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Posted on 6/30/26 at 12:57 pm to
Posted by vengeanceofbrain
Member since Apr 2026
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Posted on 6/30/26 at 12:57 pm to
If he is gonna rank DeBoer and Venables that closely together, then Venables should be higher since he has a winning record vs Kalyn
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 6/30/26 at 1:01 pm to
#2. Lane Kiffin

#10 Pete Golding (Peg Leg Pete will be on the way out starting in Year 2. Matt Luke 2.0 incoming. Sorry North Central Mississippi Junior College at Oxford fans)
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 6/30/26 at 4:39 pm to
You are clearly interested in the idea that people can change their minds and their opinion of someone. You should explore your fellow LSU fans. Their opinion of Nick Saban changed drastically in just a few years. It went from love, even idolatry in some causes, to outright hate. LSU fans went as far as burning him in effigy at a pep rally. One stupid, drunk fan tried to fight him. The change was drastic. And very entertaining. You should look into it.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 6/30/26 at 4:41 pm to
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You are clearly interested in the idea that people can change their minds and their opinion of someone. You should explore your fellow LSU fans. Their opinion of Nick Saban changed drastically in just a few years. It went from love, even idolatry in some causes, to outright hate. LSU fans went as far as burning him in effigy at a pep rally. One stupid, drunk fan tried to fight him. The change was drastic. And very entertaining. You should look into it.


Weird deflection. Are you saying you're basically the same as those people?
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
24762 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 4:56 pm to
Are you saying most LSU fans are like me?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
72369 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 5:03 pm to
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Are you saying most LSU fans are like me?


It was your comparison, not mine.



At any rate, I think most people do change their opinions. I personally have changed mine many times. Most people do not suddenly have a lower opinion of a head coach when he's at an even higher peak of his career, as you did with Kiffin.

But I get it, LSU could hire Kirby and you'd have to find a way to trash it. Your LSU complex doesn't allow for anything else. We all know you'd have talked copious amounts of shite had Kiffin not made the move, you were already hedging your bets before an announcement was made.


Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
24762 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 5:12 pm to
You have never experienced this so you may not be able to understand, but rational or not most people have a much lower opinion of their ex after the breakup or divorce than during the relationship.

And I am not alone in my opinion of Kiffin.

Most of the sports world has a much lower opinion of him now than they did before seeing how he broke up with his Ole Miss team.

And it isn’t just an LSU thing. I loved Coach O. Sure he was a buffoon, but I think he genuinely loved his team and his players. With Kiffin every decision is a business decision based on what Lane Kiffin believes is best for Lane Kiffin, everyone else be damned.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
72369 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 5:15 pm to
quote:


You have never experienced this so you may not be able to understand, but rational or not most people have a much lower opinion of their ex after the breakup or divorce than during the relationship.



I understand Ole Miss being pissed, a supposed Alabama fan being pissed is a bit weird but okay.

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And it isn’t just an LSU thing. I loved Coach O. Sure he was a buffoon, but I think he genuinely loved his team and his players. With Kiffin every decision is a business decision based on what Lane Kiffin believes is best for Lane Kiffin, everyone else be damned.


Welcome to coaching in 2026. Alabama had to give its 4 loss a year head coach a raise and extension so he wouldn't bolt from the supposed GOAT college football program.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 6/30/26 at 5:15 pm to
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At any rate, I think most people do change their opinions. I personally have changed mine many times


You certainly did about Brian Kelly. Remember that? You would have taken a bullet for him. You spent years defending here with every ounce of your being. And then just like that you turned on him and hopped on the Lane Train.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
29316 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 5:22 pm to
1. Kirby
2. Sark


the rest..do not know. Pretty sure Lane is good despite never winning a conference title at very prestigious jobs(USC and Tenn). It was probably a ton to do woth his age and learning the ropes still. But he did win 2 AAC titles at FAU to be fair. He was very, very young as HC at Tenn. fricking 33...insane.
This post was edited on 6/30/26 at 5:23 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
72369 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 5:22 pm to
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You certainly did about Brian Kelly. Remember that? You would have taken a bullet for him. You spent years defending here with every ounce of your being. And then just like that you turned on him and hopped on the Lane Train.


Hyperbole aside, I said he was a good coach, I still think he's a good coach, and would've been okay if it were 2010. I think he never really adapted to Louisiana and NIL/the portal. His aloof CEO style didn't work in this era.

As I said, it's understandable to change an opinion of someone when it's clear the environment has changed, and they're no longer a factor. It's a lot more uncommon to change an opinion negatively when the coach is performing better, just because he took a job you didn't like. It's a bias that is understandable from Ole Miss fans, it looks rather pathetic on a supposed Alabama fan, however.


Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
29316 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 5:25 pm to
Brian Kelly is a very good coach. Just did not fit in at LSU at all. Did out west. He def needs to go back to Oregon or a California school.
This post was edited on 6/30/26 at 5:26 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
72369 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 5:26 pm to
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Brian Kelly is a very good coach


Careful. If you say that on this board it means you'd "take a bullet for him", or you're "defending him with every ounce of your being".



ETA- I think you're thinking of Chip
This post was edited on 6/30/26 at 5:32 pm
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
24762 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 5:32 pm to
quote:

Brian Kelly is a very good coach. Just did not fit in at LSU at all. Did out west. He def needs to go back to Oregon or a California school.


Are you thinking about Chip Kelly?

Brian Kelly was head coach at Grand Valley State (Michigan), Central Michigan, Cincinnati, Notre Dame and LSU.
Posted by NFLSU
Screwston, Texas
Member since Oct 2014
21103 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 5:42 pm to
Eat shite, Reek.

DePoor isn’t even a Top 5 coach.

And no, Lane Kiffin wants nothing to do with the absolute shitshow of a nosedive that is Alabumma
Posted by Gator Fever
Member since Sep 2021
5351 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 5:56 pm to
DeBoer and Sarkisian should be #2 and #3 based on the last 4 years of their coaching.
Posted by NFLSU
Screwston, Texas
Member since Oct 2014
21103 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 7:49 pm to
No coach that gets arse blasted by 35 points should be in the Top 5.

DePoor is a joke.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
35706 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 7:50 pm to
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#2 willingly left his team before he could win a CFP game.


Sounds like a quitter scared of the big stage.
Posted by Gator Fever
Member since Sep 2021
5351 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 8:04 pm to
DeBoer has multiple power conference championship game appearances the past 4 seasons and a power conference championship. 2 playoff appearances and a national championship game appearance. He has three 11+ win seasons the past four years.

Sarkisian with 2 final fours in the past 3 seasons is the only possible argument for DeBoer not being #2 behind Smart.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
29316 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 9:34 am to
I think most in CFB loved Coach O...one of the characters ever and always felt like he was honest.
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