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re: SEC Football programs that should be winning but can’t find their mojo

Posted on 3/14/24 at 12:23 pm to
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
3779 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

You had Hugh Freeze and Tubberville and couldn't keep them.


Freeze was fired with cause.
Tubbs is perfect for politics cause he lies like a sociopath.
Posted by Tnman
Tennessee
Member since Sep 2009
1949 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

It truly amazes me that Ole Miss and Missouri are playing at an elite level while Florida, Tennessee, and Auburn can’t reclaim their previous level of success


Last two seasons:
Elite Teams:
Missouri 16-9 (definitely elite)
Ole Miss 19-7 (definitely elite_

Not Elite Teams:
Tennessee 20-6 (not able to achieve success)

Got it! Thread checks out.
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
3779 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 12:32 pm to
Last 3 years:

Ole Miss: 29-10 (2 NY6 Bowls)
Tennessee: 27-12 (1 NY6 Bowl)

Tennessee has an overall losing record since Fulmer left 15 years ago. You had one good season last year. Relax.
Posted by Tnman
Tennessee
Member since Sep 2009
1949 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 12:38 pm to
I'm quite relaxed, looking forward to playing that elite Ole Miss squad in the future.
Posted by AUTiger789
Birmingham, AL
Member since Apr 2022
1611 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 12:46 pm to
Auburn’s level of success under Gus Malzahn would make Ole Miss and Missouri absolutely giddy.

In his first 7 seasons, he had an SEC Title, two SEC West Titles, a national title game appearance, and a 3-4 record over Bama which was better than any other program during that time period.

Eventually though, the Auburn powerbrokers (and a majority of fans BTW) got tired of the inconsistency and they pulled the trigger to get rid of him. They hired Harsin which was an absolute disaster and unfortunately will take 5-7 years or so to overcome.

It’s all about coaching hires. A bad hire sets you back.
Posted by Maytheporkbewithyou
Member since Aug 2016
12645 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 1:23 pm to
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Arkansas,


Correct. Those that have the real money don't care if the teams win or lose as long as the coach is there to kiss their arse.
Posted by SaturdayNAthens
Georgia
Member since Dec 2017
10957 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 1:29 pm to
I understand. Have you ever seen Columbia, SC?
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21355 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 2:08 pm to
Either that or they don't have a clue on what kind of expectations they desire.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21355 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 2:13 pm to
The real problem is the AD and the rest of the administration.

They have been botching hires since Petrino left.

They have no idea what they are doing ever since Frank retired.
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
1878 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 2:20 pm to
At least y'all had the balls to go out and steal a HC from a similar program (even though it didn't work out). I can guarantee Napier's replacement will be another "young up and coming" G5 coach.
Posted by rileygreene
Virginia
Member since Sep 2023
47 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 2:50 pm to
Your thread is retarded.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21355 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 3:05 pm to
I wouldn't say Arkansas stole Bert from Wisconsin. He wanted to get out of Madison and Arkansas just happened to have a vacancy.

It still wasn't a thorough search though.

I wanted either Chris Petersen or Mike Gundy.
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
3779 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:33 pm to
quote:

Auburn’s level of success under Gus Malzahn would make Ole Miss and Missouri absolutely giddy.


He’s literally the best coach you’ve had in 15 years.
Posted by SCgamecock2988
Columbia, SC
Member since Oct 2015
14088 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:36 pm to
Stoops is a soulless ginger has-been, of what exactly I don’t know..
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37699 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:38 pm to
quote:

For the life of me I can’t understand why South Carolina hasn’t been able to breakthrough when places like Kentucky have.

A name that shall live in UF and SC infamy ....

muschamp
Posted by TouchdownTony
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
9703 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:49 pm to
Florida and Auburn have historically had "spotty" success. Florida didn't win the SEC until 1991. Auburn is always up, down. UT is the one that baffles me. They were really good for a hundred years until Fulmer was let go and have never really gotten back.

Now as far as Ole miss and Mizzou, I'm not sure I would call them "elite". Maybe competitive is the word.
Posted by CelticTiger
Saint Louis
Member since Feb 2019
1140 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 6:16 pm to
quote:

Now as far as Ole miss and Mizzou, I'm not sure I would call them "elite". Maybe competitive is the word.



All depends on your time frame and your definition of elite. If you turned in a performance as the 8th or 9th best team out of 134 FBS teams that would land you in the top 6% or 7% respectively of the category. So I would submit that for the 2023-2024 season Mizzou and Ole Miss “played” at an elite level, which was the OP’s assertion.

Speaking for MIzzou only now…

Now does that make MU an elite “program”? Of course not.

Can Mizzou continue to perform at an elite level? We’ll just have to wait and see.
This post was edited on 3/14/24 at 6:24 pm
Posted by Loganville Vols
Loganville Georgia
Member since Feb 2021
866 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 6:19 pm to
Tennessee is on their way back.
Posted by Big Smiley
Member since Mar 2024
61 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 8:11 am to
quote:

SAY WHAT? Elite?

quote:

WTF have have you won? Absolutely NOTHING!


Still waiting on an answer. WTF has either of these "elite" teams won?
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
1878 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 9:30 am to
quote:

Florida didn't win the SEC until 1991.


quote:

Alabama Fan

Oh look, another Bama hypocrite.
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