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re: SEC cites "no firsthand evidence" of LSU wrongdoing in filing
Posted on 9/9/26 at 12:16 pm to Bamatab
Posted on 9/9/26 at 12:16 pm to Bamatab
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If that is the case then you tell me why they are in federal court today?
It's been explained multiple times.
They want protection from LSU should LSU be voted out.
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Posted on 9/9/26 at 12:16 pm to SidewalkTiger
Rule 11
There should be a prayer for it on every responsive pleading filed.
There should be a prayer for it on every responsive pleading filed.
Posted on 9/9/26 at 12:17 pm to Bamatab
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I think all they are hoping for is a federal court to rule that the can enforce their bylaws, and then hold the member institutions feet to the fire by holding the "2/3 to vote you out" bylaw over their heads so everyone stays in lockstep through this current time ok chaos in college athletics.
All I can say is be careful what you wish for if you're an SEC member institution. If you read the bylaws, the commissioner has pretty unwavering and unilateral power to do whatever he/she wants. Really the only thing that requires a vote is to change bylaws and to expel a member. The commissioner can pretty much punish punish anyone at his own discretion otherwise, and the severity of the punishment is also at his own discretion. We all voted on these bylaws once upon a time, but I don't believe anyone foresaw what college athletics would turn into or how draconian the commissioner would threaten to be to anyone who dared challenge his authority.
This post was edited on 9/9/26 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 9/9/26 at 12:17 pm to Bamatab
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If that is the case then you tell me why they are in federal court today?
Four posters just told you. Because the SEC wants cover that there will be no repercussions from LSU or anyone else for kicking LSU out.
Posted on 9/9/26 at 12:18 pm to SidewalkTiger
quote:I think that statement is the SEC walking this back and trying to save face at the same time
SEC cites "no firsthand evidence" of LSU wrongdoing in filing
Posted on 9/9/26 at 12:24 pm to Ponchy Tiger
I doubt they have anything.
The original suit was filed against the NCAA, not the SEC. Maybe Kiffin/LSU told players to sue the NCAA, but they had no way of knowing the SEC would get involved. They never had before.
Then there's the whole issue of this being 30 athletes, many being non football players. Why would Kiffin/LSU get involved with a bunch of players who aren't coming to LSU?
The original suit was filed against the NCAA, not the SEC. Maybe Kiffin/LSU told players to sue the NCAA, but they had no way of knowing the SEC would get involved. They never had before.
Then there's the whole issue of this being 30 athletes, many being non football players. Why would Kiffin/LSU get involved with a bunch of players who aren't coming to LSU?
Posted on 9/9/26 at 12:28 pm to SidewalkTiger
I think we are splitting hairs at this point. I said that I have no doubt that they are in court today because they want to be able to enforce their bylaws, one of which is they can vote any member out with 2/3 vote whenever they want, without having to go to court as a result over it, which includes LSU suing them over it (a bylaw that they agreed to btw).
I have also said that I don’t believe the SEC presidents actually intend on kick LSU out, they just want to make emphasize to every institution that it only takes 2/3 vote so everyone needs to be in lockstep with each other.
I have also said that I don’t believe the SEC presidents actually intend on kick LSU out, they just want to make emphasize to every institution that it only takes 2/3 vote so everyone needs to be in lockstep with each other.
Posted on 9/9/26 at 12:29 pm to Bamatab
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, which includes LSU suing them over it (a bylaw that they agreed to btw).
LSU has sued no one.
Posted on 9/9/26 at 12:29 pm to UpToPar
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Because the SEC wants cover that there will be no repercussions from LSU or anyone else for kicking LSU out.
They won’t get cover from Congress. The warning shots have all been tweeted.
Posted on 9/9/26 at 12:30 pm to Barstools
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Not having firsthand information and firsthand information not existing are completely different things.
You better have a witness that can testify with this information. Anonymous sources don't count in the court of law.
Posted on 9/9/26 at 12:32 pm to Bamatab
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I think we are splitting hairs at this point. I said that I have no doubt that they are in court today because they want to be able to enforce their bylaws, one of which is they can vote any member out with 2/3 vote whenever they want, without having to go to court as a result over it, which includes LSU suing them over it (a bylaw that they agreed to btw).
I have also said that I don’t believe the SEC presidents actually intend on kick LSU out, they just want to make emphasize to every institution that it only takes 2/3 vote so everyone needs to be in lockstep with each other.
Fair enough.
The conference can kick anyone out, but I can't see a world where they'll ever be fully protected from any repercussions when/if they do so.
Posted on 9/9/26 at 12:32 pm to SidewalkTiger
Firsthand evidence is not required.
Lane Kiffin admitted it.
Publicly.
Bragging about it even.
They filed in your local area, despite neither of them being from the area.
They came to your school.
They practiced.
LSU held roster spots for them.
You are guilty.
Lane Kiffin admitted it.
Publicly.
Bragging about it even.
They filed in your local area, despite neither of them being from the area.
They came to your school.
They practiced.
LSU held roster spots for them.
You are guilty.
This post was edited on 9/9/26 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 9/9/26 at 12:33 pm to Boom33
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Firsthand evidence is not required.
Lane Kiffin admitted it.
Publicly.
Bragging about it even.
He actually hasn't done that at all, even remotely.
Posted on 9/9/26 at 12:33 pm to Bamatab
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I think we are splitting hairs at this point. I said that I have no doubt that they are in court today because they want to be able to enforce their bylaws, one of which is they can vote any member out with 2/3 vote whenever they want, without having to go to court as a result over it, which includes LSU suing them over it (a bylaw that they agreed to btw).
It's not splitting hairs, it's an important distinction. And the SEC is not asking the court to rule that only LSU cannot file suit against the SEC for voting LSU out of the conference, they are asking the court to rule that "all persons acting in concert" with LSU, including the players, cannot file suit against the SEC.
Posted on 9/9/26 at 12:33 pm to pgaddxn
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nazis
Been a Dem very long?
Posted on 9/9/26 at 12:34 pm to SidewalkTiger
LSU Beat writer: "Trust us bro"
Posted on 9/9/26 at 12:34 pm to RB10
For you slow retards: Just because they arent in possession of the information doesnt mean it won't come out in discovery.
Posted on 9/9/26 at 12:35 pm to Boom33
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Firsthand evidence is not required.
I agree. Firsthand evidence is not required to eject a member.
But a responsible conference should probably have something besides news reports and Tweets.
Posted on 9/9/26 at 12:35 pm to Fearless and True
I’m as much dem as I am a national socialist.
I believe in liberty dear sir.
I can see you believe in immense government control.
Good luck with the world domination boot licker.
I believe in liberty dear sir.
I can see you believe in immense government control.
Good luck with the world domination boot licker.
Posted on 9/9/26 at 12:36 pm to Barstools
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For you slow retards: Just because they arent in possession of the information doesnt mean it won't come out in discovery.
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