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re: Schools promising NIL and not delivering on it
Posted on 9/25/24 at 2:53 pm to theballguy
Posted on 9/25/24 at 2:53 pm to theballguy
Also imagine 3wks on the job and you demand a raise
Posted on 9/25/24 at 3:03 pm to theballguy
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Imagine you've been offered a job making $100k per year, free health care, free education with opportunities to earn even more later on. You take the job and find you have everything except that $100k. How many of you would remain there? A downvote equals a lie you are telling everyone.
I’m getting a bit confused here. We hate nil and the players who are seeking it, but we love the players who get supposedly screwed not getting it?
Weird world we live in…
Posted on 9/25/24 at 6:40 pm to Clark14
I commend this guy because he actually saw that he was sitting on a timebomb and he decided to detonate it when he did - and for all the right reasons.


Posted on 9/25/24 at 7:47 pm to Victor R Franko
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They tell you that you can make up to 100k.
This is the sticking point. Did they promise "up to" or did they promise $100,000?
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:08 pm to theballguy
This situation is so totally predictable and forecasts what is to come with the NIL What surprises me is that how quickly the negative effects are already realized, not only with the UNLV quarterback's jumping ship after three games but also with the inevitable comparison to its being an employee vs. employer grievance. As many of us have noted, college football is completely ruined. Loyalty to the team and school is out. Prospects will now flip-flop faster that Kamala Harris on her so-called values. It will now be true that the national champion will be the best team that money can buy. Pitiful.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:30 pm to Tuscaloosa
UNLV QB Matthew Sluka and his family feel his
market value has gone up after wins against a 1-3 Kansas ,
a 0-4 Utah Tech and a 1-3 Houston ----- and they want
more dough ?
market value has gone up after wins against a 1-3 Kansas ,
a 0-4 Utah Tech and a 1-3 Houston ----- and they want
more dough ?

Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:46 pm to BamaRoo
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:32 pm to theballguy
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Imagine you've been offered a job making $100k per year, free health care, free education with opportunities to earn even more later on.
You take the job and find you have everything except that $100k. How many of you would remain there?
Do you have this job offer in writing? Do you have a signed employment contract?
Or did some guy you had never seen before promise you all this while you were standing at a urinal nervously peeing before your interview?
If it is the first scenario, I think you have a case and a reason to be upset.
If it is the second, you are just a gullible dumbass.
I swear some of you guys believed the carney at the county fair who yelled “step right up, everybody is a winner”.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:53 pm to theballguy
Imagine a company paying some one 100k and they only perform $100 worth of work...
Can schools take back money from those players that don't perform well?
Can schools take back money from those players that don't perform well?
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:23 pm to 3down10
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Yes, but it's not the schools themselves that are actually paying. They have no control over who gets what NIL money.
Dang Cuh. You dumb!
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:46 pm to TigerScorpion
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Dang Cuh. You dumb!
So you believe UNLV told their starting QB they've spent all summer and probably longer preparing their team to play behind they were going to give him $100k, only to give him nothing and let him walk.
That's what you think happened?
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:48 pm to theballguy
Do we know that’s what happened with that QB or is he asking for more money now that he has given them success?
Posted on 9/26/24 at 12:05 am to Tuscaloosa
carl reed is a fat retard hack. him and a bunch of other mediocre football people in st. louis tried to ride the coat tails of a nice class of youth football players into college coaching jobs and all failed.
now he's a hack analyst
now he's a hack analyst
Posted on 9/26/24 at 12:16 am to theballguy
Everyone in here would be going straight Paulie no matter what they claim.


Posted on 9/26/24 at 6:34 am to OleManDixon
Reading through this thread makes me think that many on here believe that recruits are negotiating directly with schools on their NIL agreements.
The collectives and individuals providing NIL are third parties. They are affiliated with the schools in some cases, but they are separate entities.
The analogy used by the OP is not a good one for NIL. Let’s use this one.
You go to work for a company offering you an agreed upon salary and benefits. One of the most attractive benefits is the family insurance they offer you. It is through a third party, lets just say Blue Cross for this analogy.
You work for your employer for several months and everything is going fine. They provide the agreed upon salary and benefits. Then you have a medical procedure performed that you believe your insurance will cover because somebody you work with, who has nothing to do with insurance or benefits, said it would be. .However after you have the procedure done the insurance company refuses to pay, saying it isn’t covered under the policy that you signed. They show you the contract and sure enough it isn’t covered.
What would you do? The insurance is through your employer. And someone there said it would be covered, but you realize now he is a dumbass who says all kinds of incorrect, wild things. Your real beef is with the third party insurance company.
Would you try to handle it with the insurance company? Or would you quit your job and trash your former employer on social media?
It seems many here would chose the second option.
The collectives and individuals providing NIL are third parties. They are affiliated with the schools in some cases, but they are separate entities.
The analogy used by the OP is not a good one for NIL. Let’s use this one.
You go to work for a company offering you an agreed upon salary and benefits. One of the most attractive benefits is the family insurance they offer you. It is through a third party, lets just say Blue Cross for this analogy.
You work for your employer for several months and everything is going fine. They provide the agreed upon salary and benefits. Then you have a medical procedure performed that you believe your insurance will cover because somebody you work with, who has nothing to do with insurance or benefits, said it would be. .However after you have the procedure done the insurance company refuses to pay, saying it isn’t covered under the policy that you signed. They show you the contract and sure enough it isn’t covered.
What would you do? The insurance is through your employer. And someone there said it would be covered, but you realize now he is a dumbass who says all kinds of incorrect, wild things. Your real beef is with the third party insurance company.
Would you try to handle it with the insurance company? Or would you quit your job and trash your former employer on social media?
It seems many here would chose the second option.
This post was edited on 9/26/24 at 6:37 am
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:31 am to captdalton
How involved was the dumbass in your hiring process? Did his claims figure into your decision to take the job?
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:33 am to Tigertown in ATL
IMO, I think all collectives need to end. Players should be paid directly by the school they committed to. The State of Georgia just passed a law that will allow this and others should follow. It will eliminate a lot of the issues we’re seeing now.
For example, if an athlete tries to leverage his play and leave the school, he should have to pay the school back whatever amount was paid to them (or left in the contract). Plus, take the # of games remaining in the season that he’ll miss and make him ineligible the same # of games next season.
This gives the athlete legal protection that the NIL terms/amount are adhered to according to the contract, and the school protection that the scholarship is not wasted and poaching is limited. It may not be the perfect solution but at least it levels the playing field. No pun intended. Lastly, players… don’t accept anything that’s not in writing.
For example, if an athlete tries to leverage his play and leave the school, he should have to pay the school back whatever amount was paid to them (or left in the contract). Plus, take the # of games remaining in the season that he’ll miss and make him ineligible the same # of games next season.
This gives the athlete legal protection that the NIL terms/amount are adhered to according to the contract, and the school protection that the scholarship is not wasted and poaching is limited. It may not be the perfect solution but at least it levels the playing field. No pun intended. Lastly, players… don’t accept anything that’s not in writing.
This post was edited on 9/26/24 at 11:51 am
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:34 am to theballguy
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Imagine you've been offered a job making $100k per year, free health care, free education with opportunities to earn even more later on.
You take the job and find you have everything except that $100k. How many of you would remain there?
I'd go to the school that offers the same as all of that, plus will actually pay me what they said.
It's pretty simple. Now we don't really know what this kid was promised. But if he is telling the truth, it's a no brainer.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:38 am to theballguy
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A downvote equals a lie you are telling everyone.
It sure is hard to pick a hero with unregulated greed driving the vehicle. Don't you think?
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:45 pm to theballguy
Most likely you take the job
Get $5K up front.
Then start whining you want more money.
Then on Wednesday of your first week of work you walk out and say I am done.
Did I get it right now?
Get $5K up front.
Then start whining you want more money.
Then on Wednesday of your first week of work you walk out and say I am done.
Did I get it right now?
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