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re: Sounds like Kelly was shortchanged on resources compared to Kiffin
Posted by Thorny on 9/24/26 at 2:03 pm to Night Vision
According to an article in 24/7, LSU was third in NIL resources prior to the 2025 season at $20.1mil. Texas was the top team at $22.5mil and Ohio State was second at $20.2mil.
Kelly's problem in 2025 wasn't lack of resources relative to other schools. Additionally, this original Tweet does not consider the context. Yeah, losing to Ole Miss wasn't great, but we got road-graded by Vandy. Vandy!
To get rid of him, LSU had to go all in. In record amounts. Either it will work or it won't, and neither of us know which for sure at this point.
GEAUX TIGERS!!
Kelly's problem in 2025 wasn't lack of resources relative to other schools. Additionally, this original Tweet does not consider the context. Yeah, losing to Ole Miss wasn't great, but we got road-graded by Vandy. Vandy!
To get rid of him, LSU had to go all in. In record amounts. Either it will work or it won't, and neither of us know which for sure at this point.
GEAUX TIGERS!!
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Fony Clayton is gonna own them. They are gonna also sue the shite out of those playoff committee assholes for lack of response to Hutson and Chambliss
I don't think Wright and Harris will be able to establish standing for action against the playoff committee. Yes, their executive said something about pro players, but there was never a specific threat or a failure to rank a clearly qualifying LSU into a position of selection. The timing of all of this has let the CFP off the hook.
The SEC could lose millions, though.
JMHO.
re: Will Wade press conference 1:00 pm today BOOT UP
Posted by Thorny on 9/24/26 at 9:54 am to ellessuuuu
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I'm sorry you are struggling to understand the language in the SEC's rule and the reality that Wright and Harris were different than other players on SEC rosters (it's an arbitrary distinction, but a distinction nonetheless).
Now, I understand there is a difference, and the Bediako case might give us a glimpse into why Wright and Harris could have eventually lost their case moving forward. However, no court has found the distinction you are asserting.
For the SEC's case to only apply against Wright and Harris, the specifications in the new rule must be interpreted with "and" between each. However, the rule explicitly says "or" at the end of the second specification. This means that every player who attended a minicamp could be considered as having "previously declared for the NFL draft, and did not appropriately withdraw." At least, until they were not invited to camp, meaning they weren't the ones who decided.
Therein lies the problem: The SEC has pursued extremely punitive damages against LSU alone for the purpose of preventing Pyburn, Wright, and Harris from exercising the rights they had already secured through a TRO against the NCAA at the time the rule was released. (Pyburn being signed to the Chiefs practice squad makes his claim moot.)
Bediako only played five games and was eventually ruled ineligible. With that precedent, we can be reasonable sure that the SEC would be more than happy to pursue punitive damages against Wade if he really pushes on Luis.
But, the SEC has not yet won its case against Wright and Harris.
re: Kiffin will lead us to the promised land
Posted by Thorny on 9/23/26 at 10:57 am to ScootiniTiger
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Maybe, probably if he sticks around long enough. This could be his last stop to the promise land in college football.
There is literally nowhere else for him to go in college and actively coach.
1) At this time, LSU has the combination of resources and willingness to spend them that means he has everything he wants. Does Bama have more? Does Texas have more? Does Michigan have more? Maybe, but not all that much more. Not enough to convince him to leave the set up he has now.
2) Like it or not, Kiffin has been associated with all of the drama that went on over the last month. He was no more guilty than anyone else (and was accused by the SEC of things that didn't happen), but he has a reputation and the drama fed it. None of the above schools who might have more will and resources than LSU are going to stick their neck out for the drama. While certain fans at those schools might like hiring him away from LSU, the big money people won't put up the cash.
The above means that the issues following his departure from Ole Miss and Tennessee are irrelevant, overcome by events. For him, LSU is his ride or die, especially the way Dr Rousse and Verge backed him up.
I also don't think he's going to he NFL.
There are only two options for how this ends:
- LSU succeeds under Kiffin and he stays here a long time, perhaps winning championships.
- LSU doesn't succeed under Kiffin and he ends up on the set of College GameDay.
I think the first is more likely.
GEAUX TIGERS!!
re: Trey Dez Green injury.
Posted by Thorny on 9/22/26 at 5:30 pm to Spelt it rong
According to current NCAA and SEC policy, we are entitled to the following:
Out
Doubtful
Questionable
Probable
Game-time Decision
That's it, and most coaches fudge those categories.
Green will probably be listed as Out on tomorrow's report.
Out
Doubtful
Questionable
Probable
Game-time Decision
That's it, and most coaches fudge those categories.
Green will probably be listed as Out on tomorrow's report.
re: Finally an explanation bout why Ole Miss went for two so early
Posted by Thorny on 9/22/26 at 12:42 pm to Bengal tail
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Yes, but if we scored the touchdown instead of the FG, it would have been 32-31, so our last drive would of been a FG to win it 34-32 , that crappy 3rd down play came down to haunt us, just my 2cent.
That's not correct.
If we had gotten a TD instead of a FG to tie, that would have given us a 28-24 lead. This means Chambliss' TD would put Ole Miss up 30-28 prior to the PAT. Only an idiot coach would go for two up two. That would have made the last drive TD to win or FG to tie.
Not that football is that linear.
I hope you are right, but I have my doubts.
Either way, I'm more excited for LSU basketball than I have been in a while.
GEAUX TIGERS!
Either way, I'm more excited for LSU basketball than I have been in a while.
GEAUX TIGERS!
Unfortunately, Wade's situation is very different from Kiffin's.
This year's basketball team will not have a quality roster. Any expectation that they will compete for the post-season this year is unreasonably optimistic (if we do, Wade should be national coach of the year). You are hiring Wade because you think he is a long-term winner, not for this year.
Additionally, Wade is as polarizing as Kiffin is to the rest of the league (though for different reasons.) The talking heads will let people forget Nate Oats played a former G-League player, but they will never let us forget Wade's "damn strong offer."
Now, I think Wade is a good hire. But, we are going to be the villains and for this reason, we're going to be hearing a lot from fans of other teams every game we lose (and there will be plenty, even if this team wins more than last year.)
GEAUX TIGERS! BOOT UP!
This year's basketball team will not have a quality roster. Any expectation that they will compete for the post-season this year is unreasonably optimistic (if we do, Wade should be national coach of the year). You are hiring Wade because you think he is a long-term winner, not for this year.
Additionally, Wade is as polarizing as Kiffin is to the rest of the league (though for different reasons.) The talking heads will let people forget Nate Oats played a former G-League player, but they will never let us forget Wade's "damn strong offer."
Now, I think Wade is a good hire. But, we are going to be the villains and for this reason, we're going to be hearing a lot from fans of other teams every game we lose (and there will be plenty, even if this team wins more than last year.)
GEAUX TIGERS! BOOT UP!
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4 | LSU | $47–50 million | SEC 5 | Texas A&M | $45–50 million | SEC
6 | Miami | $44–50 million | ACC 7 | Notre Dame | $41–48 million | Independent
8 | Ole Miss | $39–45 million | SEC
Google AI gave me numbers at least $5 mil lower for both LSU and Ole Miss yesterday. Oh well.
Ole Miss wants to make people think there is a massive difference between NIL for LSU and NIL for Ole Miss. In reality, Ole Miss is spending somewhere above 78% of what LSU is spending.
This wasn't some type of David and Goliath story.
GEAUX TIGERS!
Post-Game Stadium taunt: has this happened in Tiger Stadium?
Posted by Thorny on 9/21/26 at 7:28 pm
Question for those who go to most games (and are there at the end).
It's a well known fact that when they get a win over Bama, Auburn's band plays the Rammer-Jammer cheer back in their face. I don't mind so much, because I think that cheer is in poor taste on Bama's part in the first place.
But in the last few years I'm seeing many more examples:
-- Vandy playing a video of Nick Saban saying how easy it is to win there after their win over Bama in 2024.
-- Vandy playing Calling Baton Rouge after their win over us last year.
-- Ole Miss playing Calling Baton Rouge and Neck (despite the LSU band not playing Neck for over a decade) Saturday night
Has the LSU game ops people done this for a big win, say like Bama in 22 or Ole Miss in 24?
LSU fans have gotten too loose in rushing the field for my taste, but this new trend seems to to say "bush league" to me.
It's a well known fact that when they get a win over Bama, Auburn's band plays the Rammer-Jammer cheer back in their face. I don't mind so much, because I think that cheer is in poor taste on Bama's part in the first place.
But in the last few years I'm seeing many more examples:
-- Vandy playing a video of Nick Saban saying how easy it is to win there after their win over Bama in 2024.
-- Vandy playing Calling Baton Rouge after their win over us last year.
-- Ole Miss playing Calling Baton Rouge and Neck (despite the LSU band not playing Neck for over a decade) Saturday night
Has the LSU game ops people done this for a big win, say like Bama in 22 or Ole Miss in 24?
LSU fans have gotten too loose in rushing the field for my taste, but this new trend seems to to say "bush league" to me.
Going into the 2011 BCS National Championship game, Les Miles had a 3-2 record against Nick Saban.
Nobody would say Les was a better coach than Nick.
Nobody would say Les was a better coach than Nick.
re: Were LSU fans this outraged about Hendon Hooker?
Posted by Thorny on 9/21/26 at 6:17 pm to SidewalkTiger
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I guess you'd have to ask those specific people. I have no problem with his age. I have no problem with Ole Miss doing all they can to make him eligible.
I have a problem with this conference picking and choosing when they want to determine eligibility.
THIS!
Several hundred players have been declared ineligible for various reasons by the NCAA and then gotten a TRO or preliminary injunction prohibiting the NCAA from enforcing their ineligibility. All but two have ended up being put on a roster.
Now, you may reasonably argue those two players should not have gotten TROs because they don't fit into the same bucket as the rest. However, the NCAA has had three chances in court to demonstrate that and haven't been able to do so.
So those two players are being treated differently for one reason: The SEC created a rule AFTER they got their TRO and then threatened to expel LSU from the SEC for the mere rostering of them. They sued in federal court to try to establish their right to prevent LSU from trying to claim damages if such an expulsion happened, going so far as including the Louisiana AG as a defendant essentially for submitting an Amicus Brief supporting those two in response to the SEC sticking their nose into the case.
Really, all the SEC had to do is to write the rule they ended up with during the May spring meeting and apply it to every player who did NFL OTAs. That's it. This would have prevented any of the feelings from LSU fans that we are being targeted by the SEC. The players may not have sued the NCAA at all if their only choice would been teams from the SWAC or SunBelt. And, after the Charles Bediako affair, they should have seen this coming.
You either follow all TROs or you open yourself to accusations of bias and hypocrisy. You also might find yourself having to defend yourself in court.
GEAUX TIGERS!
There's obviously a script. No point in watching it, IMHO.
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Saban didn’t have a $50m roster bro.
LSU's NIL is around $42mil, not $50mil (the latter number is an exaggeration by GTHOM fans)
GTHOM's NIL is around $35mil. This isn't exactly David and Goliath. Yes, LSU pays $7mil more, but as others point out we were building new and the law of supply and demand still apply.
Oh, and Saban was paying players plenty (just like pretty much everyone was).
We had already scored a TD on that formation and play in the first half.
I don't like going to a play like that a second time in the same game (since we don't have Darrin McFadden.)
I don't like going to a play like that a second time in the same game (since we don't have Darrin McFadden.)
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Expectations are high. And I say that I’m shocked, but I’m really not. Every loss this happens. Every single one. It’s like clockwork.
Nick Saban called it Catastrophe Syndrome way back when we loved him.
I got in a discussion about this over the summer with my family, who represent several other schools (Navy, Auburn, Notre Dame, Georgia). Their consensus was that LSU would fire Lane in a couple of years for his clownish ways not turning into results.
My position was that while, yes, Lane needs to improve certain things about game management, he has at least 4 years to get us to a national semifinal. After all, we didn't let Brian Kelly go until he was out of the playoff in his fourth year.
I stand by that, and I think Verge (and the money people) will give him that. The recent silliness with the SEC leadership solidified the support of the administration. Getting sued over fake outrage tends to make people circle the wagons.
This year's team could easily lose 4 games and draw the ridicule of plenty of college football fans. But, who cares? Lane is more open about everything going on around him and they don't know how to handle it. The train is coming for them.
GEAUX TIGERS!!!
My position was that while, yes, Lane needs to improve certain things about game management, he has at least 4 years to get us to a national semifinal. After all, we didn't let Brian Kelly go until he was out of the playoff in his fourth year.
I stand by that, and I think Verge (and the money people) will give him that. The recent silliness with the SEC leadership solidified the support of the administration. Getting sued over fake outrage tends to make people circle the wagons.
This year's team could easily lose 4 games and draw the ridicule of plenty of college football fans. But, who cares? Lane is more open about everything going on around him and they don't know how to handle it. The train is coming for them.
GEAUX TIGERS!!!
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CBS commercial breaks were maddening
If I were the commissioner of college football, TV commercial timeouts would be limited to one and a half minutes. Nobody in the stadium wants to watch a guy hold a countdown clock for five minutes so the people at home can watch the same Fansville commercial three more times during the game.
re: NFL bars Harris and Wright from visiting, trying out, or signing with a team this season
Posted by Thorny on 9/17/26 at 1:42 pm to iamandykeim
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This list is not inclusive of all 2026 draft-eligible players who returned to college.
why the frick not??
I am reading this as the ban will apply to other players like Hutson as well. Wright and Harris are named because they are not on a roster and someone in Drew Rosenhouse's office is asking questions.
Those questions could be part of cutting off a legal escape route for the SEC.
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We had the state AG speaking out on what was at the time a legal matter. That is not remotely on the same level.
The GA AG spoke about upholding legal action against LSU when he had no standing and when he had no idea that LSU was not a party to the Pyburn v. NCAA lawsuit that the SEC decided to stick it's nose into.
The LA AG submitted an amicus brief in the Pyburn lawsuit and got named as a defendant in the SEC v LSU lawsuit as a result.
So, yeah, these things aren't the same.
GEAUX TIGERS!
re: Here come the hit pieces
Posted by Thorny on 9/14/26 at 9:21 pm to Russianblue
The number of misquotes and non-sequiturs in the article are off the chart.
It is a fact that schools have attempted to recruit against Ole Miss' embrace of Confederate themes for decades. He's supposed to say things are "a-okay now"?
He's told his team to focus on the game and let the attention be on him. Isn't that taking responsibility for the circus on himself?
Kiffin has been more transparent about his actions than anyone else in college football. It's no wonder that Wolken doesn't know what that looks like.
GEAUX TIGERS!!!
It is a fact that schools have attempted to recruit against Ole Miss' embrace of Confederate themes for decades. He's supposed to say things are "a-okay now"?
He's told his team to focus on the game and let the attention be on him. Isn't that taking responsibility for the circus on himself?
Kiffin has been more transparent about his actions than anyone else in college football. It's no wonder that Wolken doesn't know what that looks like.
GEAUX TIGERS!!!
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