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re: say what you will, but Auburn Basketball did not benefit in any way from this
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:13 am to NYCAuburn
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:13 am to NYCAuburn
quote:1st question: yes
So was Saban responsible for his staff paying a player? For his coach/staff committing a major NCAA violation recently? For his players taking money from agent runners? etc...
Saban has two major NCAA violations at bama under his watch...
asking for a friend...
2nd question:what major violation?
3rd question:At what stage in their careers did these players take this money?
Name the 2 "major" violations and we'll discuss them.
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:15 am to allin2010
This isn't some rogue booster. This is the Assosciate Head Coach. A title he landed in large part due to his recruiting.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:22 am to Peter Buck
quote:correct and Auburn will be sanctioned for his actions.
This is the Assosciate Head Coach.
quote:Even if true, a fact that has nothing to do at all with the current allegations.
A title he landed in large part due to his recruiting.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:25 am to TailbackU
They won't benefit from the sanctions, either. Sorry about your program and your athletic department in general.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:25 am to coachcrisp
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2nd question:what major violation?
Alabama's 6th major NCAA violation and the second one under Saban
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3rd question:At what stage in their careers did these players take this money?
As while playing at Alabama
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Name the 2 "major" violations and we'll discuss them.
There is no need to discuss. I can tell you how it play out. You will pull everything you can to try and differentiate on why saban is not responsible for his staff and players and how Auburn's coaches are. This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 10:26 am
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:26 am to Peter Buck
With Pearl's history and the present reputation that Auburn's having to endure, it would be lunacy to attempt to keep the guy around. Hell, I hope they keep him! That would put their entire athletic program under an even a larger microscope.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:33 am to coachcrisp
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With Pearl's history
He had recruits over to his house and lied about it.
You people act like he bought players or something.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:39 am to MrAUTigers
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He had recruits over to his house and lied about it.
You people act like he bought players or something
His history is he lied to NCAA investigators, His actual infraction is now "legal".
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:56 am to TailbackU
quote:Whatever
Actually Auburn is paying for an internal investigation. They've hired a law firm out of Birmingham to get to the bottom of what actually happened.
Last month your new Prez said he'd already retained Lightfoot, Franklin, White to investigate the Athletic Department for the Corey/Clint Myers softball stuff in the Title IX complaints. They were already knee deep in getting to the bottom of the sex scandal.
So all your Admin. had to do was holla at the legal team and tell them to put the Title IX softball shite on the back burner, run over to the men's BB facility and start billing those hours investigating the AU Basketball Asst Coach/Federal Investigation case. Lightfoot/Franklin are making a mint getting to the bottom of AU Athletics.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:59 am to NYCAuburn
quote:So you're not gonna name these "major" violations?...I smell a rat here..were you exaggerating just a little bit, or what?
There is no need to discuss. I can tell you how it play out. You will pull everything you can to try and differentiate on why saban is not responsible for his staff and players and how Auburn's coaches are.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 11:01 am to coachcrisp
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So you're not gonna name these "major" violations?...I smell a rat here..were you exaggerating just a little bit, or what?
My god man, its a proven fact, not sure why you are dwelling on it. Again, this is going to play out exactly as you quoted.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 11:06 am to NYCAuburn
quote:So explain what the proven facts are...and how can I be dwelling on it when YOU brought it up? Finally,what the hell did I "quote"?
My god man, its a proven fact, not sure why you are dwelling on it. Again, this is going to play out exactly as you quoted.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 11:25 am to MrAUTigers
quote:Dude, logic would indicate that if the AU coach was paying players to leave Auburn, then it wouldn't be out of his character to induce them with some little something to come to Auburn.
I have stated from post #1, that what Auburn was doing has nothing to do with getting a competitive advantage. It's actually the opposite. We were paying our two best players to leave.
Bruce was a decent coach prior to his stint in NCAA purgatory, Auburn is a fine place with top shelf facilities, etc.....But Auburn wasn't pulling this kind of talent before the PTB at Auburn pushed Chuck on Bruce and made him hire him on his staff.
These are your top 2 players mixed in this federal mess. The NCAA will investigate the back end of it and get to the bottom of the recruitment of those top players. It's not going to be pleasant around the Plains for a while.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 11:28 am to Peter Buck
Posted on 9/27/17 at 11:30 am to Peter Buck
quote:I doubt Auburn will want go take Bruce into battle in an NCAA investigation. He bold faced lied to them about a backyard BBQ ~ doubtful he'd be able to tell the truth about something this massive.
Wishful Auburn fans are making an assumption that the coach whose scam required NBA talent level players on his roster, did not do anything improper until they were on the roster. Even though, in this very case, there appears to be evidence that the scam and the shoe company $ was being used to get the players to choose a certain school.
Also, it is naive to think that a head coach,who already has baggage, is going to end up unscathed when his top assistant was paying at least two of his players.
Stil, this is a great exercise in observing confirmation bias in action...
This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 11:32 am
Posted on 9/27/17 at 12:23 pm to coachcrisp
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So explain what the proven facts are...and how can I be dwelling on it when YOU brought it up? Finally,what the hell did I "quote"?
Are you senile? serious question because now you are just going in circles.
This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 9/27/17 at 12:25 pm to RT1941
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Bruce was a decent coach prior to his stint in NCAA purgatory, Auburn is a fine place with top shelf facilities, etc.....But Auburn wasn't pulling this kind of talent before the PTB at Auburn pushed Chuck on Bruce and made him hire him on his staff.
haha what the frick
Bruce is the draw, he was the biggest hire in AU basketball history, and it was big time CBB news when he returned to the game
Person is a good recruiter, and perhaps it comes out he paid recruits, but your causation theory is absolutely batshit insane
Also, one of the players is a double Auburn legacy who came to Auburn during one of the most optimistic periods in Auburn basketball history. It's not exactly an "Ole Miss suddenly getting 5 star talent with a high school coach" situation.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 12:25 pm to RT1941
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Dude, logic would indicate that if the AU coach was paying players to leave Auburn, then it wouldn't be out of his character to induce them with some little something to come to Auburn.
You, like other people, are trying to connect dots that aren't there. The FEDS just busted Louisville for buying a player. Did the FEDS bust Auburn for buying a player?
Posted on 9/27/17 at 12:26 pm to RT1941
quote:Probably depends on what they turn up in their internal investigation. If the only evidence of wrong doing is what is in the indictment, I don't think it will be a big problem for Bruce. However, if there were other issues that will now be found because this investigation shines a light on the program, then all bets are off.
I doubt Auburn will want go take Bruce into battle in an NCAA investigation.
This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 9/27/17 at 12:26 pm to RT1941
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doubtful he'd be able to tell the truth about something this massive.
You're usually one of the most reasonable Bama fans on here, but you've lost the plot dude
Auburn doesn't want to go in front of the NCAA with Pearl, who the NCAA dislikes for lying to them (about a ridiculously minor incident) - Fair
"there's no way Pearl could tell the truth on this!" - bizarre
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