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re: say what you will, but Auburn Basketball did not benefit in any way from this

Posted on 9/27/17 at 12:28 pm to
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 12:28 pm to
This is great...
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28294 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 12:29 pm to
It's ATPB II.

Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26966 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 12:29 pm to
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We were paying our two best players to leave.


No. You weren't paying them to leave. You were paying your two best players to use certain representation when they did leave. They're all temporary. Every one of them. They all leave. The best ones leave sooner, and as you said, these were your two best ones.

I know Auburn fans are doing their best to spin this as something that doesn't help Auburn, but the reality is that top recruits would clearly be able to see that if they go to Auburn, the coaching staff could hook them and their families up with cash down the road if they are pro prospects.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79249 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 12:29 pm to
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This is great...



Here is your attention.

You constantly make vague, stupid posts while other people are actually discussing the facts at issue. I assume you do this because you're incapable of engaging in substantive discussion, but still want us to know you're here.

Might I suggest facebook?
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28294 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 12:30 pm to
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I know Auburn fans are doing their best to spin this as something that doesn't help Auburn, but the reality is that top recruits would clearly be able to see that if they go to Auburn, the coaching staff could hook them and their families up with cash down the road if they are pro prospects.


So you think Person was advertising this?

That is your argument.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79249 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 12:31 pm to
I agree that the "paying them to leave" thing is a spin

It's premised on the idea that the "paying" aspect is very different from "paying" in most NCAA/cheating contexts. But it's more accurate to just identify that so far, payments were not funded by AU people for the benefit of AU, but rather by a third party for the benefit of the third party.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55322 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 12:32 pm to
Because recruits and their families were getting financial benefit as a direct result of a relationship with an Auburn coach and as a direct result of a commitment to play basketball for Auburn

It doesn't matter that the Auburn coach got the money from Adidas or the tooth fairy, it was the Auburn coach giving the money to the recruits and families.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26966 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 12:33 pm to
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So you think Person was advertising this?


Have you been paying attention at all? This thing is nationwide. You think he actually has to "advertise"? You think the word doesn't get around?
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28294 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 12:33 pm to
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It doesn't matter that the Auburn coach got the money from Adidas or the tooth fairy, it was the Auburn coach giving the money to the recruits and families.



HE WAS NOT GIVING MONEY TO RECRUITS.

You people really need to read up on what this is about before you start talking about something you obviously know nothing about.
This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 12:36 pm
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79249 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 12:35 pm to
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Because recruits and their families were getting financial benefit as a direct result of a relationship with an Auburn coach and as a direct result of a commitment to play basketball for Auburn



Your connection between the commitment and the benefit is really tenuous and likely won't factor in to action by the NCAA without more.

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It doesn't matter that the Auburn coach got the money from Adidas or the tooth fairy, it was the Auburn coach giving the money to the recruits and families.



It won't effect eligibility, but of course it matters.
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 12:37 pm to
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No. You weren't paying them to leave.
People keep saying this because Person was quoted as telling the mom of one of the players he wanted him to leave for the NBA after the season.

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You were paying your two best players to use certain representation when they did leave.
A money manager was paying our assistant coach to steer players to him and the assistant funneled some of that money to players families.

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the reality is that top recruits would clearly be able to see that if they go to Auburn, the coaching staff could hook them and their families up with cash down the road if they are pro prospects.
There is a chance Person used this as a recruiting ploy, but given the small amount of money that he funneled to the parents, I doubt that is the way this played out. The indictment really makes it seem like Person was simply being an opportunistic a-hole to line his own pockets.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26966 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 12:38 pm to
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It won't effect eligibility, but of course it matters.


Are you saying that the two players who took cash are not in danger of losing their eligibility?
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 12:38 pm to
It is really easy to tell the people who haven't read the allegations and are just jumping to assumptions based on seeing some headlines.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55322 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 12:42 pm to
The FBI documents say very clearly that Adidas gave the money to the Auburn coach in the Auburn coach gave the money to the recruit and family
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 12:42 pm to
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The FBI documents say very clearly that Adidas gave the money to the Auburn coach in the Auburn coach gave the money to the recruit and family
lol you don't have a clue. It says nothing close to that.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28294 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 12:43 pm to
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The FBI documents say very clearly that Adidas gave the money to the Auburn coach in the Auburn coach gave the money to the recruit and family



Like I said above.......you are clueless. Read up on what's going on and then come back when you have some background on the story.


ETA pssstttt we are an UA school. There is your first clue.
This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 12:44 pm
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 12:44 pm to
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Here is your attention. You constantly make vague, stupid posts while other people are actually discussing the facts at issue. I assume you do this because you're incapable of engaging in substantive discussion, but still want us to know you're here. Might I suggest facebook?


No, no... I'm just enjoying the countyness... please continue.
Posted by BamalaAnderson
Member since Nov 2012
272 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 12:45 pm to
No Purifoy, no Wiley
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55322 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 12:46 pm to
"Person claims to have given 18,500 of the money he received to the recruits and families "


Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28294 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 12:47 pm to
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"Person claims to have given 18,500 of the money he received to the recruits and families "


link please
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