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re: Saban’s recruiting pitch
Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:41 pm to MacMan10
Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:41 pm to MacMan10
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Why are the Yankees better than the Orioles? Why are the Lakers better than the Clippers? Why are the Patriots better than the Jets? They just are and everyone knows it.
You should have said :
Yankees > Mets
Cubs > white Sox
Lakers > Clippers
Giants > Jets
Cowboys > Texans
Nets > knicks
Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:41 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Four Bammers now, all have come up empty.
Damnit, they know Alabama is better, just can't actually come up with a reason as to why or how.
Homerism at its finest.
Ok why do is Oklahoma and tOSU elite jobs and not LSU? Why didn't LSU win much prior to Saban?
LSU produces more talent regularly and Also the only P5 in state.
What the difference in your argument about Alabama and them vs LSU lack of consistency despite clear advantages over all 3 with in state recruitment?
Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:42 pm to MacMan10
I would categorize an elite program as someone who's always within striking distance of a title, what Bama has done under Bryant and Saban though was a whole other level.
Dabo has had similar success but dominates a weak conference every year and really may only have one title if that pick play was called.
Dabo has had similar success but dominates a weak conference every year and really may only have one title if that pick play was called.
Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:45 pm to SmokeTide
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Ok why do is Oklahoma and tOSU elite jobs and not LSU?
I would say LSU is an elite job now.
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Why didn't LSU win much prior to Saban?
Facilities and support wasn't there.
Most Louisiana talent was going out of state, Saban was the first LSU coach to really buckle down and recruit Louisiana and still does very well.
Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:47 pm to turnpiketiger
True that. Best examples.
Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:47 pm to SidewalkTiger
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I would say LSU is an elite job now.
Why?... other than in state recruitment as a reason?
Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:49 pm to SmokeTide
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Why?... other than in state recruitment as a reason?
Facilities are on par with other elite teams
LSU will pay to win
Fanbase support
You can win titles there
Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:51 pm to SidewalkTiger
It’s very close. I’d say the talent is there but just not the prestige/brand like an OSU, Alabama, Texas.
New money for sure. But top 10 no doubt.
New money for sure. But top 10 no doubt.
Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:53 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Facilities are on par with other elite teams
LSU will pay to win
Fanbase support
You can win titles there
Every reason applies to Alabama yet you say Bama historical success hinges on 2 Goat coaches? I'm confused here....
Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:53 pm to MacMan10
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It’s very close. I’d say the talent is there but just not the prestige/brand like an OSU, Alabama, Texas.
I would say its probably easier to win a national title at LSU than Texas or Oklahoma just from a practical standpoint but I also could see a coach passing up LSU to go to an Ohio State or Texas or Oklahoma.
Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:54 pm to SmokeTide
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Every reason applies to Alabama yet you say Bama historical success hinges on 2 Goat coaches? I'm confused here....
I'm saying Alabama is only head and shoulders above every other program because of those two guys, otherwise you're just another elite program.
Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:55 pm to MacMan10
Ranking (shot in the dark):
Alabama
OSU
Texas
Georgia
Oklahoma
Norte Dame
USC
LSU
Florida
Michigan
Auburn
Oregon
Current ranking brand, recruiting prowess, facilities, health of program, etc
Alabama
OSU
Texas
Georgia
Oklahoma
Norte Dame
USC
LSU
Florida
Michigan
Auburn
Oregon
Current ranking brand, recruiting prowess, facilities, health of program, etc
This post was edited on 2/1/21 at 7:57 pm
Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:57 pm to PowahCajun
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I've said this all along. Satan's time in the NFL was a complete disaster, he was hated by the players, and the strategies he used in college were totally ineffective in the NFL.
With the talent gap the gumps typically have they should win a title every year, yet they don't.
I can't stand Satan or the Gumps and think he is highly overrated as a coach, when the talent is even close to equal. The 2019 LSU team would have whooped any Alabama team they could have ever assembled in the history of that football team.
Totally agree!
Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:59 pm to MacMan10
USC is dead in the water
Otherwise a decent ranking
Otherwise a decent ranking
Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:59 pm to SidewalkTiger
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I'm saying Alabama is only head and shoulders above every other program because of those two guys, otherwise you're just another elite program.
This is like when a RB has a 50 yard run and a 30 yard run. Then a guy says “Well if you tAke AwAY tHoSe 2 Long Runs he ONly has 47 YaRds
Posted on 2/1/21 at 8:00 pm to SidewalkTiger
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I'm saying Alabama is only head and shoulders above every other program because of those two guys, otherwise you're just another elite program.
If you're making that point take away each program two best coaches to make a fair argument. Bama is Top 2/3 at worst...some teams are lucky Bama is one of them.
It's a reason why there are historical bluebloods. Those teams more often than not bring in great coaches and give them what they need to succeed.
Posted on 2/1/21 at 8:00 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Alabama itself isn't head and shoulders better than any other elite football program in the country. They simply had Bryant and Saban
Geez man... do you know what the Rose Bowl meant to CFB long before Coach Bryant heard mama calling? Do you know what school singlehandedly created Southern football? Do you know how many Rose Bowls Alabama played in before the PAC8-Big10 agreement?
Hint... it wasn’t LSU in those Rose Bowls... a school who few outside of the South ever heard of until lately. 1908? You have to be shiteing us... that dog refused to hunt when he was thrown nose first in a quail bush because of lots of reasons including rampant professionalism.
You argument is ridiculous upon inspection. Can’t you see how what a STUPID statement this would be?... “if Saban didn’t coach at LSU the school would have been perpetually 3rd or 4th place in SEC West?” Answer - but he did!!! No shite?
....Oh...wait...3rd-4th average finish in SECw... that’s where LSU has averaged finishing the last 10-15 years.
When Charlie Mac retired he famously noted how insular and delusional LSU fans were. Nothing much has changed in 40 years. Damn you clueless young people who have never been north of I-10 are full of yourself. You need to travel a bit and learn about the world...
Posted on 2/1/21 at 8:03 pm to Jacknola
Dementia is such a terrible thing tbh
Posted on 2/1/21 at 8:04 pm to Jacknola
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You argument is ridiculous upon inspection.
So tell me what Alabama has that no other elite school does, Jackass.
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Damn you clueless young people who have never been north of I-10 are full of yourself. You need to travel a bit and learn about the world...
You can't even spell correctly and you're attempting to lecture people
Posted on 2/1/21 at 8:06 pm to SidewalkTiger
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You argument is ridiculous upon inspection.
So tell me what Alabama has that no other elite school does, Jackass.
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Win numerous championships in different eras?
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