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re: Sagarin SOS and wins vs Top 10 and Top 30

Posted on 12/9/25 at 1:31 pm to
Posted by theballguy
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/9/25 at 1:31 pm to
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Having Penn State at 14 invalidates the whole thing, imo.



True. I only said what I did to make light of it. Which was ridiculous.
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
18955 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 1:32 pm to
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I can’t figure out why anyone still views this persons rankings as valid


Was used in the BCS for years.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 12/9/25 at 1:32 pm to
Ohio State and Indiana average is nearly double that of the SEC while Texas Tech actual rank is higher than the 4 SEC teams combined….. and it has been that way for the entire history of CFB.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 12/9/25 at 1:34 pm to
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The Committee is a joke. Even Texas A&M who was dogged as playing the weaker teams in the SEC still has a 16th rank. This just means that the Committee is not valuing the SEC top to bottom as it should. This should be concerning to everyone on this board.


It is concerning and only a dishonest person would say it isn’t that big a difference.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
25881 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 1:35 pm to
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Was used in the BCS for years


Was no more valid then than now. If your ratings tell you PSUnis the 14th best team, it’s time to adjust your formula.
Posted by Aguga
Member since Aug 2021
3702 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 1:39 pm to
so stupid
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20416 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 1:40 pm to
Well if you look at this, 2 of their top 10 teams don’t have a winning record vs the top 30.

Notre Dame and Miami, who won the game when played?

Vandy and Oklahoma is a good comparison. Oklahoma is better against the top 30 and has better wins.

Vandy actually stacks up better against the top 30 and has a better SOS than either ND or Miami. Looks like that should have been the real conversation over the last spot.
Posted by TTOWN RONMON
Member since Oct 2023
1515 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 1:42 pm to
THINK, why is 5-7 Auburn in there? Because they play good teams tight.

Why is a 2 loss Notre Dame so high? Because they are running up the scores on "BAD TEAMS" so them only beating USC matters not, this computer loses cred by not limiting the scoring affect on its algorithm.

Posted by Tex117
Member since Oct 2025
495 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 1:44 pm to
Yup. The SEC needs to be taking a much stronger position against this kind of shite.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
24994 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 1:45 pm to
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This just means that the Committee is not valuing the SEC top to bottom as it should. This should be concerning to everyone on this board.



This is Sagarin's rankings of metrics

The SEC has 5 teams in the playoffs, more than the next conference by 2. How does that not value the SEC?
Posted by Tex117
Member since Oct 2025
495 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 1:45 pm to
This is the only answer. And how silly is it?

Texas v Baylor is so dumb, but, if it gets a team into the playoffs (ala, Tech), then its the smartest move.

Posted by Tex117
Member since Oct 2025
495 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 6:20 pm to
Because clearly strength of schedule is not as important (see, Tech, Oregon v. Texas A&M, Ole Miss).
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
4003 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 6:31 pm to
The G5 AQ status need to be amended.
JMU played 1 P5 team and lost by 14.

ND mad at Alabama, they should be mad at the stupid rules of picking the teams.

Tulane and JMU are taking legitimate spots.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39473 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 7:40 pm to
I didn’t realize how poorly rated Tulane has been, but that loss to ole miss was terrible. Absurd they are in.
Posted by Tex117
Member since Oct 2025
495 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 7:44 pm to
Absolutely agree.
Posted by Raoul_Duke
Denton, TX
Member since Nov 2012
706 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 8:05 pm to
bullshite that A&M is behind Tech, Oregon and Ole Miss.

A&M with better SoS, better record vs top 10, better record vs top 30 than all of them

Burn the CFP to the ground. Also why is Georgia behind ohio state? What a joke. Time for everyone to schedule as easy as possible since strength of schedule doesn’t matter
This post was edited on 12/9/25 at 8:08 pm
Posted by Kashmir
Member since Dec 2014
9634 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 8:59 pm to
“L”3u 2-5 against Top 30.
Posted by TeeteringBrink
Member since Feb 2007
1256 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 9:40 pm to
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Having Penn State at 14 invalidates the whole thing, imo.

Exactly. A 6-6 Penn State is ranked 14th, only fractions of a point behind 10-2 OK. Where Penn beat nobody and OK beat Bama, Michigan, and Mizzou. And OK’s only 2 losses were to top 12 teams and Penn’s 6 losses included one to 3-9 UCLA.

Then, with Penn ranked outlandishly high, teams like Oregon and other BiG10 schools get credit for beating a top 15 team. Ridiculous.
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