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Posted on 5/19/22 at 5:50 pm to Krampus
Posted on 5/19/22 at 5:50 pm to Krampus
I'm still amazed how many people don't understand that buying recruits, even with NIL, is illegal. Not only with the NCAA either. It's literally a felony in Texas.
If it wasn't illegal, Jimbo wouldn't be calling special press conferences to deny it.
Ultimately, there's no question imo that A&M broke the rules in a historic way to land this class. That's based on a) common sense based on the fact pattern, b) the fact that multiple coaches have publicly pointed the finger (something I've never seen once before), c) rumblings from all over the high school and college football world, and d) Jimbo is far from a squeaky clean figure.
At the same time, Saban pretending to be clean is also laughable. Kirby Smart must be getting a kick out of this too.
If it wasn't illegal, Jimbo wouldn't be calling special press conferences to deny it.
Ultimately, there's no question imo that A&M broke the rules in a historic way to land this class. That's based on a) common sense based on the fact pattern, b) the fact that multiple coaches have publicly pointed the finger (something I've never seen once before), c) rumblings from all over the high school and college football world, and d) Jimbo is far from a squeaky clean figure.
At the same time, Saban pretending to be clean is also laughable. Kirby Smart must be getting a kick out of this too.
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 5:51 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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They came to play at Alabama for 1 season, have big years like those before them have and reap those benefits in the NFL Draft in 2023.
It’s amazing how many people in this thread don’t understand this.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 5:53 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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People want to understand why people are transferring schools and getting money to do it."
I RICKS i could understand this !
Posted on 5/19/22 at 5:56 pm to 3down10
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Everyone still knows the truth.
I'm behind the curve man. Exactly what is the truth?
Posted on 5/19/22 at 6:01 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Somebody sounds like they are afraid other coaches have all the goods on his ways. Too bad Emmert is there to nail A&M and change the rules for Saban.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 6:06 pm to Farmer1906
Texas A&M and Auburn have a lot in common. They celebrate wins over Alabama for decades.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 6:08 pm to Irons Puppet
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Not triggered. I think Saban is the only person that can save College Football at this point. But it doesn't take away the fact his stance is hypocritical. If he though the Bama Booster Program could keep up, he wouldn't say a word.
Alabama just pulled in the #2 recruiting class with a higher average than Texas A&M. And did it coming off a record class the previous year, which typically makes it harder due to the roster.
If you add in Alabama with NIL, it's not going to be pretty for others. As SoG has been pointing out with the transfer, that NFL money is many more millions than NIL is going to offer.
You guys want to think about Texas A&M oil money, but for some reason don't seem to recognize that Alabama is a blue blood national brand, so players will be and are getting deals from national companies. On top of this, with Saban's track record with the NFL, players could be looking at making millions more than any NIL deals in the future with an NFL career.
But I guess people will never learn. Every time people say Saban did this or that because he couldn't handle it, it ends up being bad for everyone else.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 6:14 pm to Othello
quote:Cry some more. Your coach stuck his foot in his mouth and can't get it out.
Texas A&M and Auburn have a lot in common. They celebrate wins over Alabama for decades.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 6:18 pm to 3down10
quote:Nice speech to make yourself feel better but Saban nor Bama can buy the amount of players he's had with everyone else bidding too. He couldn't even get the top player away from Jacksonville state and keep up with A&M.
But I guess people will never learn. Every time people say Saban did this or that because he couldn't handle it, it ends up being bad for everyone else.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 6:23 pm to 3down10
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Alabama just pulled in the #2 recruiting class with a higher average than Texas A&M. And did it coming off a record class the previous year, which typically makes it harder due to the roster.
If you add in Alabama with NIL, it's not going to be pretty for others. As SoG has been pointing out with the transfer, that NFL money is many more millions than NIL is going to offer.
Saban has always been able to recruit. But he has had a system and Jimbo mentioned it today. The NIL money today pays more than the Saban System and Saban knows that Bama NIL will be able to keep up.
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You guys want to think about Texas A&M oil money, but for some reason don't seem to recognize that Alabama is a blue blood national brand, so players will be and are getting deals from national companies. On top of this, with Saban's track record with the NFL, players could be looking at making millions more than any NIL deals in the future with an NFL career.
NIL money is not advertising money and only a small number will reap the benefits of it from an advertising campaign.
Saban will not be able to shite the money able to keep up with the A&Ms of the world. Neither can the REC.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 6:29 pm to Rabern57
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Nice speech to make yourself feel better but Saban nor Bama can buy the amount of players he's had with everyone else bidding too. He couldn't even get the top player away from Jacksonville state and keep up with A&M.
Are you under the impression that Saban got all the kids before or something?
Posted on 5/19/22 at 6:30 pm to Irons Puppet
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NIL money is not advertising money and only a small number will reap the benefits of it from an advertising campaign.
Saban will not be able to shite the money able to keep up with the A&Ms of the world. Neither can the REC.
I can see why an Auburn fan would think the only value in coming to a school is by paying, but the reality is there are other factors.
In the end, it's not what you have, it's what you spend and what you spend it on.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 6:35 pm to tigahdor
quote:Wrong
And Texas' endowment is double A&M's.
Endowment rankings
LINK
1 Harvard University
2 Yale University
3 The University of Texas System Office
4 Stanford University
5 Princeton University
6 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
7 University of Pennsylvania
8Texas A & M University–College Station
Texas isn’t even in the top 20. Don’t open your mouth and prove to the world you are a fool
quote:Proving to be a fool again. A high endowment means you have rich supporters. A&Ms rich supporters care about football
Endowment doesn't matter, none of the money comes from the endowment
Do the math
This post was edited on 5/19/22 at 6:45 pm
Posted on 5/19/22 at 6:40 pm to 3down10
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I can see why an Auburn fan would think the only value in coming to a school is by paying, but the reality is there are other factors.
In the end, it's not what you have, it's what you spend and what you spend it on.
Amazed that some Bama fans think that an 18 year old and his family doesn't see the benefits of getting big money out of HS, instead of the possibility of getting drafted in three years. A lot of injury risk in those three years. Big NIL $$ for someone like Tua would have taken the sting out of his injury. Still think he would have been a high draft pick regardless where he signed.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 6:44 pm to Irons Puppet
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Amazed that some Bama fans think that an 18 year old and his family doesn't see the benefits of getting big money out of HS, instead of the possibility of getting drafted in three years. A lot of injury risk in those three years. Big NIL $$ for someone like Tua would have taken the sting out of his injury. Still think he would have been a high draft pick regardless where he signed.
If things were to continue and no limits are put into place, kids of high school will not get recruited by top schools very often. Instead, they'll wait and grab kids off the transfer portal who are already developed and ready to play.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 7:10 pm to 3down10
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If things were to continue and no limits are put into place, kids of high school will not get recruited by top schools very often. Instead, they'll wait and grab kids off the transfer portal who are already developed and ready to play.
There will be a fear of loyalty if programs do not recruit HS players and try to recruit them as SO and Jr. The NIL money will dictate College Sports from here on out.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 7:24 pm to Irons Puppet
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bullshite, it is all about how it affects Nick. Just like every other rule he tried to change. He just knows that Bama can not keep up with the richer programs so he is trying to change the rules for him. Just this time the other programs can benefit.
Whatever you say, pal. Enjoy your obsession, and posting like a member of a cult while accusing others being members of a cult.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 7:24 pm to 3down10
quote:He got a majority of the 5*s. He didn't last year and it showed.
Are you under the impression that Saban got all the kids before or something?
Posted on 5/19/22 at 7:27 pm to Rabern57
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He got a majority of the 5*s. He didn't last year and it showed.
He had the highest average star rating per player ever recorded. Try again.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:40 pm to tigahdor
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I'm still amazed how many people don't understand that buying recruits, even with NIL, is illegal. Not only with the NCAA either. It's literally a felony in Texas.
Im pretty sure you dont know the texas law (currently).
SB 1385 allows athletes both compensation and professional representation in intercollegiate athletics.
It isnt illegal. LOL
It isnt a felony. LOL
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