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re: Scheduling Tough OOC games

Posted on 12/11/25 at 1:02 pm to
Posted by TexasWranglers
Member since Sep 2024
1593 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 1:02 pm to
Thanks for proving me right!
Posted by The Blue Stuff
Member since Oct 2015
2096 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 1:06 pm to
YOU COULDN'T PLAY RICE. How do not still know the rules. One power 4 ooc opponent. Good lord dude.
Posted by BumKnee
Member since Oct 2021
221 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 1:08 pm to
It worked out for Miami...
Posted by TexasOnTop
Member since Nov 2023
6430 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 1:09 pm to
Woah. I earned a response thread from someone?
Posted by Soonerd78
Member since Sep 2024
2735 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 1:11 pm to
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If Texas had won the OSU game.. Texas would be 10-2 and seeded 8th imo

You just proved this authors posts correct lol … winning makes it worth it .
Posted by TexasWranglers
Member since Sep 2024
1593 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 1:13 pm to
So basically in your analysis when comparing 3 sec teams that are 6-2 where Texas beat BOTH teams you are saying the worse loss would keep Texas out and Vandy over? Don’t agree with that logic but ok
Posted by TexasOnTop
Member since Nov 2023
6430 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 1:13 pm to
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Yet had Texas only beat Florida then you would have been in regardless of the Ohio State outcome.


Texas doesn't have a choice on it's conference schedule. The point of the post is why play a tough OOC game when you can play a gimme win and get in? There is no benefit to playing those games.
Posted by TexasOnTop
Member since Nov 2023
6430 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 1:18 pm to
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Vandy, Chokelahoma and UTrans all went 6-2 in SEC games. Vandy lost to a ranked UTrans and a ranked Bama. Chokelahoma lost to a ranked UTrans and a ranked Ole Piss. UTrans lost to a ranked Georgia and an unranked Florida.

Chokelahoma got the game because they beat Bama and Vandy lost to Bama.

Both of Vandy's and Chokelahoma's losses were to ranked teams. UTrans had a bad loss to an unranked team. Chokelahoma and Vandy would have got the game before UTrans.

The CFP committee was not going to let 6 SEC teams into the playoffs. That would be half of the available spots going to the SEC and they were not going to do that. If they did, Vandy likely would have gotten in before UTrans
.


Just so you're aware, here is the comittees ranking criteria. Nowhere does it say "worst loss" or "record" anywhere.

quote:

PRINCIPLES The committee will select the teams using a process that distinguishes among otherwise comparable teams by considering: Strength of schedule,
Head-to-head competition,
Comparative outcomes of common opponents (without incenting margin of victory),
Other relevant factors such as unavailability of key players and coaches that may have affected a team’s performance during the season or likely will affect its postseason performance.


The CFP Website
Posted by TexasOnTop
Member since Nov 2023
6430 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 1:22 pm to
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It worked out for Miami...


According to the committee this year, you can only use H2H when the two teams are ranked next to each other. So as an AD if you are willing to take that risk and put a 50/50 game on your schedule in hopes that the cards might align miraculously for you and team X to be ranked next to each other for the final playoff spot, go ahead. Personally I'd much rather take the guaranteed win rather than risking an extra loss.
Posted by Dawgs2122
Member since Dec 2024
1869 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 1:39 pm to
Cool. Enjoy the Cheeze it Bowl. If you had beat Florida it could be different.

35-10
Posted by TeeteringBrink
Member since Feb 2007
1269 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 1:53 pm to
Jesus, how long are Texans gonna whine and make this ridiculous assertion that they’d have made playoffs if only they hadn’t scheduled OSU?

If only there were actual data points on the effect of losing to a top 10 team. Like if OSU had lost to Indiana. Or UGA to Bama. Or Oregon to Indiana. Or Ole Miss to UGA. Or aTm to UT. Or Oklahoma to Ole Miss. Those losses really hurt their rankings and knocked them out, right? Oh wait, those teams all lost to a top 10 team but handled the rest of their business. But ignore the facts.

And here’s the really stupid thing about assuming they would have gotten in with a 10-2 record but for OSU on their schedule: a team that LOST TO FLORIDA can’t exactly assume any win.

Can we just stop this tiresome whining?

Posted by Buster83
Somewhere in Texas usually
Member since Aug 2021
5490 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 2:04 pm to
You can post anything you want. I am just trying to explain their logic for leaving UTrans out. I don't even necessarily agree with it. Losing to tOSU did not cost you a playoff bid.

If you had beaten Florida, this topic would not even exist.

You started off the season as No 1. Lost to tOSU and dropped to 7. You were still in the top 10 at that point. Hovered around the Top 10 for a few weeks. Then you lost to Florida. Dropped out of the Top 25. slowly started winning some games. Some were really close games. Crawled back up to 14. Lost bad to UGa but stayed at 14.

Florida is the game that sunk you, not tOSU.

Had you not played tOSU, and still lost to Florida, you probably still would have fallen 15 to 20 spots in the poll.
This post was edited on 12/11/25 at 2:11 pm
Posted by TexasOnTop
Member since Nov 2023
6430 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 2:23 pm to
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Crawled back up to 14. Lost bad to UGa but stayed at 14.


Texas was top 10 before UGA, and dropped to 17 after UGA.

quote:

Florida is the game that sunk you, not tOSU.


Point's moot. If Texas scheduled the Sisters of the Poor instead of tOSU, and then lose to Florida, they're still a top 10 team after that loss. Texas is ranked 8th at 10-2 with losses to Florida and Georgia.

Point being you have nothing to gain from playing these OOC games, it even sounds like Elko agrees with this. At the end of the day, us Texas fans are preaching to the choir as Sark already said tOSU in '26 and Michigan in '27 are not going to change (unless our opponents decide to cancel them).
Posted by Buster83
Somewhere in Texas usually
Member since Aug 2021
5490 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 2:45 pm to
My bad, Texas was No. 10 in week 12

quote:

If Texas scheduled the Sisters of the Poor instead of tOSU, and then lose to Florida, they're still a top 10 team after that loss.
quote:

Texas was top 10 before UGA,



You still would have been lucky to stay in the Top 25. Florida was not ranked. Florida was 1-3 when you played them which included a loss to South Florida and you were coming off of a bye week. It just did not look good.

If y'all want to continue to act like a bunch of pussies and only play cupcakes, go right ahead but get ready for the criticism that will come with it. Besides, should you even be in the playoffs if you can only beat the cupcakes?

This post was edited on 12/11/25 at 2:58 pm
Posted by Rodo
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
1696 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 2:47 pm to
Poor horns...

Rodo
Posted by Floridafan813
Member since Apr 2025
272 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 2:48 pm to
As a gator fan I see no reason to schedule Miami or any other big OOC opponent again. The last few years with Miami and Utah has been comically brutal.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
34383 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 2:54 pm to
quote:

You are correct, but you fail to understand the point.

Why schedule a 50/50 game when you can schedule a 99.9% win and receive the same benefit?




Just ask Indiana if not scheduling a decent OOC opponent had any impact on them? They didn't play a single P4 opponent OOC.

They essentially played a two game season, won both, and are now the #1 seed in the country with - presumably - the easiest road to the title.
Posted by Wildcat23
Member since Jul 2025
98 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 3:06 pm to
And maybe does beat Florida if they had not had to play OSU. You really can’t dispute the argument that it is better for your program to schedule a game you can win 99 percent of the time.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45771 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 3:10 pm to
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I will say it 1000 times as it bodes 100% true. A 10-2 Texas team with the exact same schedule and outcome while swapping a 7 point loss to OSU in September with a W (regardless of how it happened) to a cupcake P4 like 95% of the other country schedules puts that 10-2 Texas team in the playoff.

Prove me wrong.
I don't need to prove you wrong, because you aren't wrong about this season. You're arguing the wrong point, though.

The point that is being argued is whether or not it is worth it to schedule P4 teams for non-conference games vs. only scheduling cupcakes. The answer to this is that it depends on the team and the rest of the season that team has, as well as how other teams are playing that season.

This season, Texas would have benefited from not having the additional loss (or rather, having an additional win), but next season could be different.

What we did see this season, and what we see most seasons, are bubble teams competing for placement, either for a playoff spot, or a bye or home field playoff spot, and that position could be given to one team or another based on their SOS. If you have five 10-2 teams vying for a spot, including a couple of SEC teams, a win over a P4 team may look better than wins over cupcakes only.

You might think having a 9-game SEC schedule should suffice going forward, but some seasons you might wind up playing the bottom half of the league and get passed over by a team who played more of the top half of the league. It's just going to depend on the context, and saying that it's never good to schedule a better OOC game is just silly given the nature of the playoff selection committee.
This post was edited on 12/11/25 at 3:52 pm
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
50892 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 3:14 pm to
quote:

Scheduling tough OOC games doesn't "hurt" you. Loosing those OOC games is what hurt you

I think that’s the point of the argument. If simply being 10-2 or better is going to get you into the playoffs, why schedule tough OOC games where there’s a greater chance of losing?
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