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Posted on 5/19/22 at 4:25 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 5/19/22 at 4:25 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Man quit it!! You know good and dam well $$$ is the reason these kids are there. By NIL or other means.
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 4:26 pm to SummerOfGeorge
They went to Alabama for both. I’m not even attempting to say they only came for money, because that’s not true. They did want to play for a national title potential program, but to think money wasn’t a UUGE factor is ludicrous.
Boutte almost went and the number one factor was money. We had to essentially re-negotiate him twice. We couldn’t re-negotiate Ricks.
Boutte almost went and the number one factor was money. We had to essentially re-negotiate him twice. We couldn’t re-negotiate Ricks.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 4:27 pm to Sonofthetruth
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Man quit it!! You know good and dam well $$$ is the reason these kids are there. By NIL or other means.
I really don't think that every kids decision is based on how much money he can get in a short term period compared to what he thinks will help him over his career long term, no.
And I don't say that to say we wouldn't give a kid a bunch of NIL money to come here, I just think it's pretty obvious why those 2 players (Burton and Gibbs, and Harrell from Louisville for that matter) would want to transfer to Alabama. And it does involve money, but it's not some sponsor deal for 12 months, it's career earnings and signing bonuses in their professional life.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 4:28 pm to lsupride87
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Saban and Alabama cheat. So does LSU
The only thing embarrassing over the past 24 hours was Saban claiming he is above it all. It’s a petty look for anyone with respect
But he apologized today and admitted fault. Move on
Saban knows that Bama's REC can compete with any underground under the table booster program, but he knows that they are not wealthy enough to go head to head against the rich programs. The tables have shifted.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 4:28 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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They did want to play for a national title potential program, but to think money wasn’t a UUGE factor is ludicrous.
Oh I think money mattered a lot. I just think that the money they were looking at wasn't in 2022 it was in 2023 based on what they did in 2022 (and in Gibbs case, the ability to do it and keep his body in good shape due to less usage).
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Boutte almost went and the number one factor was money
Doesn't shock me at all - like I said, I'm not saying we wouldn't give someone a ton of money. I just don't think making a bunch of sponsor money in 2022 was the reason for those 2 that are being discussed.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 4:29 pm to Krampus
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I guess that's why the Bammers are having such a hard time with it.
Nope. I have no problem with what he said.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 4:29 pm to Irons Puppet
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Saban knows that Bama's REC can compete with any underground under the table booster program, but he knows that they are not wealthy enough to go head to head against the rich programs. The tables have shifted.
Deep down, even alabama fans know this is the truth.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 4:30 pm to Stidham8
If recruiting turns into NFL Free Agency and there is a set price point for every kid based on their ability/position and it's the main reason for kids choosing schools then we will certainly not be in a prime position to win those battles at an elite level consistently.
No doubt. Just facts.
No doubt. Just facts.
This post was edited on 5/19/22 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 5/19/22 at 4:31 pm to Stidham8
Nobody can compete with A&M with NIL. They have by far the largest endowment of any school that cares about athletics
But don’t be some pussy fan or coach that whines about how “THEY CHEAT WE DONT” just because they can do it better
I’m all for Saban or anyone else wanting to change the rules, I’m for it too. But Saban trying to act above the fray while doing so was pathetic
But don’t be some pussy fan or coach that whines about how “THEY CHEAT WE DONT” just because they can do it better
I’m all for Saban or anyone else wanting to change the rules, I’m for it too. But Saban trying to act above the fray while doing so was pathetic
This post was edited on 5/19/22 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 5/19/22 at 4:31 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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He never said Saban was operating at some level above and beyond everybody else, he insinuated he didn't have glass windows because he was cheating too.
You might want to listen to what Jimbo said again. He said that is why Saban has won like he has
Posted on 5/19/22 at 4:31 pm to deeprig9
Only to mouth breathing retards like yourself.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 4:32 pm to tigerskin
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You might want to listen to what Jimbo said again. He said that is why Saban has won like he has
He said he won like he has because of talent advantages.
An argument that Nick Saban is only a good recruiter because of money and cheating is idiotic, so if that was Jimbo's stance then he was blind with rage and saying things that even he knows aren't legitimate.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 4:34 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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An argument that Nick Saban is a good recruiter and not because of money and cheating is idiotic
FIFY
There are not 5 schools in the country that have spent as much money in the past as Saban. Therefore huge talent advantage over rest of country
This post was edited on 5/19/22 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 5/19/22 at 4:34 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I don’t think it will ever get to that point. When these kids are still losing games and aren’t in a position to make real money in the NFL due to a lack of development, the market will correct and it won’t matter what A&M offers.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 4:34 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Saban went out like a bitch.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 4:35 pm to 3down10
Well, I guess you're gonna have to get another schtick now that "A&M is going down hard" is not going to play anymore.
Have fun.
Have fun.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 4:35 pm to SummerOfGeorge
George is right as usual. I almost wonder if he forgot it was being tapped or something.
Hell must have frozen over, but I completely agree with Nick on this, it’s not sustainable.
Feldman, a big time recruiting analyst just stated that almost all the big time recruits rn have agents that are flying them all over the place to get their NIL deal offers from big schools to sign. He specifically said planes are flying in and out of USC, 0regon, Ohio State daily and that everyone is saying NIL stands for Nothing Illegal now
Hell must have frozen over, but I completely agree with Nick on this, it’s not sustainable.
Feldman, a big time recruiting analyst just stated that almost all the big time recruits rn have agents that are flying them all over the place to get their NIL deal offers from big schools to sign. He specifically said planes are flying in and out of USC, 0regon, Ohio State daily and that everyone is saying NIL stands for Nothing Illegal now
Posted on 5/19/22 at 4:37 pm to tigerskin
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tigerskin
Nick Saban is really just an average to below average talent evaluator and recruiter, but he's become the best recruiter in the history of the sport over a 2 decade career in the shark infested waters of America's most vicious conference without ANYBODY being able to get the goods to throw him in jail for it.
Wow, if he isn't a great recruiter he must be the greatest mob boss of all time, because that just sounds nearly impossible.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 4:38 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Nope, good talent evaluator that then paid the highest price to get those players. Jimbo just verified what was already known
This post was edited on 5/19/22 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 5/19/22 at 4:39 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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If recruiting turns into NFL Free Agency and there is a set price point for every kid based on their ability/position and it's the main reason for kids choosing schools then we will certainly not be in a prime position to win those battles at an elite level consistently.
No doubt. Just facts.
It is beyond Free Agency. It has become recruiting tampering and the next step will be buying current players off other teams. Bama might get talent in the future, but it might become a proven ground for the richer programs. NIL can work, but the transfer rule complicates it more. The only way to stop it is to signed recruits lock down scholarships for 4 years, even if they go pro or transfer. That will prevent culling, something Saban has abused.
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