in BR, 7-18-1 (.288) in Alabama
Versus all other Alabama coaches: 6-11-1 in BR (.361), 8-8-1 in Alabama (.500)
Bottom Line: This is a really weird rivalry. Obviously, Bama is overall better, but in all categories, LSU plays against them better in Alabama than in Baton Rouge. Even among their legendary coaches, only Wade has more wins in Alabama than in BR.
*If you remove the overtimes in 2008, 2011, 2014, & 2022, LSU's record against Saban moves to 1-4-3 in BR and 2-6-1 in Alabama.
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Will be the new learing center scam
That scam is already well established in Los Angeles County, CA.
re: When did our fanbase become so soft?
Posted by Thorny on 11/8/26 at 10:00 pm to Paul Allen
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Same thing was said about Kelly in 2022.
I am sure Brian Kelly knew what was wrong with that team and knew how to fix it.
He just wasn't willing to do the work.
re: Stadium Atmosphere
Posted by Thorny on 11/7/26 at 7:46 pm to Tigahtildeath
He used to be a member of Alabama's band. Try again.
re: Stadium Atmosphere
Posted by Thorny on 11/7/26 at 6:51 pm to TigerCat33
Bama friend of mine said it was the loudest stadium experience he has ever had.
re: Blame who you want
Posted by Thorny on 11/7/26 at 6:20 pm to FutureRATeammember
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It's the o line. You clowns dont know ball. We have to Scheme around our o line.
This.
We can't run up the middle on short yardage. Our guards are not mean enough. Seaton was just standing there when his guy got their last 4th down sack.
I expect this to get better. But, it sucks tonight.
GEAUX TIGERS!
LSU out gained Bama by 170 yards. There was plenty of fight, but Bama made the clutch plays. Congrats.
re: 15 Years Ago Tonight
Posted by Thorny on 11/5/26 at 9:44 am to Tiger Voodoo
If Russell Shepherd can keep his feet and score a TD at the end of the first half, the whole game is different in the second half. To me, that's the missed opportunity that hurt us the most. That 2011 LSU defense didn't give up leads.
GEAUX TIGERS!
GEAUX TIGERS!
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BCS with the computers was the purest ranking system there was.
Sure was….but politics got involved and they had to find a way to prevent two SEC teams from playing for the championship ever again.
Exactly.
Funny thing is that it wasn't the computers that gave the Gumps the rematch. It was the voters. Everyone in the media intentionally gaslights everyone on that point.
GEAUX TIGERS!!
Don't go doing something stupid, like getting yourself killed.
re: Why do 24 hour news channels suck so bad?
Posted by Thorny on 11/3/26 at 10:16 am to King of New Orleans
Because CNN killed Headline News for HLN and Nancy Grace.
It was the end of journalism as we know it.
It was the end of journalism as we know it.
re: 2000 LSU vs Bama game was a classic
Posted by Thorny on 11/2/26 at 5:02 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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Gumps claim the refs stole the game from them.
Of course they do. Because they are blind.
GEAUX TIGERS!
re: What is Scott Woodward up to these days?
Posted by Thorny on 10/30/26 at 9:22 pm to AtlantaLSUfan
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He has a good new job in the private sector. He’s just a regular baw now rooting for the Tigers with his full heart and soul. I was surprised how well he handled it.
To be fair, he probably has much less pressure on him in his new job.
Heart surgeons have less pressure on them than the LSU Athletic Director.
re: With the SEC Championship Game set to have its grand finale in December...
Posted by Thorny on 10/30/26 at 9:17 pm to Griffindawg
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Does anyone actually want to play in a conference championship game this year if you're already firmly in the playoff field?
Yes. To most of this conference the SEC championship means just as much as a natty. I will miss it. Any fan base saying they won’t is lying to themselves.
As a survivor of attending the 2011 SECCG and watching the 2011 BCSNCG, I can assure you that isn't true.
GEAUX TIGERS!!
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And now… the fact that LSU is being sued in Federal Court….by the SEC… for a case that LSU is now a co-defendant with the SEC is absolutely hilarious!!!
you understand these are two separate cases and have nothing to do with each other right?
Well, yes and no.
The SEC brought Wade's comments about building the basketball roster into the federal case. The response by LSU was to call out the SEC leaving significant context that Wade said at the same time, "we will follow SEC rules."
Now, while it may be legally true that these are two different cases and LSU is protected temporarily by this injunction, if Wade were to roster Luis, it pulls the LSU response off the table in the federal lawsuit. And, winning that lawsuit is the most important thing on LSU's agenda right now.
If I were Wade, I would not roster Luis. It's not cowardice to choose what is right for the institution, IMHO.
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